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Good luck, Kalessin! You're doing a good thing.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:BLUF: let me try this intro posting thing to not evoke unabashed shitlordism Never write like this again. Best of luck to you with everything.
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Aug 31, 2019 12:21
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:BLUF: let me try this intro posting thing to not evoke unabashed shitlordism We're here for you and have all been dicked over by the Navy so we understand where you're coming from. The big thing is - Although we were or are Navy, it doesn't define us. It doesn't define you as a person either. I'm still in but I work to live. I don't live Navy. I think that's the big clash. You're probably being sarcastic formatting your post like an email to an N2 or something but here we're just people. Talk to us like people. We'll talk to you like people. Unless it's making fun of the Navy then jargon away! The nobles stuff isn't a dig at your personal situation. It's a dig at Navy culture.
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Aug 31, 2019 12:53
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My weed is by prescription. Most states have some sort of medical pot in 2019 and PTSD is almost universally recognized as a qualifying condition.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:22
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Laranzu posted:We're here for you and have all been dicked over by the Navy so we understand where you're coming from. This but like for real, talk to us like we're people. It took me like 5 times reading your poo poo to get the wholesome message lying underneath. E: what are your pronouns so I dont gently caress it up
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Aug 31, 2019 13:34
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My reservist cheddar brain almost couldn’t.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:36
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Laranzu posted:You're probably being sarcastic formatting your post like an email to an N2 Also I was having fun mocking some of the emails I got from tryhards on my carrier tour. The joy of being bombarded by hundreds of messages daily from deskpilots who don’t understand that their admin taskers aren’t as important as literally putting out fires. 
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Aug 31, 2019 16:08
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:... helps further ACLU lawsuits for wrongful termination and breach of contract.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:Yeah, sarcasm is admittedly one of my favorite coping mechanisms. Wow. gently caress em lol.
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Aug 31, 2019 21:32
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http://broadside.navytimes.com/2019/09/03/broadside-week-of-sep-2-2019/ [MST3K] Huge slam on 1830s out of nowhere [/MST3K]
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Sep 3, 2019 23:08
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Some some random white dude enlisted walking through the yards with a beard and type 3 boonie hat. So I ordered a boonie. This thing rocks. Basically no way my unit will approve it but whatevs it was cheap.
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Sep 4, 2019 00:24
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DustyNuts posted:10 Mazel tov
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LingcodKilla posted:Some some random white dude enlisted walking through the yards with a beard and type 3 boonie hat. I bought one for SERE and wear it when I go camping. They're great.
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Sep 4, 2019 03:25
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LingcodKilla posted:Some some random white dude enlisted walking through the yards with a beard and type 3 boonie hat. A lost EOD/Diver? There was always one diver who would walk around the shipyard wearing PTUs with boots and a cowboy hat.
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:A lost EOD/Diver? I have no idea. I wanted to stop and talk to him about it because i was genuinely curious but I had places to be. There’s also a little person serving on the Nimitz I was a little curious about but it’s just rude to ask about waivers.
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Sep 4, 2019 18:10
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https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/09/03/this-branch-takes-the-cake-as-the-us-militarys-fattest/ Navy weighs in a 22% obesity rate. Lol. Ive been noticing for a bit now that sailors round the PNW have been looking a lil’ husky.
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Dingleberry posted:https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/09/03/this-branch-takes-the-cake-as-the-us-militarys-fattest/ Just storing vitamin-D reserves for the long overcast winters!
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Dingleberry posted:https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/09/03/this-branch-takes-the-cake-as-the-us-militarys-fattest/ "The Navy, meanwhile, reported the lowest incidence rate of cumulative injuries. How much of that could be related to inactivity was not determined." 
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ZekeNY posted:"The Navy, meanwhile, reported the lowest incidence rate of cumulative injuries. How much of that could be related to inactivity was not determined." Didn’t count carpal tunnel otherwise the nukes’ WoW-sustained cumulative injuries would’ve spiked that.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:Didn’t count carpal tunnel otherwise the nukes’ WoW-sustained cumulative injuries would’ve spiked that. it really is flaring up playing classic right now. this poo poo didnt use to hurt
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Sep 5, 2019 02:11
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Stop paying sailors to get married young and have babies, start paying them to run. Analyze your workload (GAO report in Dec 2018 said this was started 10 years after the initial recommendation to do so). Improve retention (see previous step). Develop a reserve capability that replaces Sailors that attrite, instead of offering commanders the treacherous decision to divest themselves of resources and threaten operability on the principle of standards. I assume the CTF doesn't like, "I can't get underway, but we are getting in three runs a week!" The injuries statement, while somewhat humorous is a serious deal. Losing one man to a running injury can be 50% of a rate on a ship because you only had 2 of the 4 billets ungapped to begin with.
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Sep 5, 2019 16:25
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I can’t see the real harm in overweight sailors. Honestly, I can’t. You guys live on loving boats in the middle of the ocean- being able to run a 6 minute mile doesn’t loving matter in the middle of the ocean when your on a destroyer that’s primary job is firing various guided missiles. Or a submarine. Or an amphib. Or a carrier. Not being retardedly fat, I can understand, but honestly, I cannot fathom the harm caused by the navy being a little fatter than it’s sister services. It makes sense, it’s not like the navy’s ability to fight has honestly been impacted by being the “fattest” branch. Just not seeing the problem, I guess. Obviously your SEAL’s and USMC assigned corpsman etc, that’s different. But they’re fighting in entirely different domains and poo poo than the vast majority of sailors. Ya’ll need a tiered PT system or something, because there is absolutely loving nothing that’s one size fits all, or even most, with the Navy.
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Portable Submersible pumps weigh 75 pounds and you have to carry them up "stairs" that are practically vertical if not use an outright ladder. And when you're carrying them its because something is flooding and you need to hustle. Firefighting gear isn't light, fire hoses aren't light. Fat guy in a fire suit even without a real fire get overheated and exhausted pretty quickly. Also especially on submarines most areas are just wide enough for two skinny guys to pass if they turn sideways.
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Sep 5, 2019 17:11
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I was told to stop exercising before watch and while in Port on duty days because of the perception it gave coners of fully qualified nuke watchstanders. gently caress the Navy and especially senior enlisted.
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Sep 5, 2019 17:17
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I got a high school buddy who just got married to a chick he’s been dating for three years. Their life plan? He’s too old to join the service so she joined the coast guard and she’s currently in boot... Gettin’ that BAH and health insurance heyyyyy Oh she’s like 22. I dont know what to say.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:I can’t see the real harm in overweight sailors. Honestly, I can’t. You guys live on loving boats in the middle of the ocean- being able to run a 6 minute mile doesn’t loving matter in the middle of the ocean when your on a destroyer that’s primary job is firing various guided missiles. Or a submarine. Or an amphib. Or a carrier. There are a lot more tasks and duties expected of shipboard sailors that have nothing to do with people's primary jobs. There is always a lot of hard work to do on a ship. Chipping and painting, stores onloads, working parties etc etc. The current fitness system in the Navy is definitely dumb though so yeah...
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M_Gargantua posted:Portable Submersible pumps weigh 75 pounds and you have to carry them up "stairs" that are practically vertical if not use an outright ladder. And when you're carrying them its because something is flooding and you need to hustle. That's a legitimate concern I suppose but when I was active and not a fatass I was an incredibly tired malnourished port and starboard cic watchstander. What I'm saying is the Navy has problems. Also maybe dont try to keep manning up by completely giving up on pfa standards lol.
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Lou Takki posted:There are a lot more tasks and duties expected of shipboard sailors that have nothing to do with people's primary jobs. There is always a lot of hard work to do on a ship. Chipping and painting, stores onloads, working parties etc etc. Lol stores onload is not hard work lol.
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Being in shape helps you with those 36 hour workdays too, but hard to stay in shape if you're working them and not already just super inclined to be a workout monster.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:I was told to stop exercising before watch and while in Port on duty days because of the perception it gave coners of fully qualified nuke watchstanders. PneumonicBook posted:That's a legitimate concern I suppose but when I was active and not a fatass I was an incredibly tired malnourished port and starboard cic watchstander. This is absolutely where those numbers come from. You are actually discouraged from exercising in the fleet.
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M_Gargantua posted:Portable Submersible pumps weigh 75 pounds and you have to carry them up "stairs" that are practically vertical if not use an outright ladder. And when you're carrying them its because something is flooding and you need to hustle. Maybe a focus on functional fitness? Like the heavy equipment carrying and firefighting, you can train to that without running 3-5 miles a day. A simple stationary bike or elliptical and doing functional strength training should be more than adequate for everything you described. Sounds like you need strong sailors, more than skinny or fast running ones. Like I said man, a tiered a system makes sense- and being obese isn’t compatible with military service regardless of branch, but overweight? I don’t find that to be a huge issue for the USN. Keep in mind I’m being specific with overweight here, I.E. higher than a BMI of 25 but less than 30. I’m not talking egregiously fat folks, just your normal not skinny but not obese overweight types. I understand why fitness is good, I do. I enforced and lived that poo poo for years, but I also know for a fact that being overweight isn’t necessarily inherently bad or a disqualification for being good at your job and being able to execute your duties. You’ll find that if your service goes full retard in response to these studies, that it will result in hilarious (to me, the uninterested outsider) consequences. Hell, the last time you guys cracked down on PT big time I had to help our command separate 3 IS’s and 1 CT who cost the government insane amounts of money to train, let alone clear. Two landed jobs as contractors doing similar stuff like they did while on AD. Except now they cost way more to pay, don’t deploy or go on ships, and they’re all as fat and happy as can be. That’s loving hilarious, to me at least. No idea what happened to the other 2. But it was all honorable discharges, nobody lost benefits, I’d have had a goddamn litter of kitten if someone had tried to give anything besides honorable, but luckily no one did and I’m pretty sure the regs say that if the only thing wrong is failing PT than it’s an honorable. But you just know if you crack down again there’ll be Khaki’s trying to gently caress people. LtCol J. Krusinski fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Sep 5, 2019 |
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Maybe a focus on functional fitness? Like the heavy equipment carrying and firefighting, you can train to that without running 3-5 miles a day. A simple stationary bike or elliptical and doing functional strength training should be more than adequate for everything you described. Change should start with leadership.
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How are people getting fat at sea in a military environment where the same org. setting the weight limit determines their diet?
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shovelbum posted:How are people getting fat at sea in a military environment where the same org. setting the weight limit determines their diet? 
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shovelbum posted:How are people getting fat at sea in a military environment where the same org. setting the weight limit determines their diet? Have...have you never been on a deployed ship? Or any ship? Or Navy Galley? Or...base? The Navys 'culture of fitness' is a hot garbage mess that does an absolutely horrible job at keeping people fit.
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I'm a merchant seaman, we fry up huge piles of stuff and eat it all day at best, and if it's not provided we go ashore and buy em out of calories, but no one can tell us what to do and many of us are well nigh spherical
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Yeah if you think the navy has an obesity problem, go pull the crew from any cargo ship or tanker. We had deckhands who couldn’t go into ballast tanks, the man holes were too narrow. I had a chief mate get stuck down there once.
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I do all my weight gain on vacation, I can't believe how much some guys pack it on at sea, my first lovely box boat I lost several pounds a week
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