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a helpful bear posted:what does the national guard do in this situation? are they "loyal" to the cops, or supposed to be neutral between the two? i read that they're there just to protect important buildings from property destruction, partly because obviously that needs to be done, but that frees up police to do their thing rather than sitting around watching buildings
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a helpful bear posted:what does the national guard do in this situation? are they "loyal" to the cops, or supposed to be neutral between the two? The mayor was saying that their primary function here is to "Guard property", making sure people don't smash up important buildings and stuff so the cops can get out into the crowds to more effectively police everything. I'd imagine they're more or less neutral, but I have no idea how it works if people are smashing stuff and they're supposed to take action. Or if cops are doing stuff they perceive to be out of order.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/Myrna_Perez/status/779160440509169664 thanks for posting that gotta love the trump ads (2 now) during this coverage lol
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a cop posted:They love playing up the ticking clock. "It's been peaceful so far, but JUST THIRTY MINUTES LEFT~~" I'm not watching this to see peaceful protests. I will admit that peaceful protests can be very moving and fire on lots of feels, but I'm watching for the entertainment aspect. I don't want people to get hurt, but I'll be damned if I turn away when someone tells me they've timed a train wreck to happen.
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a cop posted:The mayor was saying that their primary function here is to "Guard property", making sure people don't smash up important buildings and stuff so the cops can get out into the crowds to more effectively police everything. Pro-white mayor. Deploys national guard to protect businesses and property, but will he get police to respond to black neighborhoods any quicker? In all honesty, that's straight from my rear end. I don't know what response times are in that area for police, but I'm inherently pessimistic about using force to save business property from angry mobs. Kind of a fine line (And I'm probably being a dumbass).
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Sep 23, 2016 04:46
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JoeBangles posted:Pro-white mayor. Deploys national guard to protect businesses and property, but will he get police to respond to black neighborhoods any quicker? the mayor is a woman democrat in a city that signed in extra LGBT protections (not saying she's great, but not sure right now), the governor is the shitheel
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Karl Sharks posted:the mayor is a woman democrat in a city that signed in extra LGBT protections (not saying she's great, but not sure right now), the governor is the shitheel Thanks for the real info! Makes sense since a mayor can't call in the national guard. I like seeing the large crowds in protest, and I feel that some layers of government dismiss their right or want to form these street protests.
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JoeBangles posted:Thanks for the real info! Makes sense since a mayor can't call in the national guard. I like seeing the large crowds in protest, and I feel that some layers of government dismiss their right or want to form these street protests. yeah it's a bit confusing, the governor called a state of emergency and the national guard in, but the mayor is the one who signed the curfew into effect
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Anyone know where these livestreams they keep switching through are actually from? I'd like to tune in to the actual stream rather than switch around.
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:Anyone know where these livestreams they keep switching through are actually from? I'd like to tune in to the actual stream rather than switch around. Looks like CNN is mostly broadcasting a chopper feed while MSNBC has a man on the ground.
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The personal streams I mean, I'm not a cop like you so I don't want to watch MSNBC or CNN.
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I just switched from my CNN tab to MSNBC where the MSNBC camera person was pointing the lens up at the CNN chopper. The future is cool haha.
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:Anyone know where these livestreams they keep switching through are actually from? I'd like to tune in to the actual stream rather than switch around. I'm not watching a stream, but this seems to be up-to-date with what I see on CNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCfIDK-nxLo I have no idea if that came out right.
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MSNBC guy: "What's [staying out here past the curfew] worth for you? Some kind of arrest? Some kind of fine?" Black woman: "I'm a black mother with a black son - it's worth my life." 
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To be clear, I'm watching this stream which was posted earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb3j_KUJhGk But it's looping through about half a dozen individual feeds and I want to find out where I can stay on one of those individual streams.
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frankenfreak posted:MSNBC guy: "What's [staying out here past the curfew] worth for you? Some kind of arrest? Some kind of fine?" gat dam
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"This looks like it could be a charity walk through a beautiful city, just at night" No heads being bashed in yet. Looks drat peaceful, it would be pretty nuts if the cops got aggressive regarding the curfew. Mayor should just say gently caress it and call it all off.
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I have to say that walking through a city with active curfew after midnight and giving speeches at intersections is really the way to peacefully protest. With it being 15 minutes after curfew, I'm happy to see everything rolling along smoothly with no shenanigans.
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I am oddly amused by this blob of people just sort of meandering through the streets from the POV of the CNN chopper http://www.livenewsbox.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
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They're interviewing a cop on cnn who asked them why they haven't forcibly removed anyone from the streets. Cop: "There hasn't been any need to. The group has been very peaceful so far. We can use the curfew as a tool if we need to, but hopefully we don't have to intervene at all." So yeah. Good job, cops, and good job protesters.
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a cop posted:I am oddly amused by this blob of people just sort of meandering through the streets from the POV of the CNN chopper Also RiP Scott
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This is turning more into a feel-good story. I don't know if I'm being duped like some Alex Jones conspiracy, or if these people are just making America great again (Both sides in Charlotte).
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It's good that the protests tonight have gone probably better than expected. I live in Charlotte and I had a coworker who lives near where the first nights protest was, and my boss lives in the area where they are tonight. I can't even watch the feeds, so I'm glad for the brief summaries. It sure did bring out my poo poo head friends who apparently are just eagerly waiting for an excuse to murder some protesters?
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Palisader posted:It's good that the protests tonight have gone probably better than expected. I live in Charlotte and I had a coworker who lives near where the first nights protest was, and my boss lives in the area where they are tonight. I can't even watch the feeds, so I'm glad for the brief summaries. Your city is doing the US proud tonight. Lots of tension resulting in lots of words and compromise. Great stuff! At this point, it seems more of a matter how long the crowd will last. Both sides are playing the right hands. That makes things boring yet memorable (Hopefully).
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JoeBangles posted:Your city is doing the US proud tonight. Lots of tension resulting in lots of words and compromise. Great stuff! At this point, it seems more of a matter how long the crowd will last. Both sides are playing the right hands. That makes things boring yet memorable (Hopefully). I can't ask for a better wish than to have boring yet memorable protests.
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JoeBangles posted:Your city is doing the US proud tonight. Lots of tension resulting in lots of words and compromise. Great stuff! At this point, it seems more of a matter how long the crowd will last. Both sides are playing the right hands. That makes things boring yet memorable (Hopefully). By many eyewitness accounts, the cops shot a guy in the head last night.
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:By many eyewitness accounts, the cops shot a guy in the head last night. I don't know if that's quite accurate. My understanding is that the person shot last night (On Wednesday night) was shot by another civilian. I'm not 100% sure of that, but I believe it's been touted on CNN for the past few hours that I've watched tonight. I may also be missing humor or sarcasm.
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With a rubber bullet at point blank range. Supposedly. And blamed it on the other protesters.
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a cop posted:They're interviewing a cop on cnn who asked them why they haven't forcibly removed anyone from the streets. JoeBangles posted:This is turning more into a feel-good story. I don't know if I'm being duped like some Alex Jones conspiracy, or if these people are just making America great again (Both sides in Charlotte). yeah this is pretty 
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Palisader posted:With a rubber bullet at point blank range. Supposedly. And blamed it on the other protesters.
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Ok the chat at the top right of this has me dying http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/live-streaming/ not sure if it's actually a replay or not, it says replay at the top left. Everyone is talking to the cameraman directly, who's name is apparently "Billy". e: Yeah it's a replay from an hour ago. Nevermind.
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a helpful bear posted:what does the national guard do in this situation? are they "loyal" to the cops, or supposed to be neutral between the two? I am taking a homeland security classes right now as a minor. Basically the guard is there to protect critical resources and infrastructure ( keeping people away from government buildings, power plants, banks,fusion centers, poo poo like that) and if in the nonexistent case that cops got overwhelmed (like shootouts bombing,poo poo like that.) i wouldn't worry about them. They won't be protecting random business though maybe in the city center but that would be mostly it. Dapper_Swindler has issued a correction as of 10:52 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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a cop posted:Mayor: It's hard to see what the gentlemen is holding. It's a small item and the gun in question is a small gun. But again it is not a clear video and I think that ambiguity is something that will be a challenge and it's why I want to have an investigation completed before anything else happens. "in this transient universe do objects really exist" he added
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:By many eyewitness accounts, the cops shot a guy in the head last night. And by many eyewitness accounts the dude had a book and not a gun, people's memory of events like that is terrible and should be ignored. papa_november posted:also facebook vanished all traces of live streams of this You should post this here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=242
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Eyewitness accounts are garbage and there are tons of studies that show this. People remember wrongly all the time and are incredibly vulnerable to suggestion. One guy says 'kinda looked like a book' and suddenly the dozen people who heard him go 'yeah I remember it was a book!'
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