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infernal machines posted:no more plastic packaging for the device that is permanently bricked by activation locks and 3rd party repairs coming after the next store refresh: Apple Sticker: $29 [Mini] [Pro] [Max] [Add to Cart] [Maybe Later]
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May 9, 2024 21:51
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goddamn it what will I slap on my lovely dell?
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May 9, 2024 22:10
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in my head, infernal machines works at some sketchy “repair shop” that’s like 90% a fence
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May 9, 2024 22:16
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close enough. i handle a lot of "e-waste" from clients who have upgraded their devices and can't be bothered to remove them from their apple accounts. i don't even want to sell the stuff, i would just give it to people locally who need something, but i can't because the hardware is useless unless the people who "recycled" it can be bothered to go through the process to remove the activation lock, which they don't care to do. so instead it's actually trash
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May 9, 2024 22:33
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it's not even like they explicitly refuse and insist the device be trashed, they just say "okay" when i explain the process to deactivate find my or remove it from their account and then don't do it because it's too many steps or something. i have to actually go through the process with them when offboarding the device or it doesn't happen. so i have a bunch of phones and ipads that people who can't afford to buy a new one could use, but can't because we had to go nuclear to kill the stolen device market. except of course we haven't done that and you can use some shady-rear end overseas service to do it, as long as you're willing to pay.
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May 9, 2024 22:38
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so you contrast this with removing the stickers you've included with your gear for 30-odd years or removing the charger, so it has to be purchased separately, in the name of the environment and it's a bit funny
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May 9, 2024 22:43
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just get the program they use and skip the middleman. i believe in you
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May 9, 2024 22:43
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infernal, it's time we buy a 5 Tonne press and go into business together! we can install it at the Montessori school
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May 9, 2024 22:49
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we can just compress all the old iphones and ipads into a sculpture, like the metaphorical opposite of that ad
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May 9, 2024 22:52
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did the hydraulic press get rid of the camera bump
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May 9, 2024 22:53
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yeah i’m pretty sure you can just crush them to get a new ipad. maybe add a stradivarius and a can of paint as a catalyst
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May 9, 2024 22:54
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Jonny 290 posted:just get the program they use and skip the middleman. i believe in you i really should put some work into figuring out how that functions. i looked into it a few years back but it seems to require some level of carrier integration and obviously some connection to apple, but i don't know the specifics. probably 80% of the sites offering it are scams anyway, so it's definitely a nut to crack
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May 9, 2024 22:54
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rjmccall posted:yeah i’m pretty sure you can just crush them to get a new ipad. maybe add a stradivarius and a can of paint as a catalyst we just need a philosopher's stone
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May 9, 2024 22:56
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a giant statue of tim cook made from “recycled” apple products, titled iWaste
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May 9, 2024 23:02
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apple recycles ads too https://twitter.com/asallen/status/1788428991118164356
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May 10, 2024 00:32
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rjmccall posted:in my head, infernal machines works at some sketchy “repair shop” that’s like 90% a fence better than working for some sketchy company that purposely bricks hardware so it can’t be resold/recycled
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May 10, 2024 00:53
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this person that traded in their car didnt give me the keys. this is worthless. ford bricks their vehicles on purpose so they can't be resold/recycled
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May 10, 2024 00:55
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idk, i think you can still re-key cars. i mean, it's also a terrible metaphor, but i think you can still re-key cars.
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May 10, 2024 00:59
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you generally need to prove ownership first. which does bring up a valid point - i wouldnt mind seeing a bill of sale type thing that legally defined a phone or similar expensive gadget owner. maybe that would help mitigate, if apple would play ball with it and unlock something you had the paperwork for?
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May 10, 2024 01:08
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apple actually has a 1st party unlock service. they don't provide any details about how they decide whether to unlock a device or not but anecdotal user testing suggests it's based on the device age and whether the icloud account is still actively used. new device are basically a no go, and if the account has been signed into in the last year, also no go. of course the imei has to be clean and the device can't be flagged as stolen orr lost. the former generally isn't an issue, these things are usually three to five years old by the time i get them, but the icloud accounts remain active because they people still use them, the imeis are always clean because these are being given to me by the original owners. but because they use their apple accounts and they don't want to take the time to navigate the preference pane and remove the device, well, they're junk.
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May 10, 2024 01:13
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huh, TIL. thats cool that there's at least some sort of option
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May 10, 2024 01:18
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it's not bad at all, it's just the particulars of how it seems to work in practice mean it doesn't really work for my use case. it also assumes you have the device because of a sale and requires receipts and seller information, and i don't buy these devices, so idk how that's supposed to work.
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May 10, 2024 01:20
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we should definitely have a system (if we really don’t already) for charities to say “this was just donated” and get the hardware reset. assuming it’s not in fact currently registered as stolen, that is, which is something that charities presumably already have to deal with lol @ the idea that we’re bricking them to prevent legitimate resale, though. the random guy on sa mart giving you a great deal on an ipad he mysteriously can’t unlock is in fact 100% selling you stolen goods
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May 10, 2024 01:22
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i don’t really know if that’s a problem on sa mart
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May 10, 2024 01:24
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no, i get that there are good reasons for the activation locks. i think in practice, they way they're implemented has resulted in shitloads of perfectly serviceable hardware being crushed and shipped to the third world to be stripped for precious metals. i don't like that, but moreso i think it's funny every time apple claims to be doing something nakedly self serving "for the environment"
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May 10, 2024 01:25
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rjmccall posted:i don’t really know if that’s a problem on sa mart those cd/steam key resellers are the most sketchy
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May 10, 2024 01:58
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infernal machines posted:apple actually has a 1st party unlock service. they don't provide any details about how they decide whether to unlock a device or not but anecdotal user testing suggests it's based on the device age and whether the icloud account is still actively used. new device are basically a no go, and if the account has been signed into in the last year, also no go. of course the imei has to be clean and the device can't be flagged as stolen orr lost. I mean, if someone has active access to their iCloud account and is just obstinate about the idea of removing a device, that's significantly more on them than on Apple. infernal machines posted:i don't like that, but moreso i think it's funny every time apple claims to be doing something nakedly self serving "for the environment" This all came out of the fact that they aren't putting stickers in the boxes any more, and it's hard to call that nakedly self-serving when they easily gained more in marketing value from those stickers than they cost. Apple under timb clearly has more concern about the environment than they have had at any point in their past.
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May 10, 2024 13:32
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if you love tim so much why don't you marry him?
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May 10, 2024 13:47
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LanceHunter posted:Apple under timb clearly has more concern about the environment than they have had at any point in their past. lmao if you believe this
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May 10, 2024 13:56
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akadajet posted:lmao if you believe this Please, point me to the year when Apple was more environmentally conscious.
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May 10, 2024 14:24
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they sold the least crap 1996
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May 10, 2024 14:28
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LanceHunter posted:Please, point me to the year when Apple was more environmentally conscious. it's a steady zero on the timeline op
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May 10, 2024 14:37
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doing things for the bottom line or to adhere to regulations doesn’t count for giving a poo poo about the environment even if the effects of those things benefit the environment as a side effect, hth op
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May 10, 2024 14:41
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LanceHunter posted:Please, point me to the year when Apple was more environmentally conscious. the apple 1 had a compostable wooden case, OP
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May 10, 2024 14:46
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LanceHunter posted:Please, point me to the year when Apple was more environmentally conscious. their products have never been less repairable or user serviceable
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May 10, 2024 14:48
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but hey they do the whole greenwashing thing so I guess that worked on you
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May 10, 2024 14:49
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love when a $1 component failure turns my mac into a $4000 brick but at least they'll recycle it for free
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May 10, 2024 15:10
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r u ready to WALK posted:love when a $1 component failure turns my mac into a $4000 brick recycling is green, so recycling a lot is doing a lot
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May 10, 2024 15:21
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May 10, 2024 15:35
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i have a bunch of the black apple stickers e: and a couple silvers
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