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It helps. I go to NA, personally, but it's much the same thing.
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I've started a new job that requires working really long hours, i need the cash, and I stand there at work and think about doing heroin. I want to get high. I'm going to go to a NA meeting in a few hours but if I really wanted I could drive to the city and buy dope instead.
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Did you have to go to AA or did you want to go to AA, OP?
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Anti-aircraft technology is interesting and all but I couldn't keep the interest week after week.
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Isaac posted:The meeting was good i feel good and im glad i went Now go get those tires knocked out champ
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What city are you in op? Best of luck on your quest to quit, but I seriously would never recommend AA to anyone. Unless you're religious then whatever.
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Sep 12, 2017 15:35
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Make tfab your higher power Isaac
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wait you can get wives at these OP? I always thought like "hey stop drinking..." was easier but now it all makes sense lol
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1gnoirents posted:wait you can get wives at these OP? I always thought like "hey stop drinking..." was easier but now it all makes sense lol It's not a good idea but lots of people do it source: I did it
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a hot gujju bhabhi posted:What city are you in op? Best of luck on your quest to quit, but I seriously would never recommend AA to anyone. Unless you're religious then whatever.
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I know a couple people in AA and what always gets me is how cult like it is, they have "open" meetings where non alcys can go to but then "closed" meetings only alcoholics can go to Everything seems so secretive and my friends only hang out w their AA buds now I guess whatever help keeps you sober but I think I read that AA is no better than quitting on your own
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Sep 12, 2017 16:40
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Hey Isaac! How's Pecky Becky?
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Do it ironically posted:I know a couple people in AA and what always gets me is how cult like it is, they have "open" meetings where non alcys can go to but then "closed" meetings only alcoholics can go to He went to full lock up rehab voluntarily (I think 6-8 weeks, maybe more), this is just follow up after his release.
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Do it ironically posted:I know a couple people in AA and what always gets me is how cult like it is, they have "open" meetings where non alcys can go to but then "closed" meetings only alcoholics can go to AA at least in the USA has always been an Evangelical brainwashing/recruitment tool of people at their most vulnerable time. That's why they have all these prayers and everything included. There was a case where an atheist guy refused court ordered AA on religious grounds and the judge sentenced him to prison for refusing it, and then FFRF got involved to appeal. Not sure where it went but they really need to shut all that poo poo down and have an actual organization that helps people. Especially if state courts are allowed to force you to go and refusing is automatic or extended prison sentence.
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I think it's key to remember to focus on one little obstacle at a time instead of looking at your escape from addiction as a literal buzzkill and so far out of reach. Good luck man.
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AA works for some people and could be a good foundation for a more effective treatment program if people in the program weren't so dogmatic about it. You'd think the 12 steps were handed down by god on stone tablets. Instead they condescend and patronize people with religious hangups; they reject outright new science/evidence that contradicts the big book; they oppose effective replacement therapies and often shame addicts into not taking their psych meds; and in the end they're happy to blame dead addicts for failing the program, since the program is perfect. What a waste of a good start.
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poverty goat posted:AA works for some people and could be a good foundation for a more effective treatment program if people in the program weren't so dogmatic about it. You'd think the 12 steps were handed down by god on stone tablets. Instead they condescend and patronize people with religious hangups; they reject outright new science/evidence that contradicts the big book; they oppose effective replacement therapies and often shame addicts into not taking their psych meds; and in the end they're happy to blame dead addicts for failing the program, since the program is perfect. What a waste of a good start. I felt the same way which is why I couldn't fully embrace 12-step programs, but I couldn't deny that there are a lot of really good ways of changing my perspective on my addiction, life, and outlook. Taking inventory of my life and being brutally honest with myself are my biggest take-aways from AA/NA. Everything else for me was covered with SMART recovery and meetings.
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Isaac posted:There was a friendly bird hanging around today and i dug up some worms and fed them to it. Later a bird swooped me cause it was protecting its nest. You seem pretty boring, OP. Maybe you should start drinking.
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it always seemed to tank the framerate more than the resolution justified. It's not so bad with FXAA or MSAA, but modern engines tend to support overrendering natively.
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Rad Russian posted:AA at least in the USA has always been an Evangelical brainwashing/recruitment tool of people at their most vulnerable time. That's why they have all these prayers and everything included. There was a case where an atheist guy refused court ordered AA on religious grounds and the judge sentenced him to prison for refusing it, and then FFRF got involved to appeal. Not sure where it went but they really need to shut all that poo poo down and have an actual organization that helps people. Especially if state courts are allowed to force you to go and refusing is automatic or extended prison sentence. Both of my parents are in AA and I have been to more meetings than most drunks. What you describe is an issue of the "rehab facilitators" (often church orgs with local gov funding) that have co-opted AA and made it part of their official rehab program.While AA does refer to surrendering yourself to a "higher power" (this can be anything you find to be greater than yourself) they are very quick to emphasize that it is non-denominational group - I have known Jews, Christians, and Atheists alike who have sought out AA of their own fruition without being forced on religion. Virtually everyone I have ever heard describe AA as "Christian menace" was forced to go via court order and typically at a Christian operated "recovery center". That said, I can understand the apprehension, and don't think it would ever help me with any vice. Those who say it works claim they wouldn't be alive without it so "whatever floats your boat" I suppose. Do it ironically posted:I know a couple people in AA and what always gets me is how cult like it is, they have "open" meetings where non alcys can go to but then "closed" meetings only alcoholics can go to Closed meetings are not the norm and are usually reserved for step work or people who are anxious about being open in such a setting. As I said previously, I have been attending meetings since I was a child and have seen several other observers introduce themselves to a warm welcome (usually social work students). With regard to your friends it sounds like they may be trying to surround themselves with people who are in the same struggle, while it is a bit weird I don't think you should feel slighted. Most people I have known that have taken to drinking too much and living at the bar do so as a social lubricant so it's not farfetched to see them doing the same in their AA circles.
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Zorodius posted:it always seemed to tank the framerate more than the resolution justified. It's not so bad with FXAA or MSAA, but modern engines tend to support overrendering natively. I've never understood the difference and hate games that list all the options I don't know
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My higher power is a half man half walrus who says inga awoo suck my dick you fuckman, as is his custom.
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How was the meeting Isaac?
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where do the spouses go? open meatings?
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:UK English they lost they should speak American Op stay safe
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:where do the spouses go? open meatings? My house  Al-Anon
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Jim Barris posted:I've started a new job that requires working really long hours, i need the cash, and I stand there at work and think about doing heroin. I want to get high. I'm going to go to a NA meeting in a few hours but if I really wanted I could drive to the city and buy dope instead. MY NIGGA HAVE U TRIED LSD???
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Good for u OP, I am glad it works for you. AA isn't a part of my sobriety, I found it too dogmatic of course and the people way too pushy like they'd say in the meetings "take what works for you" and then in groups or after the meeting everyone would be like "you have to do the steps this way, its the only way that really works and you have to do it all fast like NOW" and I didn't like that so I stopped going to meetings after like two weeks. They probably all think I'm still drunk and/or dead. Actually being drunk AND dead sounds p. cool. Whenever I die I want to be a drunken ghost and haunt people drunkenly.
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Former DILF posted:MY NIGGA HAVE U TRIED LSD??? one of the AA co-founders was pro LSD
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also sponsors are creepy, i went to a meeting with someone one time and like afterwards everyone is rushing up to you introducing themselves trying to be your sponsor i was like lmao chill out dudes im not an alcoholic
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Do it ironically posted:also sponsors are creepy, i went to a meeting with someone one time and like afterwards everyone is rushing up to you introducing themselves trying to be your sponsor i was like lmao chill out dudes im not an alcoholic AA sounds way weirder then NA.
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AA is good you can hear alcoholics talk about what worked for them to get sober and live a life they enjoy. NA to me was alot more "my dog died today and i wanted to do some heroin". It varies froup to group. I like some and dont like others
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Hey Issac hope you are doing well my friend, also please give some Pecky Becky updates.
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Pecky becky went missing and is presumed dead
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maybe just drink a beer or liquor sometime and not other times OP! grow up OP!!!!!11
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Bamabalacha posted:AA is pretty lovely for a lot of people even if you take out the religion part. Unfortunately, it's also the only form of ongoing support available for a lot of people. I went along to a local AA meeting with a friend of mine who'd been mandated by a court to attend and almost everyone there had taken up another habit to replace alcohol. Lolie fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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I dont think courts send people to AA here. Theres SMART recovery which they send people to and its often a bunch of crackheads who dont wanna be there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYgdoecq-PE
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Isaac posted:I dont think courts send people to AA here. Theres SMART recovery which they send people to and its often a bunch of crackheads who dont wanna be there. It's technically not the courts who do it in Sydney. They just mandate supervised drug and alcohol programmes. Then probation and parole officers push people into AA (which defeats the whole "voluntary" and "anonymous" aspects of AA). SMART is good for people who loathe 12 step programmes, but you're never going to get a high success rate from mandatory participation (and it creates problems for people voluntarily seeking services when places are occupied by those who've been ordered to attend).
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AA is a religious scam on par with Scientology. Just chug, you weirdo.
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