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Series DD Funding
Nov 25, 2014

by exmarx
everyone knows about all the high quality electronics produced under socialism :rolleye:

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oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Series DD Funding posted:

everyone knows about all the high quality electronics produced under socialism :rolleye:

who cares

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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Series DD Funding posted:

everyone knows about all the high quality electronics produced under socialism :rolleye:

ternary computers sound interesting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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oh yeah, the soviets trounced us pretty hard in the space race too didn't they?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Forget it, Jake, it's Rand alPaul.

Condiv posted:

oh yeah, the soviets trounced us pretty hard in the space race too didn't they?

Uh... no :confused:

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Forget it, Jake, it's Rand alPaul.


Uh... no :confused:

first man in space, first lunar probe, first satellite

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer

Condiv posted:

first man in space, first lunar probe, first satellite

I agree, IBM trounced Apple in personal computing also(by this metric).

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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Mrit posted:

I agree, IBM trounced Apple in personal computing also(by this metric).

you are aware we are utterly dependent on the russians to reliably launch poo poo into space right now right? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-does-u-s-use-russian-rockets-launch-its-satellites-n588526

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Condiv posted:

you are aware we are utterly dependent on the russians to reliably launch poo poo into space right now right? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-does-u-s-use-russian-rockets-launch-its-satellites-n588526

that's not what anyone calls the Space Race tho, dingus

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

that's not what anyone calls the Space Race tho, dingus
so then how did the americans win the space race? the soviets beat us in to space in every way:
Intercontinental ballistic missile (August 1957)
Artificial satellite (October 1957)
Dog in space (November 1957)
Satellite to orbit the moon (1959)
Man into space (April 1961)
Man to spend a day in orbit (August 1961)
Long-duration flight for five days (June 1963)
Woman in space (June 1963)
Man to perform a spacewalk (March 1965)

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Condiv posted:

so then how did the americans win the space race? the soviets beat us in to space in every way:
Intercontinental ballistic missile (August 1957)
Artificial satellite (October 1957)
Dog in space (November 1957)
Satellite to orbit the moon (1959)
Man into space (April 1961)
Man to spend a day in orbit (August 1961)
Long-duration flight for five days (June 1963)
Woman in space (June 1963)
Man to perform a spacewalk (March 1965)

Gotta hand it to them, that was a great 7.5 year run. Khrushchev owned.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
:ussr: who walked on the Moon = 0
:911: who walked on the Moon = >0

but I shouldn't encourage you, Jill Stein voter who is obviously being deliberately dense because... reasons I guess

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

:ussr: who walked on the Moon = 0
:911: who walked on the Moon = >0

yep, america won the race to the moon. it's obvious we try to include that in the space race to save face tho

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
landing on another celestial body and returning is vastly more impressive than just shoving things into space imo

there is a reason nobody has done it since

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Condiv posted:

yep, america won the race to the moon. it's obvious we try to include that in the space race to save face tho

that's not what the term Space Race means and you loving know it

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Mir was pretty cool too.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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Jose posted:

landing on another celestial body and returning is vastly more impressive than just shoving things into space imo

there is a reason nobody has done it since

yep. but pretending that the communist USSR couldn't make electronics worth a drat is silly considering the accomplishments they made

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
actually it's about ethics in making fun of soviet consumer electronics
:goonsay:

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

actually it's about ethics in making fun of soviet consumer electronics
:goonsay:

:chloe:

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Condiv posted:

yep, america won the race to the moon. it's obvious we try to include that in the space race to save face tho

No, we save face by existing. Which the Soviet Union doesn't anymore. They blew their load trying to be better than us and it destroyed them, and here we still are.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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Mulva posted:

No, we save face by existing. Which the Soviet Union doesn't anymore. They blew their load trying to be better than us and it destroyed them, and here we still are.

cool

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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The lunar landing was very much about catching up because the Soviets were kicking rear end.

Then we decided to compete over who could scorch the Earth clean of life the most times over instead.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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if you were hoping that the US was gonna start taking security more seriously, well...

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/22/498954197/internet-outage-update-internet-of-things-hacking-attack-led-to-outage-of-popula

quote:

SIMON: And quickly, anything people can do to protect themselves?

SELYUKH: Super simple - and it's not going to surprise you - change your passwords. The malware that was linked to some of these attack devices had basically co-opted devices because they had really poor passwords on them.

i've seen this in a lot of other news outlets too (including zdnet) :smith:

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011
The passwords that created the vulnerability were actually hardcoded into the machines and couldn't be chosen or changed.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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Fiction posted:

The passwords that created the vulnerability were actually hardcoded into the machines and couldn't be chosen or changed.

yep the only way to fix this is regulations on software and poo poo. the correct answer to that question was "no, stop buying iot devices and stop using them if you want to be safe"

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Fiction posted:

The passwords that created the vulnerability were actually hardcoded into the machines and couldn't be chosen or changed.

But they're mostly behind routers which themselves could be more secure, no?

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

But they're mostly behind routers which themselves could be more secure, no?

Not if the device is opening up holes in the router. This is a good read
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/who-makes-the-iot-things-under-attack/

Condiv
May 7, 2008

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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

But they're mostly behind routers which themselves could be more secure, no?

there were routers with the same vulns. also, a lot of people didn't bother with a firewall between the internet and the IoT device

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Cybersyn was cool but killed and the death of the Buran program due to the collapse of the USSR is incredibly depressing.



It's a knockoff but better.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Condiv posted:

you are aware we are utterly dependent on the russians to reliably launch poo poo into space right now right? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-does-u-s-use-russian-rockets-launch-its-satellites-n588526

You realize trading for things others can provide more cheaply instead of making them yourself is an advantage of market economies, right?

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

GobiasIndustries posted:

Not if the device is opening up holes in the router. This is a good read
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/who-makes-the-iot-things-under-attack/

Thanks. So disabling UPnP is a good first step?

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

JeffersonClay posted:

You realize trading for things others can provide more cheaply instead of making them yourself is an advantage of market economies, right?

Look I'm sitting in a house with toxic drywall but in between the fatigue, nausea, headaches, and memory loss I feel so great about how advantageous it is for the market economy that its production was outsourced to a country with zero regulatory agencies.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Jose posted:

landing on another celestial body and returning is vastly more impressive than just shoving things into space imo

there is a reason nobody has done it since

Yeah. And the reason is that it's really expensive and there's no real reason, or at least none worth financing it.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

JeffersonClay posted:

You realize trading for things others can provide more cheaply instead of making them yourself is an advantage of market economies, right?

"socialist countries never engaged in trade" and other statements that prove their authors total idiots

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Homework Explainer posted:

"socialist countries never engaged in trade" and other statements that prove their authors total idiots

You're confusing markets and capitalism comrade.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
Adama was right

also Adama was night crew

coincidence i don't think so

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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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crazy cloud posted:

Adama was right

also Adama was night crew

coincidence i don't think so



my favorite part of bsg was baltar learning to chill and b nite crew

mightygerm
Jun 29, 2002



it begins
http://www.ksat.com/news/american-vigilante-hacker-sends-russia-a-warning

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Condiv posted:

so then how did the americans win the space race? the soviets beat us in to space in every way:
Intercontinental ballistic missile (August 1957)
Artificial satellite (October 1957)
Dog in space (November 1957)
Satellite to orbit the moon (1959)
Man into space (April 1961)
Man to spend a day in orbit (August 1961)
Long-duration flight for five days (June 1963)
Woman in space (June 1963)
Man to perform a spacewalk (March 1965)

why do your examples stop at '65

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crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Hodgepodge posted:

my favorite part of bsg was baltar learning to chill and b nite crew

Bangin a foxy genocidal robot is nite crew af so imo nite crew was in Gaius's heart all along ~

crazy cloud has issued a correction as of 19:17 on Oct 23, 2016

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