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Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

s.i.r.e. posted:

I'm about an hour and a half into it and I'm at the part where you go into the basement and there's a bunch of those regenerator looking dudes and you have to get the Dissection room key. How am I supposed to get passed this? I can skip the one that comes out of the incinerator since he just tanks my pistol like nothing but there's 2 in the next room, then 3 at the same time in the one after it. I run out of bullets before they all die and the pocketknife is worthless. This poo poo is really pissing me off, I've died several times just trying to manage all of it and other than that I love this game but all this action, right off the bat, is really killing it for me.

It took me a bit to get past that.

If you're at that part at all, you can go into the morgue and get the scorpion key. That lets you go back into the house to the second floor and get the broken shotgun from Grandma's Room. Swap that out with the shotgun in the Civil War-looking statue off the foyer for the shotgun, which is a lot more effective against the Moulded than the pistol will ever be, especially if you can score a clean headshot or two.

Also, the enemies are too stupid to handle doors, so the old Resident Evil dodge-and-run is fully viable, particularly in the two areas before the Dissection Room.

The game is lousy with health and ammo if you go back to older areas with psychodrugs and look around. Some of them are hidden pretty well.

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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



At what point can you use the coins? No spoilers if possible, I'm at the point where I just got the last of the three dog heads to open the dog door.

Dog Fat Man Chaser
Jan 13, 2009

maybe being miserable
is not unpredictable
maybe that's
the problem
with me

Vince MechMahon posted:

At what point can you use the coins? No spoilers if possible, I'm at the point where I just got the last of the three dog heads to open the dog door.

Literally the very next area you go.

Got two hours in, stopped at the point I just mentioned. Game's great, they nailed the feel.

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Let the baddies have their say and take a good look around before you blow through all your ammo if it is having zero effect.

Is this a constant or just the opening bits that seem super scripted? That is (not sarcasm) a pretty hard dealbreaker for me. Does it at least checkpoint before the scripting so you can suicide to get your ammo back?

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Mailer posted:

Is this a constant or just the opening bits that seem super scripted? That is (not sarcasm) a pretty hard dealbreaker for me. Does it at least checkpoint before the scripting so you can suicide to get your ammo back?

It's less scripted and more that you seem to be in a house where there are several Lisa Trevor's running around. And like her, or Nemesis, there's only certain, scripted encounters where you can actually stop them. The checkpointing is pretty good for the actual scripted encounters.

Mindblast
Jun 28, 2006

Moving at the speed of death.


Mailer posted:

Is this a constant or just the opening bits that seem super scripted? That is (not sarcasm) a pretty hard dealbreaker for me. Does it at least checkpoint before the scripting so you can suicide to get your ammo back?

Based on what I've seen so far if you don't like enemies that are hard/impossible to damage this doesn't seem like the kind of game for you.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


I found out why thefamily wentcrazy




being a browns fan

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

Mindblast posted:

Based on what I've seen so far if you don't like enemies that are hard/impossible to damage this doesn't seem like the kind of game for you.

I don't mind "this is a scary enemy oh poo poo hidehidehide". Siren is easily on my lifetime top five list. What I don't like is meeting John Q Zombie and sometimes it's running and sometimes it's fighting and the only way to tell which is which is to expend all rounds and then reload your game. That sort of arbitrary play-by-FAQ poo poo sucks. No idea how this compares to Nemesis because I just realized it's the only numbered game I never played for some reason.

It's already purchased and downloading so the whole thing is a moot point anyway. I just hate turning off games two hours in because my need to play a video game clashed with some guy's ~cinematic vision~.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

It's really not difficult to tell whether or not you should run away from something or fight it.

If you can hide from it and the doors are not locked or impeding progress in any way you run away

If everything is locked and you cannot return from where you came from then you fight

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog
As for the basement, I found that kneecapping the not-regenerators made them a great deal easier to finish off. 3-4 shots to a leg will take it out, followed by another 4-ish to the head seems to do the trick (watch out for the fish-flop lunge). Don't bother going after other limbs once they're down; as far as I could tell turning them into a head-on-a-torso doesnt' kill them and with no arms they just leap all over the place.

Also I haven't seen much use for the knife so far. It took far too many thrusts to kill a de-legged monster and he was launching at me the entire time. Anyone have different results with it?

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
The knife, in the proud series tradition (except for CV), is largely there to smash crates with. I haven't seen it do more than annoy anything else.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Actually the knife is great against the enemies until you get shotgun, 3/4 shots to the legs then do the stab attack to it's head while it's on the ground and it will instantly die. The real problem can be landing the stab as the hitbox is kinda weird if they aren't lunging right at you. Once you do have the shotgun though, in true classic RE fashion, get up close and aim up at the head to instantly kill it that way.

My major complaint so far is that while there are times you are expected to run and hide, it really feels like the AI just kinda homes in around you and it's really only a matter of time until you're forced into a fight anyway, if any of you have played Alien Isolation imagine that except without the ability to hide in lockers or getting under things, so you're basically just shoving yourself into corners and humping up against furniture until whatever you're hiding from goes away. A way to lean out to peek out of cover would be a godsend, although i suppose that's one of the perks of playing with VR.

I also must show my love for Jack, best goddamn villain ever man, no way the rest of the family can top him :allears:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Resident Evil 7: OH GOD THERE'S TOO MANY loving BUGS GET 'EM OFF ME :stonk:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
PC or PS4?

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Lid posted:

PC or PS4?
PS4 Pro.

Not as in glitches, but as in insects swarming all the gently caress around me.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
No i mean which would be better to get RE on

PS4 or PC

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Lid posted:

No i mean which would be better to get RE on

PS4 or PC

Do you have PSVR? If yes, PS4. If not, PC.

Mr President
Nov 13, 2016

by Lowtax
How the hell am I supposed to explore and solve puzzles if I have this god drat hick constantly chasing me??

plape tickler
Oct 21, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mr President posted:

How the hell am I supposed to explore and solve puzzles if I have this god drat hick constantly chasing me??

It's fairly easy to get far enough away from him that stops actively hunting you. Also you can run to the safe room to reset him.

Mr President
Nov 13, 2016

by Lowtax

plape tickler posted:

It's fairly easy to get far enough away from him that stops actively hunting you. Also you can run to the safe room to reset him.

I ran to the other wing of the house and after a few minutes he shows up where I'm at and starts looking for me. I went to the safe house and he's still wandering around. I even killed him but he got up after a few minutes and kept coming after me. I dont get how you progress unless you already know exactly what to do and speed run through it.

It reminds me of the exact same problem I had with Alien Isolation and is probably the biggest flaw in an otherwise great so far game.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
I do think this game is a pain in the rear end on PS4 due to the need for increasingly precise shots to specific weak points, but fortunately, later weapons make that a bit less vital.

Mr President posted:

How the hell am I supposed to explore and solve puzzles if I have this god drat hick constantly chasing me??

If he can't find you, he eventually wanders away and lets you interact with puzzles again.

If you're talking about the beginning of the game, fake him out, run to the end of the hallway, grab the key that unlocks the hatch, then fake back around him and drop down to evade him for the time being.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Lid posted:

No i mean which would be better to get RE on

PS4 or PC

If you have a PS4 Pro and a 4k TV with HDR, that's the way to go.

Actually its really the way to go no matter what to me; its a short game that I'll be trading in instantly.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

I'm sort of enjoying this, but every time the game pits me against an enemy of some sort it really starts to suck. I have enjoyed other first person horror games like Amnesia etc, but the weapons and fighting in this feel so terrible. Hopefully there's not too much of that sort of thing.


Edit: The death animations take way too long. Especially since you'll be seeing them a lot, thanks to the lovely controls.

Gunder fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jan 24, 2017

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler
so i'm at the part where lucas says get these keycards fucko and im getting real tired of finding granny every which way. hell she was sitting right next to items i needed to interact with and i was 100% expecting a jumpscare, but naw, she just looks at you

also agreed, jack is the best villain short of wesker and i wish he didn't punk out so soon, even with that rad as hell chainsaw fight

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



So is the magnum worth backtracking for? I"m currently In Lucas' segment and i found my 9th coin going through his loving funhouse exploding crates that look like normal ones bullshit I'd rather not waste my time going all the way back for it if the game is nearly over like i think it is.

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

So is the magnum worth backtracking for? I"m currently In Lucas' segment and i found my 9th coin going through his loving funhouse exploding crates that look like normal ones bullshit I'd rather not waste my time going all the way back for it if the game is nearly over like i think it is.

the magnum has some stopping power that can be useful in the upcoming sections, yeah, but if you're really stocked up on shotgun and grenade launcher ammo you may not need to get it. if you're on madhouse i would recommend it personally

i think there's a cheevo for finding all 20 coins though if you care about that, more in madhouse i think?

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
I know that RE protags tend to have endurance at least on par with the latest brand of monster, but is there any indication as to how supposedly normal dude Ethan Winters can have his hand chopped off and react with nothing more then an annoyed grunt and maybe pouring some peroxide directly on the gushing stump? And then have it loving stapled back on, completely restoring it?

I feel like he already one upped the Bakers in the durability catagory is what I'm saying.

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler
huh there's an achievement for beating the game in 4 hours

im real curious how low speedrunners can get it with an optimal path

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



boy are my arms tired posted:

the magnum has some stopping power that can be useful in the upcoming sections, yeah, but if you're really stocked up on shotgun and grenade launcher ammo you may not need to get it. if you're on madhouse i would recommend it personally

i think there's a cheevo for finding all 20 coins though if you care about that, more in madhouse i think?

Ah so this basically like the part in Remake where you just dump the pistol in favor of using just the shotgun and grenade launcher the rest of the game? i feel like the pistol stays relevant with the high grade ammo being a thing though.

Is there any oppertunity at all to go back to the trailer or is it basically a one way street?

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
DLC info

quote:

The first pack, Banned Footage Vol. 1, will be available starting January 31 for $9.99, and includes two tapes as well as a new mode:
Bedroom: Figure out how to escape from a locked room — but don’t let Marguerite Baker know you’ve been out of bed.
Nightmare: Fend off waves of enemies and survive until morning while crafting useful items and traps to stay alive.
Extra Mode: Ethan Must Die: A tough-as-nails mode separate from the tapes and story of the main game. (Does not support PS VR).

The second pack, Banned Footage Vol. 2, will be available starting February 14 for $14.99, and includes two more tapes as well as a new mode:
21: Gamble life and limb in a deadly game run by Lucas Baker.
Daughters: See what the Baker family was like before the tragic events of Resident Evil 7 biohazard.
Extra Mode: Jack’s 55th Birthday: Race against the clock and feed Jack tons of food in this comical extra game mode separate from the tapes and story of the main game.(Does not support PS VR)

Quicker than i thought, tho they are ps4 exclusive, dunno if that includes PC. Either way, these extra modes sound amazing. Nightmare seems like your mercs/raid style mode.

also, fyi, the free story dlc in May and there is supposed to be another paid story dlc later, but the wording on the offical site is confusing and seems to suggest that the paid dlc is now the free one in may, so who knows?

edit: xbox and pc get both packs on February 21.

Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jan 24, 2017

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Ah so this basically like the part in Remake where you just dump the pistol in favor of using just the shotgun and grenade launcher the rest of the game? i feel like the pistol stays relevant with the high grade ammo being a thing though.

Is there any oppertunity at all to go back to the trailer or is it basically a one way street?

e: i misread, i'm not as far as you so i don't know if you can make it back to the trailer, but i would imagine there's a path


Vikar Jerome posted:

DLC info


Quicker than i thought, tho they are ps4 exclusive, dunno if that includes PC. Either way, these extra modes sound amazing. Nightmare seems like your mercs/raid style mode.

also, fyi, the free story dlc in May and there is supposed to be another paid story dlc later, but the wording on the offical site is confusing and seems to suggest that the paid dlc is now the free one in may, so who knows?

Bedroom sounds very FNAF to me, not sure why since i doubt they'd go that route
Nightmare sounds like raid mode ,yeah
Ethan Must Die sounds rad as hell

I guess the only thing I'm not super keen on is Extra Mode because i don't want to stuff Jack full of food but hey

Floor is lava
May 14, 2007

Fallen Rib
PC version is Dishonored 2 levels of jank. I had to fiddle with the setting for a while to get it feeling serviceable. Turning off interlaced mode and setting it to normal causes the screen to shake by 1 pixel nonstop. Locking the framerate to 60 causes all kinds of issues. If your framerate drops below 60 the game actually plays in slow motion and causes huge desync issues in cutscenes where audio was playing 5-6 seconds behind. So leave that poo poo on variable.

Other than those issues it's been ok. Made it to the first save pint before going to bed. Very spoopy.

Question Time
Sep 12, 2010



The complaints about the combat make me think I should restart the game on easy, I could never beat the original resident evil because I'm bad at this sort of game. I have trouble dealing with the low mobility, and don't like dying a lot.

Mesothelioma
Jan 6, 2009

Your favorite mineral related cancer!
how's the PC port?

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Anyone watching a good stream? I could use one to kill time at work and twitch is either VR, Japanese or utterly dire players.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Wanderer posted:

It took me a bit to get past that.

If you're at that part at all, you can go into the morgue and get the scorpion key. That lets you go back into the house to the second floor and get the broken shotgun from Grandma's Room. Swap that out with the shotgun in the Civil War-looking statue off the foyer for the shotgun, which is a lot more effective against the Moulded than the pistol will ever be, especially if you can score a clean headshot or two.

Also, the enemies are too stupid to handle doors, so the old Resident Evil dodge-and-run is fully viable, particularly in the two areas before the Dissection Room.

The game is lousy with health and ammo if you go back to older areas with psychodrugs and look around. Some of them are hidden pretty well.

I've got around 40 shots at this part and I've drained them all, mostly trying to go for headshots. Also, am I crazy or are some of the enemies more resilient to headshots? The first two in this area go down easily with three, but the others seem to take more but I don't see any difference between the enemies. I know the one that comes out with the Dissection Room Key has the big :fuckoff: arm so I just run away from him, but the rest all seem to be the same but their heal values are changed. Also, I tried running but I didn't have much luck in the orange room where there's three of them as the door on the other end was locked and I wasn't able to use the key but maybe I just hosed it all up.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

man nurse posted:





This game loving rules

poo poo, maybe I will play this. I scare easily when it comes to horror games but I always appreciate a goofy sense of humor.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


I loved the demo of this. The mix of Alien Isolation with Gone Home was pretty great + the game looked awesome. How much does the full experience differ from the demo when it comes to what you actually do? Is exploration as cool as it was there where you could find hidden ways to solve things/alternate routes if you poked around enough? Do boss fights suck as much as the reviewers say?

Sheen Sheen
Nov 18, 2002
Game loving owns, can't wait to get off work and play more.

Regarding boss fights--I've gone through the first two so far and was pleasantly surprised with how much I liked them, given how reviews seemed to single them out as being particularly weak. I basically turned into the living embodiment of :magical: when Jack got into his car and started careening around the garage trying to run me over

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boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

Palpek posted:

I loved the demo of this. The mix of Alien Isolation with Gone Home was pretty great + the game looked awesome. How much does the full experience differ from the demo when it comes to what you actually do? Is exploration as cool as it was there where you could find hidden ways to solve things/alternate routes if you poked around enough? Do boss fights suck as much as the reviewers say?

The boss fights are really interesting because (for the second one) it's more puzzle than fight, and for the first, third and fourth ones, they're brawls but there's still tricks to make them go simpler and doesn't take much to figure out mid-fight. I really enjoyed them. I would argue that the fourth fight is the weakest of the bunch from my experience, because there's a lot of downtime spread throughout the fight.

The full experience is much the same of the demo in that there will be monsters that pop up and you can either run past them or fight them, hidden items literally all over the place, including hidden treasures that you will assuredly miss on your first go around (and then backtrack for when you find the treasure photos; i think they stay the same so subsequent runs will be much smoother), collectibles that are very easily missed (seriously, going back over the earlier parts of the game with psychoactives, which let you see hidden items, is crazy full of stuff i missed)

They really nailed the exploration, backtracking, and level design of RE1/2 with this; it's just the right amount to be interesting.

e: Also I watched someone do the first four fights on Madhouse difficulty and hoo boy the fourth one looks particularly lovely compared to normal mode

boy are my arms tired fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jan 24, 2017

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