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Monos Bullet posted:I can critique capitalism on my macbook pro at starbucks all i want. the constitution guarantees it exactly right, the bill of rights is basically the only good thing we can salvage from the enlightenment era politics, but if we want to save them, capitalism isn't the way, bc soon the mindless mechanisms of capital will find that authoritarian governments make it easier for markets and profits
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Helpimscared posted:Implying you have to just opt out of modern society if you critique capitalism
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Aug 4, 2017 19:45
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elect costco to run the entire government with sinegal at the helm all stores will be costco all healthcare is costco all jobs are costco
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Helpimscared posted:Implying you have to just opt out of modern society if you critique capitalism put down that sword ya serf don't you know its OWNED BY THE LORRRRFFFFFFFF
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Aug 4, 2017 19:46
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Strudel Man posted:There's a lot of responses that they're just taking basic part in society and you can't criticize them for that. Which has some weight I suppose, but still, the iphone specifically is such an icon of consumerism. You don't need an iphone or Starbucks, these  jokers don't even attempt to back up their words with actions and eagerly participate in the capitalism they pretend to hate. Like yea you probably need some sort of computing device but if you are constantly buying consumer electronics and a phone every other year you really can't pretend to give a poo poo about the slave like conditions people go through to provide those devices.
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Aug 4, 2017 19:46
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Xaris posted:elect costco to run the entire government with sinegal at the helm That would be pretty good actually I think
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I was there in NY when Occupy first started. I have old pictures of the insane signs they made, and the tinfoil-hat pamphlets they would have posted. I think a lot of these same people are in Antifa, which also has no direction besides "BREAK poo poo!! THEY WON'T LISTEN OTHERWISE!".
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Aug 4, 2017 19:47
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Strudel Man posted:You don't have to opt out, but it certainly doesn't lend your message credibility if you're using the premier example of trendy marketing. yes being trapped in the hellscape of late capitalism means we shan't use the means which it provides to attack it because uhh eheh hhhh uhhhh my credibility???
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ram that goldman's sacks right up my gaping rear end in a top hat i loving love freddie got mae fingered
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Aug 4, 2017 19:48
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:You don't need an iphone or Starbucks, these you literally can't be anti slavery if your food is made by slaves and you eat it to survive HOT TAKES 2017 COMING ATCHA
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Helpimscared posted:Implying you have to just opt out of modern society if you critique capitalism This is just a pathetic excuse / strawman made by keyboard activists.
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Aug 4, 2017 19:49
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slaves how you gonna revolt when you literally eat the masters corn??? you wanna get cobbed???
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:This is just a pathetic excuse / strawman made by keyboard activists.  let me tell you about true activism, it's all about gaming lets start with activision mmmm yessss?
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Aug 4, 2017 19:51
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Commie NedFlanders posted:yes being trapped in the hellscape of late capitalism means we shan't use the means which it provides to attack it because uhh eheh hhhh uhhhh my credibility???
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Aug 4, 2017 19:51
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Commie NedFlanders posted:exactly right, the bill of rights is basically the only good thing we can salvage from the enlightenment era politics, but if we want to save them, capitalism isn't the way, bc soon the mindless mechanisms of capital will find that authoritarian governments make it easier for markets and profits lol i like you commie ned. more communists need jesus imo
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Aug 4, 2017 19:51
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:This is just a pathetic excuse / strawman made by keyboard activists. So uhh what's this very narrow path of rejecting the system just enough to effectively change it but not so much you are living in a shed in the woods which will finally make the American People understand? I guess you have to have an android... and a windows PC? what else is on the list? Or are computers problematic in general?
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Traditionally we use pamphlets. I like pamphlets
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Aug 4, 2017 19:52
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Commie NedFlanders posted:actually the Left is rising now, majority of millennials and generation z are anti-capitalist, marxism is the hot new thing all the teens are trying these days lol, wrong. Gen z are going the other way. They are MUCH more conservative and very anti-PC culture, anti-big brother, etc. And it's 100% the fault of millenials. In fact, according to this article, gen z is the most conservative generation since 1945! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/02/17/student-lefts-culture-intolereance-creating-new-generation-ofconservatives/
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Aug 4, 2017 19:53
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It's like, I don't know what these blokes want to do. They're all like "RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I don't like society creating places to store money conveniently, we should just carry gold deblunes in pouches and barter millet for pickle juice". Take your fuckin Fred flinstone crusty fake city hippy rear end on up the street and protest something with an idea because money doesn't have any ideas.
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Monos Bullet posted:lol i like you commie ned. more communists need jesus imo thank you i agree entirely, hopefully when the left realizes the power of radical emancipatory theology they will stop corn cobbing themselves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_KF5p57WHE
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Ham Sandwiches posted:So uhh what's this very narrow path of rejecting the system just enough to effectively change it but not so much you are living in a shed in the woods which will finally make the American People understand?
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Pawn 17 posted:lol, wrong. i agree with being anti-PC identity politics bc the democrats holding up identity politics as their sole horizon utterly failed and got us trump but the True Left has answers it's socialism or barbarism right now. gen z is either alt right frog boys or young beautiful socialist children of God
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Aug 4, 2017 19:55
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Strudel Man posted:I think a reasonable effort is probably enough for most people. What is the reasonable effort? I'm asking for a description. SO it involves: Selling your iphone on CL if you have one Making sure to get rid of your macbook - big giveaway that you might have a beret or be a hipster What else is on the list, clothes I imagine? No short jeans? What about beards? What else is involved before you can start talking to your fellow humans about what you think could be different?
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Aug 4, 2017 19:56
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Ham Sandwiches posted:What is the reasonable effort? I'm asking for a description. SO it involves:
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Aug 4, 2017 19:58
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Strudel Man posted:Not buying overpriced brands popular for their manufactured image is a pretty simple thing. 'Style' of clothes seems irrelevant. What happens if you already owned that poo poo before you got woke, maybe you got it as a gift?? gently caress!!! How were you supposed to know??? Do you have to burn it or like... mail it to Africa and find a village kid that can use it and post pics of him typing away on your social feed to show that you fully atoned?
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Aug 4, 2017 19:59
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Didn't they have something really retarded at their meetings where they had an speaking order based on privilege? I love the modern day leftists they're disorganized pussies who will never achieve anything except getting their teeth kicked in.
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Aug 4, 2017 20:00
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i went to a pepe ralley to support our glorious leader and i'm a big buffed up beefcake of a man. the lieberals showed p to counter proest and i loving punched their pussy iphones right into their faces and all the lieberal women took off theri clothes and jumped my dick right theret true story
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Aug 4, 2017 20:03
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Ham Sandwiches posted:What happens if you already owned that poo poo before you got woke, maybe you got it as a gift?? gently caress!!! How were you supposed to know??? Do you have to burn it or like... mail it to Africa and find a village kid that can use it and post pics of him typing away on your social feed to show that you fully atoned?
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Aug 4, 2017 20:03
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Jokes on you I use an android phone
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Xaris posted:i went to a pepe ralley to support our glorious leader and i'm a big buffed up beefcake of a man. the lieberals showed p to counter proest and i loving punched their pussy iphones right into their faces and all the lieberal women took off theri clothes and jumped my dick right theret It's all those limp dick pansy pseudonatural tuck job feminazi wankboys that make the badboy neocon such a deviant indulgence for their intellectually unsatisfied asses. 
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Strudel Man posted:No, that seems a bit unreasonable. Though if you were given it as a gift, it might be appropriate to return it, explaining to the person who gave it to you that you don't want to encourage exploitative practices. Ok and is there like a card, an uber center of sorts for revolutionaries, which I can get validated or something and I can show that I have returned all ill gotten capitalist items and now that I am free of capitalist sin I can begin the movement properly?? And what the gently caress do we gain w/r/t discourse if people you don't agree with do that, exactly?
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Helpimscared posted:I mean as disorganized as it was I thought they brought attention to some legitimate complaints about income inequality and capitalism generally loving us over. Guess thats just me tho.
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Ok and is there like a card, an uber center of sorts for revolutionaries, which I can get validated or something and I can show that I have returned all ill gotten capitalist items and now that I am free of capitalist sin I can begin the movement properly??
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Strudel Man posted:You seem to be treating this as some sort of gotcha situation, rather than a reasonable effort to live by the principles you espouse. SO imagine every single occupy dude sold his macbook and iphone before getting in a tent Would you care more about their message? What does them wearing the clothing of propriety (I take a vow of capitalist poverty, my aim is pure) do to change what they are actually loving saying and whether it has merit or not!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 4, 2017 20:22
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Ride The Gravitron posted:The man literally scoffed when I spoke those words and leaned in and quietly said to me “B****** like you need to learn their place”. Stunned, I screamed “ASSAULT!” 
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The movement much like the tea party was hijacked by corporate agitators. Protesting as a concept no longer works in YOOL because the police can just send a scrawny dude into the protestors to throw a bottle at the cops and justify them shutting the whole thing down. Also a leaderless movement is going to get hijacked but once you name a leader it is easy for the corporate controlled media to ignore your causes and focus on attacking the person.
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not to mention the media will just ignore and downplay everything you do, and whenever they interview someone there it's the weirdo on the unicycle smoking weed and none of the organizers
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I hope they "occupy" a mass grave lmbo
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Ham Sandwiches posted:SO imagine every single occupy dude sold his macbook and iphone before getting in a tent It's like the guy with a string of affairs talking about the sancity of marriage. People won't, or shouldn't, care what he says about it, because he clearly doesn't care himself. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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