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lol @ all the liberal pearl clutching itt. what if your kid had been the one murdered? wouldn't you want some justice?
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ThePriceIsRight posted:imo they should execute him with the same shotgun he used to kill the girl except shoot him in the knees and let him bleed out, sends a message. agreed
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Oct 6, 2015 16:14
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crucify him as an example to the rest
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Oct 6, 2015 16:14
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why is it legal to not have a gun gunlessness leads to crimes like this
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Oct 6, 2015 16:15
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Oct 6, 2015 16:18
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CuteJen96 posted:i keep the shotgun under the bed and in reach. That'd take you at least 8 seconds to grab, get with the goddamn times son 
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Oct 6, 2015 16:22
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:That'd take you at least 8 seconds to grab, get with the goddamn times son https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taCZdNrKNPg
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Oct 6, 2015 16:24
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:That'd take you at least 8 seconds to grab, get with the goddamn times son
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Oct 6, 2015 16:29
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parents should get charged with negligence resulting in wrongful death imoCuteJen96 posted:lol @ all the liberal pearl clutching itt. justice here having the meaning of killing an 11 year old as vengeance nah
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Oct 6, 2015 16:30
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CuteJen96 posted:lol @ all the liberal pearl clutching itt. Justice and vengeance are not the same thing.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:31
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justice means what you want it to mean. there's no objective definition of justice. we could kill all americans and call it justice. in fact, i do.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:32
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The difference between justice and vengeance is simple. Justice is resolution devolved out of the law of the land and abides by the moral code of society. Vengeance is whatever the gently caress you want due to a personal vendetta for punishment. I can serve justice as a judge who wasn't involved in the altercation. If something didn't actually happen to me I can't act out vengeance (avenging is different but also not justice). You loving idiots I swear to god.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:36
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Would you deny an eleven-year-old his constitutional right to bear arms???
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Oct 6, 2015 16:37
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good on him for standing his ground
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Oct 6, 2015 16:38
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for real though how is there not a law requiring you to keep your guns locked up at the very least? 2nd amendment retards really get butthurt about just that?
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Oct 6, 2015 16:39
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the correct course of action is to collect a handful of random people living in the area, have them decide what to do and then put the whole lot to deathBottledBodhisvata posted:Justice and vengeance are not the same thing.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:39
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CuteJen96 posted:lol @ all the liberal pearl clutching itt. Yeah, I'd want to kill the parents who left a loaded shotgun lying around for an 11 year old to use
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Oct 6, 2015 16:39
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Literally every Tezzor gunpost.
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Full anarchy now
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Oct 6, 2015 16:43
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Moridin920 posted:2nd amendment retards really get butthurt about just that? yes, yes they do they are good ways to secure a gun in the home and still have quick access to it but a lot of idiots just leave them loaded and accessible to anyone because "muh fredumz"
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Moridin920 posted:for real though how is there not a law requiring you to keep your guns locked up at the very least? Honestly, even though it's a sane thing that every needs to do, how the hell would you enforce such a law? You'd need a warrant to get inside the house and see it, but a warrant requires a decent chunk of evidence/suspicion for the specific crime to get. About the only use that would get is punishing idiots AFTER their negligence risked the lives of everyone around them.
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FoolyCharged posted:Honestly, even though it's a sane thing that every needs to do, how the hell would you enforce such a law? You'd need a warrant to get inside the house and see it, but a warrant requires a decent chunk of evidence/suspicion for the specific crime to get. About the only use that would get is punishing idiots AFTER their negligence risked the lives of everyone around them. You enforce the law the same way you enforce any law: you impose penalties when the legal system can prove someone contravened the law. It's not like any of the other laws we have stop people from committing other crimes, is it? There's restrictions in Australia that guns have to be kept secured in a gun safe or similar and if a gun owner breaks that restriction they can have their gun licence revoked and their guns seized. Most responsible gun owners in Australia accept that responsibility but there's always a bunch of idiots or straight up criminals who won't.
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FoolyCharged posted:Honestly, even though it's a sane thing that every needs to do, how the hell would you enforce such a law? You'd need a warrant to get inside the house and see it, but a warrant requires a decent chunk of evidence/suspicion for the specific crime to get. About the only use that would get is punishing idiots AFTER their negligence risked the lives of everyone around them. I dunno but when your kid shoots someone you can get charged with accessory to murder or negligence resulting in wrongful death or something and people would get the hint fairly quick I think. It's a law in CA and while we obv still have shootings I feel like the odds of a little kid finding a gun and shooting someone are lower at least. I know my dad keeps his guns locked up in a fire proof safe just bc that's the law even though no one is coming to check. Although I could be wrong I guess I haven't tabulated any statistics.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:04
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I believe it is both cool and good that this child had such easy access to a gun and that he was able to shoot and kill another child. im gay
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Oct 6, 2015 17:13
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But he is only 11 and can't possibly know that shooting someone with a shotgun is wrong. Your brain has a natural switch in it where the day you turn 18, it flips and you understand right and wrong. This kid should just have to spend the night at juvenile to put a good scare in him. Boys will be boys. [/gbssjw]
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Dirk Squarejaw posted:But he is only 11 and can't possibly know that shooting someone with a shotgun is wrong. Your brain has a natural switch in it where the day you turn 18, it flips and you understand right and wrong. This kid should just have to spend the night at juvenile to put a good scare in him. Boys will be boys. [/gbssjw] So what's the punishment? Should he go to jail with actual adults? Should he be put in solitary? Sent to an asylum? Do you want to kill this child? What's your solution here exactly?
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BottledBodhisvata posted:So what's the punishment? Should he go to jail with actual adults? Should he be put in solitary? Sent to an asylum? Do you want to kill this child? What's your solution here exactly? Duh!
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Dirk Squarejaw posted:But he is only 11 and can't possibly know that shooting someone with a shotgun is wrong. Your brain has a natural switch in it where the day you turn 18, it flips and you understand right and wrong. This kid should just have to spend the night at juvenile to put a good scare in him. Boys will be boys. [/gbssjw] Yeah it's either we treat him like a hardened felon or we just slap him on the wrist and give him a stern warning. it's obviously the parent's fault anyway aside from the fact that there's just a loaded shotgun lying around. you need a license to drive a car but any retard can pump out a kid.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:34
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take his puppy and shoot it in front of him. then break all his fingers.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:37
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had the boy played any video games prior to this?
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rezatahs posted:take his puppy and shoot it in front of him. then break all his fingers. A Lannister always repays his debts
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Puppies were probably all Hey wtf
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im pro-child-death
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I'm sure glad the legal system recognizes kid are impulsive, can't really evaluate long term consequences of their actions, and doesn't quite understand what death exactly means, while also having the ability to just ignore all that and have their trial be as an adult.Parallax Scroll posted:kinder eggs arent in the constitution
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BottledBodhisvata posted:A Lannister always repays his debts Joffrey Baratheon did nothing wrong he was a child and cannot be held responsible for his actions.
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Just thinking about this is depressing though, the family is never really going to get any closure and at the end of the day the only thing the punishment is going to do (whether it's for the kid, dad, or both) is just ruin a second family too.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:59
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I am really glad the boy's parents taught him what to do in this situation (shoot the other fucker full of holes) good job gunhavers we won this round!!
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Strategic Tea posted:Joffrey Baratheon did nothing wrong he was a child and cannot be held responsible for his actions. No child should be handed the keys to a kingdom. or a shotgun.
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