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Romes
Jun 18, 2003
A typical mixed bag of fuckery in response to this, but the sad thing is this is really, really important...

This is well beyond "fast lanes" and what not. This is a smack in the face realization that our country is run by corporations, money, and greed. Corporations buy their way in to government to create a monopoly where they can screw every last penny out of the consumers whilst providing them lovely service.

Seriously, can we take a look at the number of "satisfied" cable customers vs "not satisfied?" It's a joke, a complete joke that we mock and mimic in our shows (south park for example). It's a problem that EVERYONE knows exists, yet virtually NO ONE knows how to stop.

Every single one of these companies is set up like this too, a no blame corporation. Your service is poo poo, your prices get hiked up, you get hung up on, etc, but when you reach out to the one point of contact they give you, it's not that individual person's fault. They're just answering a phone. It's the heads of the boards that make the decisions to gently caress you, then HIDE behind the innocent person just doing their minimum wage job answering the phones. Companies now days are just loving evil. Whatever happened to being happy making good money and providing quality service to your happy customers? No, now it's all about "Well if we raise everyone's bill $1 per year we can make x% more profit every year!!!" It's nothing more than greed powering profits, not quality, not products...

They're playing dirty, buying politicians, buying bills/etc, and they're doing so with our own money that they've already squeezed/ripped us off for so that they can just do it 10x more. At the end of the day, it's all the consumers who foot the bill and get the shaft the most. Well I say it's time we fight back. Whether it be boycotting cable companies or physically burning their headquarters to the ground, a message needs to be sent. We are the little people, and we're quite tired of being stepped on so you can make $50 million next year, instead of $40 million.

Romes fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 3, 2014

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Shadoer posted:

Just because they didn't talk about it in reports, doesn't mean it isn't important to them and will affect how their lobby dollars are being spent.

Eh. Google is already waffling on this so if you're expecting them to keep throwing money at the pro Internet Neutrality side don't hold your breath.

http://www.wired.com/2013/07/google-neutrality/

Romes posted:

Whether it be boycotting cable companies or physically burning their headquarters to the ground, a message needs to be sent. We are the little people, and we're quite tired of being stepped on so you can make $50 million next year, instead of $40 million.

I wish people would riot and protest in the US like they do in other countries but there seems to be a good solid 50% of the population that instantly sides with the police and the state in any dispute and the other 50% are too busy working 50+ hours a week to support themselves.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jun 3, 2014

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Don't use that FCC submittal form, it's loving complicated. Use this.

https://www.dearfcc.org/

Anyone reading the thread, just click this. It generates a letter for you, gives you a textbox to add in your own comments, and then you put in your name and address. It takes less than a minute to do, and actually does have an effect.

You all can be as cynical and as bullshitty in GBS as you want, but your ability to post here and in other websites like SA would be negatively affected by the loss of Net Neutrality. So take a minute to protect it.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
yeah let's stop this bill so it can show up again in another half year because believe it or not multi billion dollar companies are more dedicated than a bunch of people wearing guy fawkes masks

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Robo Reagan posted:

yeah let's stop this bill so it can show up again in another half year because believe it or not multi billion dollar companies are more dedicated than a bunch of people wearing guy fawkes masks

thing is hard, let's not do thing. i am a big whiny baby

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Robo Reagan posted:

yeah let's stop this bill so it can show up again in another half year

for real. I signed the petitions and poo poo for the first 4 but at this point it's like whatever. I don't know how it's acceptable to have a bill get shot down then have the same loving bill slightly reworded get voted on a few months later, then repeat until the bill gets passed eventually.

Cantorsdust posted:

thing is hard, let's not do thing. i am a big whiny baby

what will it affect? I feel like we should be writing poo poo tons of letters and protesting and boycotting the companies pouring money into the anti neutrality lobbying efforts, because otherwise they'll just keep pumping cash into destroying net neutrality until eventually they win.

but you know, not watching TV and using the internet is way harder than just writing a letter lol

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Moridin920 posted:

for real. I signed the petitions and poo poo for the first 4 but at this point it's like whatever. I don't know how it's acceptable to have a bill get shot down then have the same loving bill slightly reworded get voted on a few months later, then repeat until the bill gets passed eventually.

It's not a bill. The FCC is a regulatory body. If it rules for Net Neutrality and for ISPs to be treated as common carriers, that's basically it. Issue over.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Cantorsdust posted:

thing is hard, let's not do thing. i am a big whiny baby

i didnt give enough of a gently caress to protest the nigerian schoolgirls and a deff dont have it in me the protest the *th net neutrality bill. sorry you guys cant keep streaming anime after this.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

anonymity on the internet should be destroyed

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Cantorsdust posted:

It's not a bill. The FCC is a regulatory body. If it rules for Net Neutrality and for ISPs to be treated as common carriers, that's basically it. Issue over.

you know what I loving mean don't be obtuse

we just write letters and sign petitions and the poo poo gets rammed through congress anyway. if it doesn't then they put lackeys on the boards of regulatory agencies and get things done that way.

Why bother the FCC when we should be bothering the cable companies. Stage a protest outside of the headquarters of the companies contributing the most money to this. And not some hippy dippy sit across the street protest, I mean actually disrupt their business and means of making profit until they cave to the will of the people.

Asking nicely to not get hosed in the rear end is just funny really.

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


left a comment, i hope whoever reads it over at the FCC will enjoy my great arguments which eventually devolve into the lyrics to the fresh prince of bel air intro

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Net neutrality attacks are the perfect example showing the government is run by and for big corporations. Net neutrality is to the huge benefit of all internet users, democrat, republican or else wise. The only thing net neutrality is bad for, is the bottom lines of certain corporations who want to cement their dominance providing content with faster speeds than any new competitors can afford. Or with back room deals for exclusive fast lane access on providers.

And the FCC is run by a bunch of industry lobbyists or former industry executives. After they go to the FCC and make a bunch of rules to benefit the industry, they go right back to their old jobs with a big huge pay raise. Tom Wheeler (the FCC chair) is a former CEO of National Cable & Telecommunications Association and also former CEO of the CTIA Wireless Association. Wheeler was appointed by Obama and confirmed by the senate.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/washingtons-revolving-door-cellular-lobby-and-fcc-have-traded-leaders/

This is common in many other government agencies as well.

Unfortunately it's very difficult to stop this kind of thing, but the fight needs to be taken not only directly to the regulatory bodies but also to our congress men and women. The only thing they are more afraid of than losing their lobby money, is losing votes en masse.

Smoking Crow posted:

anonymity on the internet should be destroyed

You think there is anonymity on the internet? Those days are looooong gone. Everything you do on the internet, you may as well be doing in the middle of a crowded public plaza.

Chris Awful
Oct 2, 2005

Tell your friends they don't have to be scared or hungry anymore comrades.

Full Metal Jackass posted:

You're only slowing the inevitable.

Mr. Anderson.

Libelous Slander
May 1, 2009

... you're just creepy ...

ballistics statistics
Nov 27, 2003

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:


Pawn 17 posted:

You think there is anonymity on the internet? Those days are looooong gone. Everything you do on the internet, you may as well be doing in the middle of a crowded public plaza.

Enjoy your porn!

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Romes posted:

whilst

Dr. Video Games 0112
Jan 7, 2004

serious business

Pawn 17 posted:



You think there is anonymity on the internet? Those days are looooong gone. Everything you do on the internet, you may as well be doing in the middle of a crowded public plaza.

This is a fetish of mine.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Don't use that FCC submittal form, it's loving complicated. Use this.

https://www.dearfcc.org/

Cantorsdust posted:

Anyone reading the thread, just click this. It generates a letter for you, gives you a textbox to add in your own comments, and then you put in your name and address. It takes less than a minute to do, and actually does have an effect.

You all can be as cynical and as bullshitty in GBS as you want, but your ability to post here and in other websites like SA would be negatively affected by the loss of Net Neutrality. So take a minute to protect it.

Comment submitted, thanks.

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting
lol if ur deluded enough to think u have any impact on government whatsoever

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Ilikedirt posted:

lol if ur deluded enough to think u have any impact on government whatsoever

i'm going to be ironically apathetic because effecting actual change is hard.

lol

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting

Cantorsdust posted:

i'm going to be ironically apathetic because effecting actual change is hard.

lol

its not "hard" it is literally impossible. this country is at the whim of corporations. lobbying money rules above all else idk what else to tell u

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting

Liar posted:

I wouldn't.



i mean look at this the best u can even hope for is to have some huge multinational who happens to share ur interest

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~
lol we're well and truly hosed anyways so why bother? comcast is paying the fcc chairman to push these new things through while also paying a handful of republicans to push through a law making it illegal to stop them and also prevent the fcc from ever damaging their profit margins

gg america

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~
want to actually accomplish something? become head of a giant international corporation and then throw money at the government to make life better for the common man

(spoiler: you wouldn't because then you're losing money and your stockholders force you to resign lol)

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.
That's stupid because there are a lot of powerful corporations in the tech sector that make money off net neutrality in addition to the powerful cable companies that would make money getting rid of it. It's not as simple as "lol corporations people have no power", because the corporate side of the equation is complicated. So throw in your voice and the whores in government might well think "Better to sell out to *these* corporations and make a shitload of money rather than these other corporations and piss folks off".

Nog
May 15, 2006

I actually tried to leave a comment because I'm a big loser who cares about things.

Form wouldn't submit though. Oh well, you win this round Comcast.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

Boogaleeboo posted:

That's stupid because there are a lot of powerful corporations in the tech sector that make money off net neutrality in addition to the powerful cable companies that would make money getting rid of it. It's not as simple as "lol corporations people have no power", because the corporate side of the equation is complicated. So throw in your voice and the whores in government might well think "Better to sell out to *these* corporations and make a shitload of money rather than these other corporations and piss folks off".

half the government kneels to the fattest checks and gives no fucks about the people they represent so just take solace in the fact that at least they still won't get a presidency for many more years at least

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting

Boogaleeboo posted:

That's stupid because there are a lot of powerful corporations in the tech sector that make money off net neutrality in addition to the powerful cable companies that would make money getting rid of it. It's not as simple as "lol corporations people have no power", because the corporate side of the equation is complicated. So throw in your voice and the whores in government might well think "Better to sell out to *these* corporations and make a shitload of money rather than these other corporations and piss folks off".

ur right
*leaves a comment on webpage*
*changes the world forever*

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Ilikedirt posted:

ur right
*leaves a comment on webpage*
*changes the world forever*

Kill yourself, maybe your parts can go to help someone less boring and apathetic.

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
big content vs. big cable

basically, netflix now accounts for 34% of peak internet usage and cable companies want to charge them for it

bonus: hysterically shrill progressives railing against comcast, blissfully unaware that the democratic party is one of its subsidiaries

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting

Boogaleeboo posted:

Kill yourself, maybe your parts can go to help someone less boring and apathetic.

jokes on u im not an organ doner

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.
Maybe some stray dog can eat them, it's still a win.

Idiot Kicker
Jun 13, 2007
I submitted a paragraph...I know that I can't do a loving thing, but it gives me an ounce of solace to know that I submitted something.

(Used a fake email tho)

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting

Boogaleeboo posted:

Maybe some stray dog can eat them, it's still a win.

as they gnaw my rotting bones, u will be watching back episodes of x-files at 56k speeds after paying for a 500 dollar netflix access day pass from verizoncast, the sole global provider of internet.

then as the dogs poop me out u will attend ur weekly picket in the 5 foot by 5 foot designated protest zone located behind the denny's dumpster 11 blocks away from city hall. after your alloted 10 minutes of protest time the dogs will probably be eating me again but now in poop form.

while im being digested you will head home to whatever fenced in tent city has free space, and fall asleep while sending text messages on your smartwatch that only has 1 reception bar designed into the ui because to include more bars would only instill hope in consumers that there could possibly be more. around dis time the dogs will be barfing me up and i will be dog barf and ull be paying for lovely internet service still believing you have any say in tge matter

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting
read more in my exciting internet sci fi dystopia novel "dog barf: a cyberpunk tale,,,,,

crikster
Jul 13, 2012

start today
I bet there won't be any more bittorrent if the net neutrality goes under.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

crikster posted:

I bet there won't be any more bittorrent if the net neutrality goes under.

pirates always find a way

Dr. Video Games 0112
Jan 7, 2004

serious business

crikster posted:

I bet there won't be any more bittorrent if the net neutrality goes under.

It will still exist, but only available to the corporate elite.

Idiot Kicker
Jun 13, 2007
so once Internet freedom is gone, where does that put Barack Obama on the list of worst presidents? 3rd? 2nd?

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aeternum
Sep 3, 2003

Nice try OP but you can't do anything against the Jew World Order.

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