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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Gonzo McFee posted:

Kind of shocked that KSA want him considering he's Jewish.

Imagine being more palatable to the KSA as a Jewish person than being the "wrong kind of Muslim" (Sami Zayn).

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UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



KSA vs. Israel is a work while KSA vs. Syria is a shoot, obviously.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Didn't get around to the podcast yet but Dave is really bummed about Goldberg going to Saudia Arabia in the newsletter.

Saudi bux can buy a lot of vans full of toys for Bill to give to kids in need. :unsmith:

Is this like trophy hunting where you appease one rich shithead to save hundreds of animals.

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

KSA vs. Israel is a work while KSA vs. Syria is a shoot, obviously.

p much

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Gonzo McFee posted:

Kind of shocked that KSA want him considering he's Jewish.

I thought KSA and Israel were on decent enough terms since they both enjoy genocide and mass migrations of undesirables.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
Listened to the Wrestlesplania episode about Maki Itoh and am now excited for Maki vs Aja Kong.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

coconono posted:

I thought KSA and Israel were on decent enough terms since they both enjoy genocide and mass migrations of undesirables.

unofficially yes but the house of saud likes to play protector of palestine in public from time to time

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Senerio posted:

Listened to the Wrestlesplania episode about Maki Itoh and am now excited for Maki vs Aja Kong.

It's going to be very fun

I need to listen to more Wrestlesplania also. Only started getting into it/listening very recently with the Kris Wolf guest appearance

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


House of Saud: We need to remember what's important in life: money, nepotism, god. Or nepotism, money, god. Doesn't matter, but god is third.

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

Gonzo McFee posted:

Kind of shocked that KSA want him considering he's Jewish.

Paul Heyman got a bigger pop than Roman Reigns during the first show.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Lid posted:

Tony Atlas comes out as the only true hero of the Brody story. Abdullah sucks and Dutch omits the parts of the story that dont look great on him, such as why he covered for Jose (in that he was there but only Atlas said it was Jose which means Dutch either said nothing or said the fan line).

Dutch also supported the self-defense by talking about Invader's shirt being ripped.


This is good too. This just is so hosed up.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Every time Dutch Mantel comments on something it reminds me that he's kinda terrible.

Him defending Brody being killed makes me wonder if there wasn't personal enmity between Dutch and Brody, not hard to fathom since Brody had a habit of pissing people off. Which still doesn't excuse defending a murderer.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Dave has been shutting down people better/more amusingly than usual this week

A sample and something else at the end:

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1123770406131859456

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1124021198164303873

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1124020446494633984

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1124021460610244609

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/epitasis/status/1124152084180471813

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Dave's knowledge of TV ratings is amazing and it always amazes me when he owns the people saying Cord Cutting is causing Raw Ratings to drop

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

SatoshiMiwa posted:

Dave's knowledge of TV ratings is amazing and it always amazes me when he owns the people saying Cord Cutting is causing Raw Ratings to drop

There was one person on the F4W board who would incessantly post about how Nielsen ratings are just a big scam and the viewership for Raws and Nitros were entirely wrong. And Dave would come in every time and just yell at how dumb this fucker is.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


Chris James 2 posted:

It's going to be very fun

I need to listen to more Wrestlesplania also. Only started getting into it/listening very recently with the Kris Wolf guest appearance

their intro to joshi episode is a must-listen, I think it's both's introduction to All-Japan Women's (and I think Kath hadn't really seen much STARDOM prior either?)

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..

i stopped looking on twitter are the ostensibly socialist aarons still completely in the tank for the woke billionaire owned wrestling company

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1124290347872296961

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

taube doesnt do the show because hes doing socialism all the time and bentley’s main position on billionaires is theyre stupid who stumbled backwards into their money and shouldnt exist so maybe the twitter consensus among the swamp communists is not an assessment you should take at face value

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Vince: Schindler and I both produced bombs for the Germans, the difference is mine worked!

Germansimp
May 28, 2013




I mean, they already have an Elimination Chamber...

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Spermgod posted:

i stopped looking on twitter are the ostensibly socialist aarons still completely in the tank for the woke billionaire owned wrestling company

socialism remains popular, wwe not as much

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

GoutPatrol posted:

There was one person on the F4W board who would incessantly post about how Nielsen ratings are just a big scam and the viewership for Raws and Nitros were entirely wrong. And Dave would come in every time and just yell at how dumb this fucker is.

Nielson’s format provides a ton of possibilities for bad data, and why we’re using it in 2019 is insane.

I guess I don’t see how wrestling is getting a bad deal, or how raw or nitro specifically were inaccurate. Or, really how anyone could prove that. I do know it’s a format that could be heavily influenced by human error.

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
Granny's casual story about having a dream where she takes an elevator to hell made me snort

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Low Desert Punk posted:

Granny's casual story about having a dream where she takes an elevator to hell made me snort

Vinny then declaring his grandfather also has terrible dreams JUST BEFORE HE DIED! and Bryan's horrified reaction was great too.

Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
Very, very good new F4D with Lance. Lance is the best I've seen at clearly articulating how and why WWE is failing.

Also good behind the scenes info on the Brian Cage injury if anyone is interested

e: Also thought it was interesting on the Pacific Rim podcast that Fumi says Moxley would be perfect for New Japan, and people in Japan are already speculating about it. I honestly didn't think he'd be a good fit

Low Desert Punk fucked around with this message at 00:24 on May 5, 2019

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Always been a Lance fan audio wise. But "I texted a buddy this" gets slightly grating at points as he says it too much.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Low Desert Punk posted:

Very, very good new F4D with Lance. Lance is the best I've seen at clearly articulating how and why WWE is failing.

Also good behind the scenes info on the Brian Cage injury if anyone is interested

e: Also thought it was interesting on the Pacific Rim podcast that Fumi says Moxley would be perfect for New Japan, and people in Japan are already speculating about it. I honestly didn't think he'd be a good fit

Moxley's a great fit for NJPW in the same way as Jericho. He's a name that has credibility with US fans, plus he works a brawl-y style that Japanese fans like from gaijin.

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Moxley joining up with Suzuki-gun would help with his weak offense and allow him to brawl in crowds all the time

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

mkay0 posted:

Nielson’s format provides a ton of possibilities for bad data, and why we’re using it in 2019 is insane.

I guess I don’t see how wrestling is getting a bad deal, or how raw or nitro specifically were inaccurate. Or, really how anyone could prove that. I do know it’s a format that could be heavily influenced by human error.

It’ll be interesting when Smackdown moves to Fox because at least the model they use to calculate OTA TV ratings is more inclusive and less presumptive than cable. It’s still garbage though and I agree it’s amazing it’s being used in 2019.

But yeah as you say I don’t see how it’s specifically unfair to wrestling specifically. It’s the model advertisers use and accept so it sort of doesn’t matter if there are a bunch of uncounted wrestling fans, especially now that the WWE isn’t really a PPV or live event business anymore.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Fuckin lost it at Granny going "And you know you have to lose, right?"

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1125160845690826753

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Rick posted:

It’ll be interesting when Smackdown moves to Fox because at least the model they use to calculate OTA TV ratings is more inclusive and less presumptive than cable. It’s still garbage though and I agree it’s amazing it’s being used in 2019.

But yeah as you say I don’t see how it’s specifically unfair to wrestling specifically. It’s the model advertisers use and accept so it sort of doesn’t matter if there are a bunch of uncounted wrestling fans, especially now that the WWE isn’t really a PPV or live event business anymore.

Yeah, it's one thing to say it's inaccurate, but it's inaccurate across the board, so it's not unfair to any one program.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

rovert posted:

Haven't listened yet. But I've heard interviews with him before. Jimmy's brain and mouth moves a mile a minute once you accept that Jimmy has a lot to offer and will make you think about Pro Wrestling in new ways:

https://twitter.com/JimmyJacobsX/status/1123606061972377611

I liked this a lot, though it's a lot of what you've already known/heard from Bryan before. Jimmy is an excellent interviewer, kind of a better version of Colt, and doesn't get in Bryan's way too much. Good listen and I'd love to see what other guests he gets on there.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://twitter.com/FO_VVerhei/status/1125253755618783232

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
what time do Monday WORs usually go up

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

late

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Yeah like 1-2am Pacific

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Vinny telling the story about getting kicked in the back of the head in a match and only grasping AFTER Bryan pointed it out that he should have turned and faced the other direction after the first kick absolutely cracked me up.

Vinny always jokes about how bad he was and how slow whatever improvement he made was, but the fact he didn't grasp this until Bryan pointed it out all these years later is just great. It's not like he's dumb either, like the man himself says,"I HAVE A BIG BRAIN!", but it just wasn't something he really got.

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