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Nov 14, 2023 13:29
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Please put me in this amazing game
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Nov 14, 2023 13:43
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I have read tutorial 1 and have a question. In the final scenario discussed, isn't the last night of killing superfluous? At 3 players left it is 1 scum, 1 town and 1 dead in all 3 universes, which means scum already control the vote and you can end the game right there without having to go through the motions of "oh everyone only has one kill option"
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Nov 14, 2023 14:07
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Never mind, tutorial 2 made it a bit clearer. The number of remaining players alive in any universe is who you count for the purposes of controlling vote share, not the remaining players in any individual universe.
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Nov 14, 2023 14:20
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In example 2, Carla would win where the scum win and Ellie where the town win, right?
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Nov 14, 2023 14:38
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this is the code you've been working on, huh. gently caress it, we ball (across the infinite plane of universes)
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Nov 14, 2023 17:27
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wins32767 posted:Scum need to as well. The only way anyone wins is to collapse down to 1. My point is that there is that everyone will literally have the same probabilities on d1 so there won’t really be alignment driven hints to sus out. It’s just a popularity contest at that point. I mean, it's possible to win with only a few universes left. But most universes will be done with once a win condition is reached. wins32767 posted:In example 2, Carla would win where the scum win and Ellie where the town win, right? I suppose so. It depends if you consider dead players winning when their faction wins in regular mafia.
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Nov 14, 2023 18:09
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Quackles posted:I mean, it's possible to win with only a few universes left. But most universes will be done with once a win condition is reached. You don't consider that to be the case? Is everyone a TOWN-Survivor or SCUM-Survivor? 
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Nov 14, 2023 18:17
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wologar posted:You don't consider that to be the case? Is everyone a TOWN-Survivor or SCUM-Survivor? ...I always thought in regular mafia, you only claimed the win if you were alive. If your faction won but you were dead, you still got to bask in the glow a little, though. It's why for Danganronpa's Mastermind, I mentioned "wins even if dead in this case" in the description. EDIT: Formally, I'm saying that this game works like regular mafia - you win with your faction, alive or dead. And sometimes you might be alive or dead at the same time! Quackles fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Nov 14, 2023 |
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Nov 14, 2023 18:34
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An-y-ways: a new tutorial and info post have each been added! The Supplementary Information post now includes full details of the masonry-picking algorithm (it's not random!) Tutorial 3: The Entangler showcases the entangler, how masonries are made (and destroyed), and everything about the role's special brand of immortality (!).
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Nov 14, 2023 19:06
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Let's do it.
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Nov 14, 2023 19:15
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wins32767 posted:Scum need to as well. The only way anyone wins is to collapse down to 1. My point is that there is that everyone will literally have the same probabilities on d1 so there won’t really be alignment driven hints to sus out. It’s just a popularity contest at that point. I agree there should be N0 kills and abilities
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Nov 14, 2023 21:35
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Also sad that the OP accounts for targeting yourself with a kill to eliminate every universe where you are scum. We aren't allowed to 
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Nov 14, 2023 21:36
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Johnny Keats posted:I agree there should be N0 kills and abilities Tempting. I was a little hesitant about opening with N0 nightkills, but it might be suitable for future games of this.
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Nov 14, 2023 22:06
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Just let me kill on n0
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Nov 14, 2023 22:07
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Johnny Keats posted:Also sad that the OP accounts for targeting yourself with a kill to eliminate every universe where you are scum. We aren't allowed to You and I think a lot alike.
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Nov 14, 2023 22:24
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Johnny Keats posted:Also sad that the OP accounts for targeting yourself with a kill to eliminate every universe where you are scum. We aren't allowed to I may not have thought of every possibility, but I've thought of most of 'em.
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Nov 14, 2023 22:26
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what if we can definitively disprove the infinite universes theory in thread?
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Nov 14, 2023 22:27
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Quackles posted:I may not have thought of every possibility, but I've thought of most of 'em. That sounds like a challenge.
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Nov 14, 2023 22:58
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wins32767 posted:That sounds like a challenge. ...and I made a computer program to think of the rest. 
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Nov 14, 2023 23:01
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Wins we target each other with the kill N1 yeah?
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Nov 14, 2023 23:03
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Johnny Keats posted:Wins we target each other with the kill N1 yeah? you know that means you won't be able to be scum together, right? Your Personal Muse posted:what if we can definitively disprove the infinite universes theory in thread? there aren't infinite universes though. they're clearly finite per Quackles' earlier post
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Nov 15, 2023 00:06
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:you know that means you won't be able to be scum together, right? The trick is that first it increases our odds of being scum in the universes we're alive because in all universes where one of us is scum but not the other, the town one dies. Universes where we are both scum will collapse, but there will be far more where this is not the case and one of us is scum. Then, if we both submit the same kills on each other N2, we will collapse any universe where our kill was successful on N1 because we tried to target a dead player. Therefore after N2 we will have limited all universes where we are alive to universes where we are both town
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Nov 15, 2023 00:20
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Johnny Keats posted:The trick is that first it increases our odds of being scum in the universes we're alive because in all universes where one of us is scum but not the other, the town one dies. Universes where we are both scum will collapse, but there will be far more where this is not the case and one of us is scum. Then, if we both submit the same kills on each other N2, we will collapse any universe where our kill was successful on N1 because we tried to target a dead player. Therefore after N2 we will have limited all universes where we are alive to universes where we are both town To be clear, you can submit a nightkill on a person who is dead in some universes without collapsing those universes. The target will just be killed in all the universes they are alive, and the nightkill will be a no-op in the universes where the target is already nightkilled once. If you try to submit a nightkill on a person who is dead in every universe where you're scum, my tracker program will reject it and I'll tell you to pick someone else. EDIT: I've added a clarification about this to the OP.
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Nov 15, 2023 01:58
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drat, foiled again
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Nov 15, 2023 02:02
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A new info post has been added! The Supplementary Information post now includes a full order of how night actions are resolved.
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Nov 15, 2023 06:37
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sign me the gently caress up
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Nov 16, 2023 01:04
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Ill play but I can't promise I will understand it
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Nov 16, 2023 02:57
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I will play but I I'm going to not read the op and only poo poo post.
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Nov 16, 2023 03:42
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Sub Rosa posted:I will play but I I'm going to not read the op and only poo poo post. Wait until you get asked to pick a target for every action in the game
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Nov 16, 2023 03:43
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Sub Rosa posted:I will play but I I'm going to not read the op and only poo poo post.
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Nov 16, 2023 03:47
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JosefStalinator posted:Ill play but I can't promise I will understand it not as much of a problem as you'd think. it'd be perfectly reasonable to just make whatever plays at night take your fancy, or commit to foiling any plans anybody tried to make in thread, or make up your own achievements to try and earn like maybe highest % scum that still flips town or first to collapse all universes in which you're a detective.
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Nov 16, 2023 03:57
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I’m going to post, you can believe that
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Nov 16, 2023 04:02
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Please add the following rule to the OP: During jokephase, you are NOT allowed to vote someone while joking that someone’s post is x% scummy.
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Nov 16, 2023 04:03
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:not as much of a problem as you'd think. it'd be perfectly reasonable to just make whatever plays at night take your fancy, or commit to foiling any plans anybody tried to make in thread, or make up your own achievements to try and earn like maybe highest % scum that still flips town or first to collapse all universes in which you're a detective. I'm going to use an RNG to decide my actions for all five roles
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Nov 16, 2023 04:06
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JosefStalinator posted:I'm going to use an RNG to decide my actions for all five roles now you just need three other players to commit to the same thing and you'll already be ahead of Keats 
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Nov 16, 2023 04:10
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i'll play
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Nov 16, 2023 04:10
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We should collectively decide on a player to all shoot on N1, making universes where that player is alive highly likely for them to be scum. Then we execute that player on the following day, almost certain to flip scum, and all the universes where we shot him dead collapse and everybody remaining is more likely to be town. Rinse and repeat.
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Nov 16, 2023 04:20
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Nice! That makes 19. And just in time, because... A new tutorial has been added! Tutorial 4: Power Roles shows off the game in action, with scum, the detective, and the guard all going at it. The game will begin at 11 PM Pacific Time.
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Nov 16, 2023 04:20
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I volunteer as tribute
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Nov 16, 2023 04:21
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