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SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Smythe posted:

not sure if they covered this subj in hebrew school op but it sounds cool. good find. lets send this baby upstairs to the scholars

it sounds like they've been over it for a pretty long time already

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Seems pretty reasonable.

I don't know, it bugs me when people re-interpret the bible just because they don't like what it says. "Oh, it must be pretty easy for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, otherwise it's saying I shouldn't be rich?"

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

Maybe Ham was making fun of Noah's tiny penis, and the other brothers were careful not to look because they knew if they saw it they would never be able to respect him again.

Les Os
Mar 29, 2010
the Curse of Ham is the name of my butcher shop

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
the Curse of Ham will be my cause of death

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
I think they dped him with the "Hamcannon".

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
He told everyone around the village Noah was compensating with his big boat, really hammed it up

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Evangelicals believe the curse of Ham is why black people deserve to be slaves.

cnut
May 3, 2016

hosed up if true.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Candlelight Virgil posted:

I think they dped him with the "Hamcannon".
The Ham canon is exactly what this thread is trying to figure out.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



nig noah tryin to get a ham beezy

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
Turns out there was a translation error: Noah wasn't ham-handed, he was ham fisted

Over There
Jun 28, 2013

by Azathoth

poverty goat posted:

nig noah tryin to get a ham beezy

Stay safe poverty goat

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
Ham got reincarnated as Azure_Horizon

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

scrubs season six posted:

If I had a time machine with only one use I'd go back to witness the Noah rape. Or dinosaurs maybe.

Good news! Noah and the dinosaurs existed at the same time so you can do both at once! fun fact: ham actually WAS a dinosaur

Dubplate Fire
Aug 1, 2010

:hfive: bruvs be4 luvs
When I was 7 in Hebrew school for the first time they explained it to me that Noah got raped by his son. As punishment for this rape, his son turned into the first black man. Needless to say I transferred Hebrew schools shortly after explaining the story and pointing out the plot holes to my mother.

edit: The pillar of salt bullshit really pissed me off too. P. much every story in the old Testament is super hosed. Like if this is god i'm siding with the devil!

Dubplate Fire fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jul 19, 2017

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Blazing Ownager posted:

You see, it wasn't Lot's fault he plowed both his daughters. The evil harlots tricked him with wine!

Of course, gently caress their mother she made the mistake of turning around and was told not to so bam, pillar of salt for her! That's a way worse offense.

There's only one sin, and that's disobeying God's commands.

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Jul 24, 2007

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poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Dubplate Fire posted:

When I was 7 in Hebrew school for the first time they explained it to me that Noah got raped by his son. As punishment for this rape, his son turned into the first black man. Needless to say I transferred Hebrew schools shortly after explaining the story and pointing out the plot holes to my mother.

edit: The pillar of salt bullshit really pissed me off too. P. much every story in the old Testament is super hosed. Like if this is god i'm siding with the devil!

yeah are we gonna side with the cool snake who wants to give us forbidden knowledge or this rear end in a top hat who kills off large swathes of human civilization periodically and blames us for it like a cosmic game of "stop hitting yourself"

Dubplate Fire
Aug 1, 2010

:hfive: bruvs be4 luvs

poverty goat posted:

yeah are we gonna side with the cool snake who wants to give us forbidden knowledge or this rear end in a top hat who kills off large swathes of human civilization periodically and blames us for it like a cosmic game of "stop hitting yourself"

For real, God literally demanded that Abraham kill his first born son to prove to Satan how devoted Abraham is. Satan was like "dude, don't do this poo poo, like think about the poo poo he's asking you to do." Then at the end of course god is all like, "hahaha just playin, you almost did it tho, pay up Satan, that'll be 100 sheckles." Like what in the actual gently caress. He might've actually let him do it if Satan wasn't there to try and talk some sense into the dude.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Dubplate Fire posted:

When I was 7 in Hebrew school for the first time they explained it to me that Noah got raped by his son. As punishment for this rape, his son turned into the first black man. Needless to say I transferred Hebrew schools shortly after explaining the story and pointing out the plot holes to my mother.

edit: The pillar of salt bullshit really pissed me off too. P. much every story in the old Testament is super hosed. Like if this is god i'm siding with the devil!

Old Testament Satan is basically God's attorney general. Satan only really becomes the villain around the time god has a kid and mellows out

Dubplate Fire
Aug 1, 2010

:hfive: bruvs be4 luvs

fruit on the bottom posted:

Old Testament Satan is basically God's attorney general. Satan only really becomes the villain around the time god has a kid and mellows out

Yeah, it's different dudes, actually, but that complicates things when trying to riff on the Something Awful Forums.

edit: The serpent was never Satan, either they retconned that. He was just a regular old Chinese dragon or some poo poo who turned into a snake after talking some sense into Eve.

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Oct 15, 2012

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With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
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Dubplate Fire posted:

For real, God literally demanded that Abraham kill his first born son to prove to Satan how devoted Abraham is. Satan was like "dude, don't do this poo poo, like think about the poo poo he's asking you to do." Then at the end of course god is all like, "hahaha just playin, you almost did it tho, pay up Satan, that'll be 100 sheckles." Like what in the actual gently caress. He might've actually let him do it if Satan wasn't there to try and talk some sense into the dude.

Satan doesn't show up in this story. You're thinking of Job and Satan is the one who makes the wager

Dubplate Fire
Aug 1, 2010

:hfive: bruvs be4 luvs

fruit on the bottom posted:

Satan doesn't show up in this story. You're thinking of Job and Satan is the one who makes the wager

Oh I dunno I was 7 when I learned this poo poo.

edit: I don't even know who Job is. Is that the whale dude?

double edit: I skimmed it, and I was mixing up the two stories together. Either way, Hail Satan!

Dubplate Fire fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jul 19, 2017

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
[about to kill my first born son n God shows up]

"I've made a huge mistake!!"

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Nah, that's the dude that's happy and successful and Satan is like "he only loves you because his life is perfect. If you made his life a living hell and destroyed everything he loved he'd turn on you in a second" and god is like "we'll see about that"


And the whole thing ends on a mostly unsatisfactory note where Job accuses god of not understanding what it's like to be tiny and insignificant on a cosmic scale and god points out that Job doesn't understand what it's like to be constantly sustaining existence itself and making reality possible. Then god gives just back his health, status, and riches, and gives him a new family to replace the one he killed.

Then he punishes Job's "friends" who spent the entire story insisting that Job must be a real shithead because bad things only happen to bad people and even God is sick of them at this point.

It's a whole book of the Bible. Last I read, the scholarly thinking was that the book was written as fiction (like deliberately so) and that's one of the reasons it's considered a "wisdom" book rather than a "history" one.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

Dubplate Fire posted:

Yeah, it's different dudes, actually, but that complicates things when trying to riff on the Something Awful Forums.

edit: The serpent was never Satan, either they retconned that. He was just a regular old Chinese dragon or some poo poo who turned into a snake after talking some sense into Eve.

What if Eve was Satan???

Dubplate Fire
Aug 1, 2010

:hfive: bruvs be4 luvs

fruit on the bottom posted:

Nah, that's the dude that's happy and successful and Satan is like "he only loves you because his life is perfect. If you made his life a living hell and destroyed everything he loved he'd turn on you in a second" and god is like "we'll see about that"


And the whole thing ends on a mostly unsatisfactory note where Job accuses god of not understanding what it's like to be tiny and insignificant on a cosmic scale and god points out that Job doesn't understand what it's like to be constantly sustaining existence itself and making reality possible. Then god gives just back his health, status, and riches, and gives him a new family to replace the one he killed.

Then he punishes Job's "friends" who spent the entire story insisting that Job must be a real shithead because bad things only happen to bad people and even God is sick of them at this point.

It's a whole book of the Bible. Last I read, the scholarly thinking was that the book was written as fiction (like deliberately so) and that's one of the reasons it's considered a "wisdom" book rather than a "history" one.

A real rabbi will say the whole thing is fiction, tbh.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
I love my dead gay ham

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

myDad posted:

[about to kill my first born son n God shows up]

"I've made a huge mistake!!"

Panel 1: god busting into real world
Panel 2: god speaking to Abraham's wife
Panel 3: god saying "don't do it bro" to Abraham
Panel 4: Abraham raising a knife over prone body.

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

Who What Now posted:

Evangelicals believe the curse of Ham is why black people deserve to be slaves.

The curse of Ham is why jews can't eat pig.

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice

Colonel Cancer posted:

Panel 1: god busting into real world
Panel 2: god speaking to Abraham's wife
Panel 3: god saying "don't do it bro" to Abraham
Panel 4: Abraham raising a knife over prone body.

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
Turns out the gross incest porn isn't new I guess.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Feminasty Slut posted:

Turns out the gross incest porn isn't new I guess.

Sounds like someone didn't read their bible

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
The bible is impossible to read, so I can't comment OP.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

Moon Atari posted:

Maybe Ham was making fun of Noah's tiny penis, and the other brothers were careful not to look because they knew if they saw it they would never be able to respect him again.

Whoever wrote that story had a tiny penis and wrote it as a bedtime story for his kids. "So whatever you do kids, if your father is drinking and falls asleep on the couch with his pants down, don't look at his cock! And especially don't tell anyone what you saw!"

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Blue Train posted:

Good news! Noah and the dinosaurs existed at the same time so you can do both at once! fun fact: ham actually WAS a dinosaur

Noah got raped by a triceratop's cloaca.

Two Free Toppings
Jul 1, 2007

SUCK
THE
SHIT
OUT
OF
MY
OWN
ASSHOLE

Buce posted:

youre thinking of the acopropha

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

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eSports Chaebol posted:

am i the only one who thinks "ham, shem, and japheth" sounds like the names of the ancient three stooges

i mean i guess they kind of were

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Dubplate Fire posted:

When I was 7 in Hebrew school for the first time they explained it to me that Noah got raped by his son. As punishment for this rape, his son turned into the first black man. Needless to say I transferred Hebrew schools shortly after explaining the story and pointing out the plot holes to my mother.

edit: The pillar of salt bullshit really pissed me off too. P. much every story in the old Testament is super hosed. Like if this is god i'm siding with the devil!

Some idiots were using this passage as a justification for slavery because they thought Ham was black.

Wiki posted:

Some modern scholars have argued that the story's original purpose was to justify the subjection of the Canaanite people to the Israelites,[4] but in later centuries, the narrative was interpreted by some Jews, Christians, and Muslims as an explanation for black skin, as well as slavery.[5] Nevertheless, most Christians, Muslims and Jews now disagree with such interpretations, because in the biblical text, Ham himself is not cursed, and race or skin color is never mentioned.[6]

But nothing says Ham is black. He just happens to have a name that is similar to the word for "dark".

Wiki posted:

While Genesis 9 never says that Ham was black, he became associated with black skin, through folk etymology deriving his name from a similar, but actually unconnected, word meaning "dark" or "brown".[37]

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