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Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
I just got hired on as a junior quantbasre specialst. It's my first job since hatching from my edupod. I'm grateful for this opportunity :gerty:

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Theanael
Jun 21, 2019
Me ? I'm just the janitor.
start mopping the floor

vorebane
Feb 2, 2009

"I like Ur and Kavodel and Enki being nice to people for some reason."

Wrong Voter amongst wrong voters
I'm a stowaway! My favourite colour is breen!!

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.
I ate a guy.

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.
Oh - my favorite color is insides.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Lets be friends :blush:

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



I'm not actually supposed to be here, you guys forgot to drop me off last time I got abducted.

Well, I've been here for too long now, everyone back home is dead. I'm just lucky the food seems to make me immortal.

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

I'm gonna be honest, I dunno
Just kinda flipped through some ChronoSnaps(TM) job offers and thought this era looked neat
so guess I'm a hired temp from the fourth dimension

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
I am:

A: A subgame infiltrator.
B: A genegeneering specialist looking to pad my CV
C: The next stage of management up, slumming it to see what those in my demesne are actually doing.
D: Write in.

My favorite color is:

E: Red.
F: Ultragreen.
G: Nurplesplort
H: Write in.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

AJ_Impy posted:

I am:

A: A subgame infiltrator.
B: A genegeneering specialist looking to pad my CV
C: The next stage of management up, slumming it to see what those in my demesne are actually doing.
D: Write in.

My favorite color is:

E: Red.
F: Ultragreen.
G: Nurplesplort
H: Write in.

well well well, the tables are turned.

Personally, I refuse to hyperpigeonhole myself by imagining that my job is the biggest part of myself or even a major one. You could say I'm a slime enthusiast, and I like all the colors.

Scribbleykins
Apr 29, 2010

Any scientist with the right background can brew his own booze.

...

What do you mean electrolytes aren't used for brewing booze? That's silly!

...

Well when all you have are chunks of TNE and an overly large water ration, all the world looks like a still!
Grimey Drawer
*MA⅃ƧЯOOႧ TƎƧԳU*

"RED! AND I'M STILL VERY ANGRY!"

*UPSET DOORSLAM*

Swedish Thaumocracy
Jul 11, 2006

Strength of >800 Men
Honor of 0
Grimey Drawer
Evosolution Inc
Y 0.250b
Vega System





Welcome back designers! Looks like A LOT of things have happened in the last few million years! Let's go check it out, and I'll give you a rundown!




First off, Secundus is basically covered in moonslime, what with it having no natural predators and plenty of resources to grow. No big deal, right? Wrong! Remember, variety is key! Looks like we need some sort of Moongrazer to keep this slime in check.
Secundus can't support an atmosphere, so keep that in mind with your designs, ok?


The mindmold has no real mind of its own, but it has taken a liking to those crystal formations... ah, it's probably nothing.


Oh! A COMPLICATION! Looks like Secundus was hit by a meteor in the interm. No real harm done, catching meteors are what moons are for after all, but it revealed even more of those crystals.
Perhaps you could design something to take advantage of these new resources, before the mindmold hogs it all?



Alright! Looks like the Yellowish-Magsnails and Lavaworms and Lavaspouts are doing OK. The Purplish Magsnails have shrunk a whole lot in an effort to get away from all the predators, but that is too be expected. Nothing weird so far!
Oh, hey, look at that! Looks like we got some Sphereoops that have taken to the skies on the stinkwinds that cover Vega4! Neat, our first true avians! Well done team, and so early too!
We've even got some amphibians, with the new Waterbugs haven taken up residence on the obsidian shores, far away from the terrorbears below.


But oh, another COMPLICATION! The new Stinkosphere is bad business all around, it's basically 90% sulphur and its a wonder the whole surface hasn't caught fire yet. The Sporest in particular seems hard pressed; it has taken to clinging to the mountain ranges where the Stinkosphere is thinnest.
We need something to mitigate the horrible stink before something terrible happens; like The Client choosing another planet that doesn't smell so bad.



The Great Stinkkoralreef is home to many a critter, Terrorbears being the Apex Predator with Sphereoops being the Apex Prey, if you can call them that. The old new waterbugs have entirely given up on moving around and have instead attached themselves to the vents, and it looks like we have some variant-invaders from the surface! Obsidian Worms now roam the seafloor around the vents, preying on the aforementioned ventbugs. Other than that we have patches of rotgrass to spice up the colour palette of the area, making for a nice starter seafloor garden.


But, OH NO! A Complication! It looks like the Pruneprawns have gone cancerous! That is to say, they evolved into crabs. That's a major no-no; crabs are already ubiquitous on most life sustaining planets, it's an evolutionary dead-end! We've been there, done that! Crabs aren't variety, they're just crabs.
Quick, design something to force them to adapt to something that isn't a crab!

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.
If the stink is on fire it will

Set things on fire

Maybe it will fix the smell I don't know

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Well, for the secondary, slimes that incorporate rocks or crystal shards into their tissues will be able to form a mineral sclerite framework that should allow them to move around the surface instead of being permanently rooted. This would take a lot of energy though, they might have to start eating other slimes.

two birds with one stone for the primary as well. Prune crabs will instead use their feathery pincers to filter stank emissions at the source, becoming stationary as adults and remaining mobile while juveniles. Juvies still need coral nests so everything will work out fine with no possibility for any of this to go sideways i'm sure major changes in atmospheric composition will not negatively affect flying organisms

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Plus life forms that absorb stank as their food will not even have to avoid predators because of the concentrated rankness in their tissues so they no longer even need mobility.

drat this is one of the best, easiest jobs I've ever had

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Put the pruneprawns on the moon. They can eat the moomslime and the low gravity means they don't need so many legs. That will get them to be big oliphaunts instead of crebs

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Evolve Sphereoops so they metabolize the atmospheric sulphur into something less harmful.
Do we have any Silica based life form we can introduce into Secunda? take 1 silica lifeform, modify it into 2 subspecies, 1 that can graze on the Moonslime and 1 that works symbiotically with it to spread across the moon.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
If they have imperfect digestion they could simply poo poo viable spores they ate

Also flying sphereoops that piss sulfur rich fluids to the land below would turbo charge weathering of rocks and alter the atmosphere pretty quick I bet

This has been today's poo poo and piss post, thank you

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Hmm some kind of anti-crab fungus sounds about right. Attracted to the hard crablike exterior they latch on after floating around in the water and dissolve the shells for food.

I'm sure nothing bad will happen.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

OK so to solve all the issues we make parasites that live in crabs and they absorb sulfur, slowly poisoning the host which bodies rhey lay eggs in as fuel for propagating, the babies drifting in water until they attach to crab shell which they eat through and continue the cycle .

and rhen something something crystals

Maybe the crabs develop a crystal based subspecies whose diet of crystal gives them some kind of non standard shell the crabasites cannot pierce.

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Hmm this is strange.

My reading seem to indicate the crystals are some kind of pre-existing life form. Not sure that's possible but they appear to exist in some kind of symbiotic relationship with the slime things.

It looks like they provide some kind of sustience for their spore friends and gain some benefit in exchange, not sure what though...

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

After consideration, we disagree on the Pruneprawns.
The problem is not that Pruneprawns are undergoing carcinization, the problem is that they aren't going far enough.
Now I won't lie: determining what that even means was a challenge, but I believe our 3-AM coffee-deprived genegineers pulled through.

"What, exactly, is a crab?"
"How do we define the primal state of crustacean so many beings strive for, yet never quite reach?"
"What, then, does it mean to go beyond crab?"

I will tell you.

Orocarcinous, the Forever Crab Prawn.
Derived from some reserved, uncarnized pruneprawn stock, we encouraged several specimen to morph into smaller, partly or wholly unarmored specialized specimens meant to instinctively assemble into the form of, yes, a crab.
A 'crab' composed of numerous smaller prawns that can simply be discarded and replaced as the collective needs.
Thus, each individual 'Orocarcinous' is in truth a mobile colony, one every bit as capable as the Pruneprawn and more resilient to the woes a singular being would face.
With some luck, who knows how long their motile colonies might live? What strange adaptations they might take on to face a changing world?
Time will tell, boss. Time will tell.
That said we take no responsibility in the event of the carcinocollective reforming the prawnmind plurality in the next few eons.

Swedish Thaumocracy
Jul 11, 2006

Strength of >800 Men
Honor of 0
Grimey Drawer

Dog Kisser posted:

If the stink is on fire it will

Set things on fire

Maybe it will fix the smell I don't know


Uuh sure, let's call that plan B!



We put the installation all the way on the other big landmass, so no critters accidentally bump into it! Wouldn't want to torch the atmosphere by accident now would we? Hahaha.

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Well, for the secondary, slimes that incorporate rocks or crystal shards into their tissues will be able to form a mineral sclerite framework that should allow them to move around the surface instead of being permanently rooted. This would take a lot of energy though, they might have to start eating other slimes.

Siegkrow posted:

Do we have any Silica based life form we can introduce into Secunda? take 1 silica lifeform, modify it into 2 subspecies, 1 that can graze on the Moonslime and 1 that works symbiotically with it to spread across the moon.

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Hmm this is strange.

My reading seem to indicate the crystals are some kind of pre-existing life form. Not sure that's possible but they appear to exist in some kind of symbiotic relationship with the slime things.

It looks like they provide some kind of sustience for their spore friends and gain some benefit in exchange, not sure what though...


The slimes have taken to manipulating the sharp crystalline shards for use as proto-legs. Should help them get around fast enough to mow the moonlawn, so to speak.

We tried incorporating some silica onto some of the spore patches, but I'm not sure the 'rapid integration process' went quiet as well as you hoped. Ah, can't all be winners. Or can they? Maybe.

More to come as the gengineers work around the clock to Turn Your Ideas Into Reality!

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Turn the stinkosphere into a quasi-gaseous single world-spanning organism with airbourne strands derived from pruneprawns. Have it excrete sweet-smelling and life-supporting compounds whenever stressed or hurt. CF everything else feeding on the stink.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Nah nah nah, if you try to convert a whole atmosphere worth of stink into airborne biomass it's gonna be too heavy to stay aloft. Design some kind of fungus-analogue that sequesters all the sulfur it can in mycelium spread through the planetary crust instead. Surely this will never have any unintended side effects once all the sulfur is in the fungus instead of the air.

Lux Anima
Apr 17, 2016


Dinosaur Gum
Tube worms - driven away from the sulfurous atmosphere, they burrow into the dirt and release better-smelling gases!

Theanael
Jun 21, 2019
Mutate Stinkoral to emit a different and more breathable gas.

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Status check on the atmosphere?

Swedish Thaumocracy
Jul 11, 2006

Strength of >800 Men
Honor of 0
Grimey Drawer

SniperWoreConverse posted:

two birds with one stone for the primary as well. Prune crabs will instead use their feathery pincers to filter stank emissions at the source, becoming stationary as adults and remaining mobile while juveniles. Juvies still need coral nests so everything will work out fine with no possibility for any of this to go sideways i'm sure major changes in atmospheric composition will not negatively affect flying organisms

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Plus life forms that absorb stank as their food will not even have to avoid predators because of the concentrated rankness in their tissues so they no longer even need mobility.

Siegkrow posted:

Evolve Sphereoops so they metabolize the atmospheric sulphur into something less harmful.

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Hmm some kind of anti-crab fungus sounds about right. Attracted to the hard crablike exterior they latch on after floating around in the water and dissolve the shells for food.

KittyEmpress posted:

OK so to solve all the issues we make parasites that live in crabs and they absorb sulfur, slowly poisoning the host which bodies rhey lay eggs in as fuel for propagating, the babies drifting in water until they attach to crab shell which they eat through and continue the cycle .

Maybe the crabs develop a crystal based subspecies whose diet of crystal gives them some kind of non standard shell the crabasites cannot pierce.

Arcanuse posted:

Orocarcinous, the Forever Crab Prawn.
Derived from some reserved, uncarnized pruneprawn stock, we encouraged several specimen to morph into smaller, partly or wholly unarmored specialized specimens meant to instinctively assemble into the form of, yes, a crab.
A 'crab' composed of numerous smaller prawns that can simply be discarded and replaced as the collective needs.
Thus, each individual 'Orocarcinous' is in truth a mobile colony, one every bit as capable as the Pruneprawn and more resilient to the woes a singular being would face.


Right! Fixes implemented. Lets see how it turned out?



Uuuuh good news and bad news! The Prunowars all combined into a giant super-murder colony and is terrorizing the terrorbear, but at least they aren't crabs any more!


The Sulpharasites are slowly infesting the remaining crustaceans, but they have spread to other organisms as well. No matter, they do their part to clean up the environment!


The newly modified Stinkoops spread even slower, but they are particularly good at removing toxins from the environment, and due to their simple nature should have very long lifespans to boot - as long as nothing pops them early or as long as they stay away from any spontaneous underwater oxidizers we should see a very real effect of their presence soon enough!


We only had enough spare crystals for a single armoured specimen (most of them went to the various moonslimes), so we added a few extra eyes to compensate - Not sure how that will work out, but the gengineers report with 93% confidence that nothing currently alive could pierce its shell, and have started a small betting pool on how long it will last and how many creatures it will kill in its lifetime. Maybe we should name it something special? That way it would be a monster, not a crab! And that's ok!


AJ_Impy posted:

Turn the stinkosphere into a quasi-gaseous single world-spanning organism with airbourne strands derived from pruneprawns. Have it excrete sweet-smelling and life-supporting compounds whenever stressed or hurt. CF everything else feeding on the stink.


Sorry we used up all the pruneprawns already, even the old stock in stasis. Besides, we don't have the biomass to support such a large organism yet. [Newform] steps!

Siegkrow posted:

Status check on the atmosphere?

Theanael posted:

Mutate Stinkoral to emit a different and more breathable gas.


Sorry, - someone, and I'm not naming names here, set tachyons to have a positive presence in the Local Groups higgs boson field. Had to get HQ to send a licensed chronoperator to manually reset the past so that it happened then and not now! Please report any anachronisms retroactively. Thank you. We'll get to your perfumorals as soon as things return to normal.

As for the atmosphere, we'll just have to see! Give it a million years or two.

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



the Boss posted:

We only had enough spare crystals for a single armoured specimen (most of them went to the various moonslimes), so we added a few extra eyes to compensate - Not sure how that will work out, but the gengineers report with 93% confidence that nothing currently alive could pierce its shell, and have started a small betting pool on how long it will last and how many creatures it will kill in its lifetime. Maybe we should name it something special? That way it would be a monster, not a crab! And that's ok!
How about Sillacoid? Or does that break the Ethereal trademark law?

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Chief, has the sapience monitoring division set up their stations yet? Can't turn over this great planet if the genegineer interns let these animals evolve sapience! My last corp had that happen due yi a negligent manager and the lawsuit is still going on 769,433,420 standard years later!

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.
Prunowars should keep Terrorbears as pets. And also food. That thing where there is a hierarchy between animals.

Predation-friends?
No-Eat-Pact?

Something like that.

Scribbleykins
Apr 29, 2010

Any scientist with the right background can brew his own booze.

...

What do you mean electrolytes aren't used for brewing booze? That's silly!

...

Well when all you have are chunks of TNE and an overly large water ration, all the world looks like a still!
Grimey Drawer

Dog Kisser posted:

Prunowars should keep Terrorbears as pets. And also food. That thing where there is a hierarchy between animals.

Predation-friends?
No-Eat-Pact?

Something like that.

*MA⅃ƧЯOOႧ TƎƧԳU*

"Abusymbiosis!"

*UPSET DOORSLAM*

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.

Scribbleykins posted:

*MA⅃ƧЯOOႧ TƎƧԳU*

"Abusymbiosis!"

*UPSET DOORSLAM*
Well yes if we want to get all technical about it.

Swedish Thaumocracy
Jul 11, 2006

Strength of >800 Men
Honor of 0
Grimey Drawer

Siegkrow posted:

How about Sillacoid? Or does that break the Ethereal trademark law?


On the primary manipulator, copyright law is meaningless against the backdrop of the infinity of creation, but on the secondary manipulator, I don't want a write-up on my next quaeternitality review. Nothing a bag of scrabble can't fix though! Maybe we can call it a Scinticoid, on account of its dazzling nature?

Slaan posted:

Chief, has the sapience monitoring division set up their stations yet? Can't turn over this great planet if the genegineer interns let these animals evolve sapience! My last corp had that happen due yi a negligent manager and the lawsuit is still going on 769,433,420 standard years later!


Ooh, that sounds rough. I'd hate to be that entity! Yeah we have all the standard industry filters going, everything from deterministic isles of stability (that's where all the crabs come from, sadly) and unmonoliths up to and including a q-36 space modulator in orbit around Vega-Prime; but that beauty is reserved for post-keter scenarios only. We're talking rampancy or precursor von neumans; stuff that can't just be buried in dinosaurs. Remarkably effective, your average dinosaur, in getting rid of cusp-of-sapiency-squatters. We keep a few terratonns of dinoDNA on ice around Vega-6 for that very reason! And when they are done eating you can just trigger a few volcanoes and you'll have a nice and varied strata AND bonus natural resources in just a few million years! You can't really go wrong with dinosaurs; though admittedly they aren't a great fit for every environment and you'll be docked on variety by including a staple stock like that, but if we aren't in a hurry we can always do it the hard way and attempt to breed our own!

~~

Theanael posted:

Mutate Stinkoral to emit a different and more breathable gas.

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Also flying sphereoops that piss sulfur rich fluids to the land below would turbo charge weathering of rocks and alter the atmosphere pretty quick I bet

Siegkrow posted:

Status check on the atmosphere?




Looks like all these edits are having a swift effect on the oceans, but the atmosphere will take more time to dilute. On the bright side, these new avian Stinkoops variants are doing wonders for the natural topography! Sure, the geoengineers might grumble about all their hard work going to waste, but we aren't called Evosolution INC for nothing! Great work everyone!

Ah, but we still have loads to do! We've got a basic ecosystem going now, but we are going to need some critters to take advantage of the soon to be stinkfree atmosphere - remember, nothing too advanced, just a basic shape or purpose should do. Lets go with two flora to compete with the Sporest for coverage to support future diversity, and one grazer and one more predator to keep it all in check. Don't worry if you come up with a few extra, it'll sort itself out in the end!

Swedish Thaumocracy fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Oct 29, 2021

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



What resources do we currently have that would be useful for the current stage?

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Alright chief, here is a grazer to die for!

Take a mosquito, make it big as an eternabull and make the proboscis prehensile. BAM! Instant source of meat that can easily reach hard to get plants

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Flora eh? How about muckwort which can tolerate salinity and high mineral content, and a fernuloid which should be able to develop woody branches pretty easy. I guess either could, eventually.

We need a solid arthropod for a grazer, something like a pill bug or millipede. A little squishy but not TOO squishy.

For a pred those bears need an out, just in case. I bet some could evolve to hide in worts until it's time to strike.

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

Lumicube.
An angry, six-sided omnivorous rockplated creature. A sort of land-muscle/clam/mollusk, perhaps?
Lumicube can survive on sunlight if it must, but largely thrives on rolling over smaller creatures/vegetation and eating the resulting mash.
Lumicube can even hunt underwater, if only for a short while. Not very buoyant, those rock creatures.
It's even edible. We think. We didn't really care for it in the lab, but if it survives to the final product tourists will probably love the thing.
Don't really get tourists, but I'm not getting paid to question the customer, here~.

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Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Well we already have Stinkgrass.
How about a simple stench berry bush, it extracts nutrients from the sulphur heavy ground and creates very stinky berries that have a deeply sweet flavor that attracts grazers (to spread it's seeds) while the stench repels parasites?

Also, an upside down tree. It grows from the underside of overhangs, and curves back up to reach the sun.

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