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ICHIBAHN posted:A question for you: going to Raw taping tonight. Seemingly it starts at 7, until 11. Would I be right in saying RAW itself starts at 7 then there's an hour of bullshit including a dark match at the end? Or is is bullshit at the start, then Raw at 8? Cheers. They tape matches for Superstars before 8. You may get a dark match after the show depending on what happens in the main event (if the heels win, there will be a dark segment where the heels get their comeuppance)
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projecthalaxy posted:The best big show moment was when Steph had spent months forcing big show to be a weapon against his will and then she made him punch the Miz and she couldn't even get the command out before Big Show murderized him This is the correct answer
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Why did Naito win the IWGP title for 2 months in the summer?
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ICHIBAHN posted:Why did Naito win the IWGP title for 2 months in the summer? He was the hottest thing they had going at the time and they probably wanted to test whether he could carry shows attendance-wise. Plus he has really improved as a worker, way less botchy than he used to be.
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Also Naito is extremely cool.
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Naito's gimmick of being alternatively the laziest man on Mars and also the fastest man on the planet is amazing. I will also never ever get tired of Shibata v Naito matches.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Why did Naito win the IWGP title for 2 months in the summer? Token reign for being the most over act in the company (and an excuse to run the Okada match at two major shows, both in Tokyo and Osaka), but lost it in such time that it wouldn't mess up any of their late 2016-early 2017 plans for Okada, who, it's becoming clear, nobody will be pushed ahead of for the time being regardless of if they're more popular. Spermgod fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Bigass Moth posted:Did this really happen? ya
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Spermgod posted:...Okada, who, it's becoming clear, nobody will be pushed ahead of for the time being regardless of if they're more popular. Are people starting to hop on the "Okada was always bad" train? I seem to be seeing more people online venting about him here and there. I think he's overpushed, but the dude still puts on amazing matches 99% of the time.
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Okada is good. People post that he gets exposed on the rare occasion he isn't wrestling Tanahashi, where he shows himself to be merely incredibly good.
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Okada is the ace of the universe and the prettiest boy in the world. People who think he isn't good are ridiculous.
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Okada is guilty of the crime of tailoring his level of effort to the situation at hand rather than operating at peak levels all the time. He's cool.
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remusclaw posted:Okada is guilty of the crime of tailoring his level of effort to the situation at hand rather than operating at peak levels all the time. He's cool. Something I assume Nakamura taught him, given his default setting in WWE seems to be around 38%.
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Gaz-L posted:Something I assume Nakamura taught him, given his default setting in WWE seems to be around 38%. As it should be. Why kill yourself in a nothing match when you're already over and can save that poo poo for when it matters
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Let's go Okada
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Okada rules, his work ethic and nakamuras, rules. They're working smart. Don't get me wrong btw, i LOVE Naito. Just wondered if there was a story behind his brief reign.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:As it should be. Why kill yourself in a nothing match when you're already over and can save that poo poo for when it matters A house show crowd is going home happy if they get to sing along with his music and see him do his pose and good vibrations and hit a kinshasa
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Okada is young, great at wrestling, over with the crowd, popular with other wrestlers, has a safe finisher and good gimmick, and has the complete backing of the company he works for I don't think there's any other top guy on the planet who can tick that many boxes off
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remusclaw posted:Okada is guilty of the crime of tailoring his level of effort to the situation at hand rather than operating at peak levels all the time. He's cool. The Kevin Nash method.
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Peak Kevin Nash is low level, though. And I love him for it.
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remusclaw posted:Naito's gimmick of being alternatively the laziest man on Mars and also the fastest man on the planet is amazing.  NienNunb posted:Okada is the ace of the universe and the prettiest boy in the world.
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Okada is the best worker in the world, and will never ever be Always Bad One thing I'm curious about - I see Kurt Angle cited a lot as the key guy behind popularizing the contemporary-ish main event style of trading and reversing a large number of finishers. Who else would you all say has had the most direct impact on how people wrestle matches in 2016, especially when they're trying to make those into classic matches?
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I'd say Choshu is probably the biggest single influence on the in-ring style of post-80s wrestling. Revolutionised the style of both NJPW and AJPW and that had a knock on effect on everywhere else.
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As someone who's only seen very sporadic Japanese stuff before the 90's, could you go into any detail on what innovations can be traced to Choshu's work?
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Jenny Angel posted:As someone who's only seen very sporadic Japanese stuff before the 90's, could you go into any detail on what innovations can be traced to Choshu's work? Invented the Sharpshooter
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St Evan Echoes posted:Totally Can confirm.
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Jenny Angel posted:As someone who's only seen very sporadic Japanese stuff before the 90's, could you go into any detail on what innovations can be traced to Choshu's work? Dispensed with matwork, threw a lot of bombs, fast paced action with lots of back-and-forth and near falls.
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When exactly did the FU become the AA? I missed the period from about 08 to '12 so I am not sure. Did they ever address it directly or just one day Cena's finisher had a new name?
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Evil Canadian posted:When exactly did the FU become the AA? I missed the period from about 08 to '12 so I am not sure. Did they ever address it directly or just one day Cena's finisher had a new name? when they went pg cena didnt cut a promo or anything cole just started calling it the attitude adjustment then the AA I think it was during a feud with randy orton. Cena said a line about adjusting randy's lovely attitude and then they started calling his FU the AA during that ppv
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I always laughed at Cena talking about how it had ALWAYS been the AA to him.
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So watching Capital Punishment 2011. Did R-Truth's heel turn and title shot come out of nowhere? What was the opinion on it?
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OldTennisCourt posted:So watching Capital Punishment 2011. Did R-Truth's heel turn and title shot come out of nowhere? What was the opinion on it? His heel turn was loving amazing, as was his team with The Miz, up until, they got utterly clowned by The Rock and Cena.
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The title shot was a bit of a reach (they basically needed someone between Miz and CM Punk) but he was reasonably over.
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Evil Canadian posted:When exactly did the FU become the AA? I missed the period from about 08 to '12 so I am not sure. Did they ever address it directly or just one day Cena's finisher had a new name?
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Endless Mike posted:My favorite Big Show moment was finding out he was Steph's favorite childhood friend who protected her in the back. you mean Andre, Steph was on TV by the time the Big Show appeared in WWF edt. Alberto del Rio and the Big Show and a couple of good matches in 2013 at Royal Rumble and EC, fun feud with Richardo No Luck Needed fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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No Luck Needed posted:you mean Andre, Steph was on TV by the time the Big Show appeared in WWF  during the big show vs the authority feud, they said that big show was her friend when she was a little girl.
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OldTennisCourt posted:So watching Capital Punishment 2011. Did R-Truth's heel turn and title shot come out of nowhere? What was the opinion on it? His heel turn came when his buddy John Morrison goaded him into putting a title shot he'd earned on the line. He lost, snapped, beat up John Morrison, and blew cigarette smoke on his body. As a heel he was really mad the company didn't give opportunities to black wrestlers. He took his frustration out on children decked head to toe in John Cena merch (little jimmys) and the parents who bought it for them because R Truth didn't have a t-shirt at the time because the company was racist and didn't push black people. I don't know if these segments flew over someone's head backstage or if they just thought it would be funny if he just became a raving moron who actually hallucinated an invisible child who followed him everywhere named Little Jimmy and was terrified of spiders but that's what happened oatgan fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Why was it little Jimmy anyway. Wouldn't little Johnny be more correct for his point vis a vis tiny John Cena fans
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oatgan posted:His heel turn came when his buddy John Morrison goaded him into putting a title shot he'd earned on the line. He lost, snapped, beat up John Morrison, and blew cigarette smoke on his body. As a heel he was really mad the company didn't give opportunities to black wrestlers. He took his frustration out on children decked head to toe in John Cena merch (little jimmys) and the parents who bought it for them because R Truth didn't have a t-shirt at the time because the company was racist and didn't push black people. I don't know if these segments flew over someone's head backstage or if they just thought it would be funny if he just became a raving moron who actually hallucinated an invisible child who followed him everywhere named Little Jimmy and was terrified of spiders but that's what happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlbUtD-C_F4 the morrison angle was weird and sorta dumb and made them both seem like dumb assholes, but yeah that wacky angry "uppity" heel R truth was probably the best he's been
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