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Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

bag em and tag em posted:

My buddy is in year 5 of IT having started out with literally 0 knowledge or experience. He just faked it in his interview. The thing is however stupid you think you are with conouters, everyone else is even worse. There are somehow still people who are totally baffled about even the most basic functions of the magic glow box with the Google inside. So just lie and successfully turn on a computer and you get the job then fake it until you make it.

Thanks I'm gonna finish my ba and be a computer janitor. hekk yyea

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Dave_Indeed
Feb 22, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Entry level programmer jobs are harder to acquire than IT.

You can fake your way into a helpdesk position pretty easily. They're all brainless mutants too so you don't even have to know anything, they're just looking for some kind of experience working with computers.

When I started I had a gaming buddy that was a CIO in another state. He let me put his info on my resume as a "sub contract" doing remote support for clients with an access backend. Also learn how to write a resume that isn't poo poo.

Now show up to work on time and dressed impeccably. Work really really hard night and day until you get promoted in a few weeks, then show up to your sweet new IT job late, disheveled and smelling pretty bad so you fit in.

A CRAB IRL
May 6, 2009

If you're looking for me, you better check under the sea

I worked in junior IT for 2 months before I decided I would rather deal with the living hell that is being a technical account manager at a marketing agency than deal with my loving IT coworkers one picosecond longer

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc
I went from IT support to project management. I miss it terribly.

Pajser
Jan 28, 2006
i would like to live in a world where IT pays more than minimum wage

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Captain Yossarian posted:

I don't work in IT you fuckman

yes you do

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
i dunno take some comp sci classes in college and then luck into it six years later when your other things don't pan out

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

i work for a bank it sucks balls lol i dont know any of that computer poo poo

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010
I work in Tech as a generalist doing engineering stuff (i.e. I solve problems that are weird and/or hard to solve) and I make 6 figgies a year.

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010
I also don't know how to hard boil an egg or paint a shed. I am a literal retard in 95% of all things.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Learn to code enough to get an entry-level job. You'll get on the job training for the rest.

It used to be you needed a comp sci degree or maybe some certs. These days things are changing to the point where if you can code, that's all companies care about.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Oh and don't go into IT unless you hate yourself.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

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Minimalist Program posted:

I also don't know how to hard boil an egg or paint a shed. I am a literal retard in 95% of all things.
preheat the paint in a large pan until its at smoke point then apply the egg mixture with a rolling brush

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Minimalist Program posted:

I work in Tech as a generalist doing engineering stuff (i.e. I solve problems that are weird and/or hard to solve) and I make 6 figgies a year.

help this decade old database is returning the wrong session one in ten thousand times and it might be related to the load balancer or it might not!!!

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
moonlighting as a camwhore doesnt count as IT, right

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

Mozi posted:

help this decade old database is returning the wrong session one in ten thousand times and it might be related to the load balancer or it might not!!!

we can't just take it off the load balancer, you'll have to do it saturday night at 9 pm lol

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Mozi posted:

help this decade old database is returning the wrong session one in ten thousand times and it might be related to the load balancer or it might not!!!

Have you tried polarizing the deflector dish?

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

i remember seeing a human interest piece a while ago on the local news where this company was hiring high-functioning autistic people to run their tier 1 technical support

take that how you want to

pre-emptive edit: i work from home

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

The "IT" jobs most people think of when they hear IT are terrible. Talking to end users or doing basic sysadmin stuff is boring and the coworkers are the worst. Teach yourself some math, get a LLC, learn haskell/lisp or some other functional language or learn ML framework stuff like tensorflow, then just fly around the world putting peoples problems into mostly the same models / solving the same ODE's and you're making all the money you could want.

And most importantly, try to get business savvy. You have to know what people out there want and how to sell your services to them. Go to the trade shows CIOs/CISOs go to and learn how to pitch yourself using all the dumb buzzphrases they learn.

Good luck OP!

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Blockade posted:

The "IT" jobs most people think of when they hear IT are terrible. Talking to end users or doing basic sysadmin stuff is boring and the coworkers are the worst. Teach yourself some math, get a LLC, learn haskell/lisp or some other functional language or learn ML framework stuff like tensorflow, then just fly around the world putting peoples problems into mostly the same models / solving the same ODE's and you're making all the money you could want.

And most importantly, try to get business savvy. You have to know what people out there want and how to sell your services to them. Go to the trade shows CIOs/CISOs go to and learn how to pitch yourself using all the dumb buzzphrases they learn.

Good luck OP!

no no no I appreciate the advice but you dont understand I want to avoid hard work

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010

Mozi posted:

help this decade old database is returning the wrong session one in ten thousand times and it might be related to the load balancer or it might not!!!

*in extremely gay voice* sounds like a load balancer problem to me.

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

buckets of buckets posted:

no no no I appreciate the advice but you dont understand I want to avoid hard work

learn how to operate in unix or a niche ibm environment

you can be gainfully stoned for several years

Xtra Innings Lovin
Nov 11, 2016

I've worked for the govt since I got my underwater basket weaving ba in the mid-00s. It's been a good racket for several years but all this draining the swamp talk is sure problematic. I might have to learn how to code

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010

Blockade posted:

Teach yourself some math, get a LLC, learn haskell/lisp or some other functional language or learn ML framework stuff like tensorflow, then just fly around the world putting peoples problems into mostly the same models / solving the same ODE's and you're making all the money you could want.

This man speaks the truth.

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer
Basic IT poo poo is terrible but if you pick the right specialization it becomes interesting at least. I do network poo poo for an ISP and while it's exhausting and frequently stressful it pays pretty well and is almost never boring.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
Everyone who says "Lie" is unironically 100% correct.

Lie on your resume, lie to your boss about your skills, lie to their boss about your skills. Get a cool job title and ask for more money and by the time they figure out you're a hack you take that job title and get a better job.

You don't owe the company you (potentially) work for anything, squeeze that lovely job for every drop you can.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
do what i do and use nepotism to your advantage op!!!!

canned from the band
Sep 13, 2007

I'm a man of intensity. Of cool, and youth, and passionately

buckets of buckets posted:

no no no I appreciate the advice but you dont understand I want to avoid hard work

ahhhh that's called management

canned from the band
Sep 13, 2007

I'm a man of intensity. Of cool, and youth, and passionately
also helps a lot of ur white and have a dick

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

Everyone who says "Lie" is unironically 100% correct.

Lie on your resume, lie to your boss about your skills, lie to their boss about your skills. Get a cool job title and ask for more money and by the time they figure out you're a hack you take that job title and get a better job.

You don't owe the company you (potentially) work for anything, squeeze that lovely job for every drop you can.

this only works if you are a brassy bullshit artist who can sweet-talk a reference from someone at each company you pull this at. if you can do this, why not go into sales? it pays better.

but otherwise, yeah, go ahead and fleece some idiots into giving you employment

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Chinatown posted:

do what i do and use nepotism to your advantage op!!!!

I would but I have no friends and my family died in the great krokodil wave of ought eight

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

You'll have to "work hard" for a short period of time in order to prove you're capable of doing it, and then it's just not being the slowest 6% of the workforce every two years

Pizza In A Cup
Jul 29, 2006

a gentle soul
i got my IT job cause my boss knew about my minecraft server and said one day 'you're into that computer poo poo right? wanna work in IT'? so i said yes and now i watch twitch all day and get mad when someone puts in a ticket

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
google

Dave_Indeed
Feb 22, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Blockade posted:

The "IT" jobs most people think of when they hear IT are terrible. Talking to end users or doing basic sysadmin stuff is boring and the coworkers are the worst. Teach yourself some math, get a LLC, learn haskell/lisp or some other functional language or learn ML framework stuff like tensorflow, then just fly around the world putting peoples problems into mostly the same models / solving the same ODE's and you're making all the money you could want.

And most importantly, try to get business savvy. You have to know what people out there want and how to sell your services to them. Go to the trade shows CIOs/CISOs go to and learn how to pitch yourself using all the dumb buzzphrases they learn.

Good luck OP!

Haskell Lisp and TensorFlow look hard, is that really a good place to start for someone who has never coded?

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i've heard of it

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Idk op sometimes after I eat a tray of stoffers mac and cheese I like to stick my weird, thin, misshapen, pointy nerd penis between some couch cushions and squeeze them together. My cat hates my farts but jokes on him, I live in a studio apartment because it's the only thing I can afford near work and my butt is usually near his face. Sometime I think about stopping by the titty bar on the way back from night classes at itt tech but then I remember they have a dress code and I work in acid washed spandex jeans and keds. Plus I would hate switching from regular to reading glasses every time I got a lap dance. :smith:

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


Just spend 6 years getting your EE doctorate, OP.

Easiest money ever.

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?
When I was doing IT recuitment, the jobs / candidates we never seemed to touch were freelance SAP specialists. These guys just seemed to be forever in demand, charged a ton a day, got to travel pretty much all over the world and were generally very aware that they were sought after and loving exploited it to the max. Since i know poo poo all about IT, i dont know if this is still (or ever was) the case.

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Dave_Indeed
Feb 22, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

frytechnician posted:

When I was doing IT recuitment... Since i know poo poo all about IT

Accurate.

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