rezatahs posted:

i thought it was going to be a compilation of all your gbs threads

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Mensa International, was founded by Roland Berrill and Lancelot Ware, who noted from their first conversation that although they came from different backgrounds, they were able to communicate and had much in common. They hypothesized that what they had in common was intelligence, and decided to see if a society of people selected for intelligence (using the only means available, IQ tests) would also have much in common.[5][6]

They decided to focus on people whose IQ test scores would place them at or above the 98th percentile.

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In the late 1930s Leta Stetter Hollingworth's research examined people with unusually high Stanford-Binet IQ scores. Starting in the early 1960s, when the now-defunct MM was started,[7] there were attempts to form high-IQ societies for people scoring at similar levels on then-current tests. The International Society for Philosophical Enquiry and the Triple Nine Society were founded in the 1970s and still exist today. Their membership requirements were intended to accept one person in one thousand from the general population. Restricting entry still further was difficult; no tests have ever reliably discriminated among test-takers with more selectivity. The paucity of data on persons with unusually high IQ scores, by definition, made ensuring the reliability of such scores very difficult.[8][9] High IQ scores are less reliable than IQ scores nearer to the population median.[10]


There were two possible ways to overcome this obstacle. Either the raw data from standardized tests could be obtained and determination could be made if they could be normalized to Hollingworth’s levels, or new tests could be designed and normalized. In the late 1970s, it was the latter approach that was followed. Kevin Langdon and Ronald Hoeflin both developed high-range, untimed tests. Langdon claimed that his Langdon Adult Intelligence Test had a ceiling at the one-in-a-million level (176 IQ [or 171 using the academic-standard 15-point-per-standard-deviation system], or 4.75 standard deviations above the mean). Hoeflin claimed a considerably higher ceiling but the Langdon and Hoeflin tests are closely comparable, with Hoeflin's tests having ceilings only one or two points higher than Langdon's.[11] These tests were given to a pool of about thirty thousand test-takers, recruited through Omni magazine, and the resulting data were used to develop norms. Langdon equated means and standard deviations; Hoeflin used equipercentile equating.[12] Using these tests and norms, Ronald Hoeflin founded the Prometheus Society in 1982.[13] It was the second society to select for the top one in thirty thousand, the first being Kevin Langdon's Four Sigma Society, founded in 1976.[14]

The pool of members was always limited by the number of people who had taken the Langdon and Hoeflin tests, and it was further limited when, in the 1990s, answers for some test questions were put on the Internet. However, there existed a large pool of potential members as tens of millions of people had taken standardized exams such as the SAT, which were, in effect, IQ tests. The problem was to normalize them. In 1999, Prometheus formed a committee of ten members, many of them experts in psychometrics, to attempt this task. The committee produced a long report examining all reputable intelligence tests, determining which tests could screen at the four-sigma level (four standard deviations above the mean of a normal distribution), above 99.9966%, and what the appropriate scores should be.[dubious – discuss] This report recommended that members be chosen based on scores in several widely known and researched standardized tests, including the SAT, the GRE, the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale, Cattell Culture Fair III, and others. This greatly expanded the number of possible members. Today, the number of members hovers around a hundred.

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No professionally designed and validated IQ test claims to distinguish test-takers at a one-in-a-million level of rarity of score. The standard score range of the Stanford-Binet IQ test is 40 to 160.[5] The standard scores on most other currently normed IQ tests fall in the same range. A score of 160 corresponds to a rarity of about 1 person in 30,000 (leaving aside the issue of error of measurement common to all IQ tests), which falls short of the Mega Society's 1 in a million requirement.[6] IQ scores above this level are dubious as there are insufficient normative cases upon which to base a statistically justified rank-ordering.[7][8] High IQ scores are less reliable than IQ scores nearer to the population median.[9]

The Mega Society accepts members on the basis of untimed, unsupervised IQ tests that the test author claims have been normalized using standard statistical methods. There is controversy about whether these tests have been properly validated.[10] The Mega test specifically is described as a "nonstandardized test" by a psychologist who wrote a 2012 book on the history of IQ testing.[11]

a hole-y ghost posted:

Well yeah but they get to learn stuff and if you try to paint one of those huge things all by yourself chances are you'll change so much over the course of it it will look inconsistent. I've been one of those intern guys

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Ayyyyy yo Pick you single still baby? PM me let's do dumb poo poo together 😘

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

everything you've ever done OP

except none of it is amusingly stupid, just stupid

Guy Mann posted:

Modern science can't even really define or quantify intelligence let alone measure it on some objective scale

Regrettable posted:

How the gently caress do you smoke six packs a day? You'd have to have a cigarette in your mouth from the second you woke up until the second you went to sleep.

e: Assuming you slept 8 hours a night, that's 7.5 per hour. That means you'd be lighting one every 8 minutes.

Prince of Space posted:

Regrettable posted:

How the gently caress do you smoke six packs a day? You'd have to have a cigarette in your mouth from the second you woke up until the second you went to sleep.

e: Assuming you slept 8 hours a night, that's 7.5 per hour. That means you'd be lighting one every 8 minutes.

Prince of Space posted:

The Dennis System posted:

Incorrect.

Guy Mann posted:

Remember that time when Howard Hughes accidentally killed a good chunk of golden age Hollywood by shooting a film on nuclear testing sites and then paying to have the radioactive dirt trucked back to Hollywood for reshoots? I really hope somebody was fired for that blunder!

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Naw they're basically right. That's not to say IQ tests have no value, though. They're extremely useful for telling if you're mentally impaired after a brain injury or disease, and if so, by how much.

Pick posted:

Lonos Oboe posted:

I admire a guy who:

A. Has the manner & class to bring a custard pie.

B. Has the self restraint not to huck it at the first soul they see.

C. Can convey it around whilst in formal dress without creating alarm.

D. Does not choke at the final meridian.

Strudel Man posted:

That seems an implausible position, since it's well known to be a strong predictor of success in academics and work.

This meta-analysis finds that it's a better predictor of academic and professional achievement and income than parental education, income, or SES.

Orkin Mang posted:

my iq is 60 000 points large. suck my lumpy loving brain folds and poo poo, jackasses

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Oh yeah well I scored a 155 on an IQ test administered by a qualified psychometrician and I'm a total loser. Don't you look like a dumbass now?

Strudel Man posted:

Nah, they're only correlations, not prophecies.

High-IQ societies are still pretty dumb, but it's not because iq isn't real, it's just because it's only an identity if someone has nothing else going on. Like joining a society for tall people.

Nigmaetcetera posted:

How tall would you have to be to get into one of these societies? Could somebody from the US join, say, the Japanese chapter but get their membership card printed in English?

Nigmaetcetera posted:

I believe this man's brain is both lumpier and wrinklier than most people's, and that these unique physical features are responsible for his clearly enhanced cognition.

Orkin Mang posted:

thanks.i was sent by my village elder to a frenologist in rotterdamn. he did a research upon me...his conclusion? my brain was 'king of the walnuts' whcich in lingo means of the highest genius; and the quality of my eyesight double 20/20 like the 'deadliest eagle from prehistoric times'. he said my ideal occupation for when i grew up (i was 3 at the time)would be marine sniper/genius

Fantastic Flyer posted:

Wow, that's amazing. What occupation did you end up taking?

Orkin Mang posted:

thanks.i was sent by my village elder to a frenologist in rotterdamn. he did a research upon me...his conclusion? my brain was 'king of the walnuts' whcich in lingo means of the highest genius; and the quality of my eyesight double 20/20 like the 'deadliest eagle from prehistoric times'. he said my ideal occupation for when i grew up (i was 3 at the time)would be marine sniper/genius

Guy Mann posted:

High IQ societies are a fun hole to get lost in. Modern science can't even really define or quantify intelligence let alone measure it on some objective scale yet there is always someone who swears that they've figured out how to separate the true intellectual aristocracy from the untermenschen and it just happens to place them at the very tippy top.