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The XKCD Larper posted:Didnt read thread but assume every one is complaining about Audio, the one linux thing I have never had a problem with It's a meme. Linux audio hasn't been an issue ever since creative sound cards fell out of fashion.
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*that linux* is bad but if you just used *this linux* and spent a few hours searching forums and wikis and editing configuration scripts it would be good vs. an OS that works
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Jul 28, 2017 19:26
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qhat posted:It's a meme. Linux audio hasn't been an issue ever since creative sound cards fell out of fashion. last time I tried installing fedora like a year ago my audio didn't work and i gave up on it. I have a bog standard realtek chip. Works in windows and macos just fine
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Jul 28, 2017 19:31
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also getting nvidia set up is a nightmare for no goddamn reason
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Jul 28, 2017 19:31
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qhat posted:It's a meme. Linux audio hasn't been an issue ever since creative sound cards fell out of fashion. flash on linux made audio a nightmare for a long time. it used loving open sound system or whatever that poo poo is called, and so if you wanted to watch something you had to kill ALL other applications that could possibly emit a beep through your speakers
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Jul 28, 2017 19:58
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the main prob with linux is when u hit a error, ur stuck forever. with programming langs, u get a useful error and first result on google will help u. with linux, you have to read a billion man pages and none of the thibgs you try help or get you any closer. its good to be challenged in order to be motivated to do ur job, but linux is all about 100% roadblocks that arent interesting to solve
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Jul 28, 2017 20:22
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akadajet posted:last time I tried installing fedora like a year ago my audio didn't work and i gave up on it. I have a bog standard realtek chip. Works in windows and macos just fine "not in an issue anymore" in linux speak actually means "in theory it's not an issue but if your laptop isn't specifically built for linux, then yeah it's gonna be an issue" you can apply that to anything related to linux on consumer devices obstipator posted:the main prob with linux is when u hit a error, ur stuck forever. with programming langs, u get a useful error and first result on google will help u. with linux, you have to read a billion man pages and none of the thibgs you try help or get you any closer. its good to be challenged in order to be motivated to do ur job, but linux is all about 100% roadblocks that arent interesting to solve p much
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Jul 28, 2017 20:32
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My Linux Rig posted:"not in an issue anymore" in linux speak actually means "in theory it's not an issue but if your laptop isn't specifically built for linux, then yeah it's gonna be an issue" don't buy a device with known problems if you're going to Linux. if you're using Linux to get some life out of ancient hardware then putting up with bullshit is par for the course
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Jul 28, 2017 21:14
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I dunno whether it's because i'm just so epic at setting linux up to actually work, but the last time i had to modify a configuration file was about 6 months ago to blackhole a hostname
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Jul 28, 2017 21:49
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I can even play Counter Strike: Global Offensive on linux no probs and pro framerates
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Jul 28, 2017 21:52
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obstipator posted:the main prob with linux is when u hit a error, ur stuck forever. with programming langs, u get a useful error and first result on google will help u. with linux, you have to read a billion man pages and none of the thibgs you try help or get you any closer. its good to be challenged in order to be motivated to do ur job, but linux is all about 100% roadblocks that arent interesting to solve keeps me employed op hth
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Jul 28, 2017 22:40
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LOL that you can get stuck in a login loop on linux. thanks for that one, x.org edit: and remember, as lovely as it can be, x.org is miles better than xfree86 
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Jul 28, 2017 22:43
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pram posted:keeps me employed op hth i don't think that helps him at all, pram hth
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Jul 28, 2017 22:55
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my professional advice is dont use desktop linux
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Jul 28, 2017 23:06
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qhat posted:It's a meme. Linux audio hasn't been an issue ever since creative sound cards fell out of fashion. sorry, but this is sort of a bad post. linux audio is funny because they have kept screwing *themselves* over in strange ways, it is one of those areas where the hardware has not been that much of an issue (e.g., notably, linux hilariously broke all audio for many years with the overengineered ALSA just as hardware mixing and similar became a completely irrelevant feature). creative hardware was especially straightforward, as it was always perfectly sb16-compatible, and the sb16 was and is one of those mindlessly simplistic sinks for audio data
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Jul 28, 2017 23:18
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Just Works for me
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one has to imagine that the alsa designers saw the deeply microsoft-flavor directsound, where you enumerated an interface which let you set up a callback to enumerate the audio formats, to only in practice have every application pick 44100hz/16bit pcm from the enumeration, or crash if it did not show up, and said "well, we can do better". they then set things up so you enumerated interfaces on which you enumerated outputs on which you enumerated access policies on which you enumerated format specification styles on which you enumerated formats, only to crash if you didn't find a interface, or an output on it, or a policy, or a format specification on that, or a format on that, which precisely agreed with what you expected not factual at all btw, alsa was just overly general in a way not at all relevant by the time it stabilized pulseaudio is 100% the correct solution though (in fact shockingly pragmatic for linux software), and the pain getting onto that was worth it if nerds don't turn and break it again
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Jul 28, 2017 23:26
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Enumerate my balls.
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Jul 28, 2017 23:31
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linux rulez, anything that involves xorg droolz
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Jul 29, 2017 00:26
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emoji posted:Enumerate my balls. code:
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Jul 29, 2017 00:30
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lol we let our devs use linux if they want so one of them decided he wanted to run arch instead of what we recommend (centos) and he doesnt know how to configure it for poo poo, cant get the wifi card working, so he has to check out a loaner laptop from IT every time he has a web meeting. but my boss doesnt want to force him to reinstall windows, the operating system that he actually knows how to use. smdh.
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Jul 29, 2017 00:34
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my bitter bi rival posted:lol we let our devs use linux if they want so one of them decided he wanted to run arch instead of what we recommend (centos) and he doesnt know how to configure it for poo poo, cant get the wifi card working, so he has to check out a loaner laptop from IT every time he has a web meeting. but my boss doesnt want to force him to reinstall windows, the operating system that he actually knows how to use. smdh. he sounds like someone who shouldn't be using linux let alone arch linux
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Jul 29, 2017 00:36
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which all seems fine, but then forcing him to install centos instead seems perfectly reasonable (i assume you have solutions lined up for wifi etc at that point, and giving him a hand to preserve his home dir and whatnot)
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Jul 29, 2017 00:37
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qhat posted:he sounds like someone who shouldn't be using linux let alone arch linux this is entirely correct.
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Jul 29, 2017 00:37
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he also has a centos desktop and cant explain why he needs two linux machines esp when he cant even do his job on one of them. he is also a cs phd 
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Jul 29, 2017 00:39
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my bitter bi rival posted:he is also a cs phd this explains everything
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Jul 29, 2017 00:40
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qhat posted:this explains everything lmao ya
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Jul 29, 2017 00:41
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sounds like a bad OS (for an idiot to use, at the computer olympics)
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Jul 29, 2017 00:53
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obstipator posted:idk what that is and im going to ignore your suggestion and just use windows aix was a more elegant weapon for a more civilised age 
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Jul 29, 2017 03:24
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emoji posted:Enumerate my balls.
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Jul 29, 2017 04:06
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:aix was a more elegant weapon for a more civilised age soothing pastels. i like it
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Jul 29, 2017 04:12
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:aix was a more elegant weapon for a more civilised age the largest aix community im aware of is sick with anime 
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Jul 29, 2017 04:42
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fedora gnome combines the power and speed of fedora with the epic window management and grace of gnome 3. blissful. i rather use this OS than pump the cum from my balls onto the floor, OP. truly incredible.
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Jul 29, 2017 04:52
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why not do both?
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Jul 29, 2017 05:01
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my second job was as an aix admin (they were using db2 obv) i remember getting a bunch of new power 7 servers they were sick as gently caress. everything else was terrible though and i missed linux 
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Jul 29, 2017 09:46
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 it weighed like 300 lbs lol
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Jul 29, 2017 09:48
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OP will never experience pure bliss with i3wm.
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Jul 29, 2017 11:02
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linux is cool cus it makes me feel like hacker man just like the yospos style does
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Jul 29, 2017 11:23
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I've never met or talked to anyone who used or recommended gentoo
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its reason for existing is pretty simple really: linux from scratch is a fun hobbyist thing, but too difficult for a lot of people. so what if you made linux from scratch except you didn't do anything from scratch? the kind of people who enjoy it sort of follows directly from those origins
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