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FaradayCage
May 2, 2010

El Boot posted:

Pretty sure they were South African and Rhodesian flags

South Africans are Nazis. Haven't you watched Lethal Weapon 2?

Who's the Kaffir Lime Leaves Lover now, eh?

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the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

Breaking news: The shooter wasn't a black african antifa, he was a trump supporting white redneck nazi 311 fan. Thanks for the fake news OP

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

COMRADES posted:

Antifa doesn't "build their base" lmao. Why does anyone think it is some organized hierarchical organization it is amazing.

what is the hierarchy of the nazis in the US?

El Boot
Mar 18, 2009

Thank Dog It's Friday

FaradayCage posted:

South Africans are Nazis. Haven't you watched Lethal Weapon 2?

Who's the Kaffir Lime Leaves Lover now, eh?

Fair

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Schweinhund posted:

what is the hierarchy of the nazis in the US?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_organizations#Canada_and_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Brotherhood_of_Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Nations

quote:

Aryan Nations is a white supremacist[1] religious organization originally based in Hayden, Idaho. Richard Girnt Butler founded the group in the 1970s, as an arm of the Christian Identity organization Church of Jesus Christ–Christian. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has called Aryan Nations a "terrorist threat",[2] and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network" in the United States.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammerskins

quote:

The Anti-Defamation League describes them as the United States' best-organized neo-Nazi skinhead group,[1] with the Hammerskin Nation website boasting six chapters in the United States and chapters existing in Canada, France, Italy, Germany, Hungary, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, New Zealand and Australia.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vanguard_(American_organization)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Vanguard

quote:

The National Socialist Vanguard is a Neo-Nazi group founded and led by Rick Cooper, and currently based in The Dalles, Oregon.[1] It has focused its efforts on recruiting high school students.[2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance

quote:

White Aryan Resistance (WAR) is a neo-Nazi white supremacist organization in the United States founded and led by former Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Tom Metzger. It is based in Warsaw, Indiana, and is incorporated as a business.



e: you want me to keep going or?

COMRADES fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Sep 30, 2017

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT
when my mom made me go to church I was so bored I wished that an angry black man would come in and perform a mass shooting on me too

Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

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Schweinhund posted:

Antifa is fascist and builds their base through "mass public displays". Should they be shut down by violence too?

Hahahaha, what the hell is wrong with your brain.

ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO UTILISES VIOLENCE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES IS FASCIST HURF A DURF.

-schweinhund

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

morally adept posted:

Hahahaha, what the hell is wrong with your brain.

ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO UTILISES VIOLENCE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES IS FASCIST HURF A DURF.

-schweinhund

Thank god we have these brave centrists to step forward and take a stand on not stepping forward and taking a stand.

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

VikingSkull posted:

ok, lemme put the football game on

GOD DAMMIT

Oh god I can't watch football because the bad men took a knee instead of standing, or did something else happen

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

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Guy Mann posted:

e: you want me to keep going or?
Is there a hierarchy? Who is the leader? You think there aren't antifa groups like those? Do I need to post facebook links?


Guy Mann posted:

Thank god we have these brave centrists to step forward and take a stand on not stepping forward and taking a stand.

Or just maybe use other tactics like education or peaceful anti-protests instead of dressing up like a terrorist and throwing rocks at people.

Trauma Dog 3000
Aug 30, 2017

by SA Support Robot
Enjoying watching Americas descent into chaos ITT

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Schweinhund posted:

dressing up like a terrorist

impossible, most of these people aren't brown

FaradayCage
May 2, 2010

Schweinhund posted:

Is there a hierarchy? Who is the leader? You think there aren't antifa groups like those? Do I need to post facebook links?

I think you're not a nazi, you just like debating.

Get a better hobby. Debating is for two kinds of people:

1.) Intelligent and knowledgeable people that would like to make the world better.

2.) People that love to win debates.

For the latter case, you can usually categorize every one of their responses into a dumb category. The unfortunate thing is they ALSO know about the dumb categories. The debate turns into a debate about debates instead of a debate about the original issue.

And I loving hate those people. God they are smug worthless assholes. It's like an Illusionist claiming to be a Wizard.

You're not a genius.

You know a trick.

gently caress off.

(Not talking to you now necessarily. I just got really into a rant about halfway through.)

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

FaradayCage posted:

I think you're not a nazi, you just like debating.

Get a better hobby. Debating is for two kinds of people:

1.) Intelligent and knowledgeable people that would like to make the world better.

2.) People that love to win debates.

For the latter case, you can usually categorize every one of their responses into a dumb category. The unfortunate thing is they ALSO know about the dumb categories. The debate turns into a debate about debates instead of a debate about the original issue.

And I loving hate those people. God they are smug worthless assholes. It's like an Illusionist claiming to be a Wizard.

You're not a genius.

You know a trick.

gently caress off.

(Not talking to you now necessarily. I just got really into a rant about halfway through.)

Source your quotes.

FaradayCage
May 2, 2010

EorayMel posted:

Source your quotes.

Sounds suspiciously ad hominem.

You have a nice day, now.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Guy Mann posted:

Thank god we have these brave centrists to step forward and take a stand on not stepping forward and taking a stand.
I don't know if you know what fascist means. Or anyone in this thread. Or me. Or anyone anymore for that matter. Can like, aliens invade or something so we can call any militaristic action we don't like Spagnorfstic or something in the future?

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

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FaradayCage posted:

I think you're not a nazi, you just like debating.

The hierarchy argument is stupid, but they brought that up. I just think promoting violence is bad and counterproductive. Nazis and insane people use the same justification as antifa. They think they are morally justified to use violence so they do it. Saying it's ok for antifa to use violence just normalizes using violence for whatever dumb cause anyone believe in, including crazy people like in the op. And there are better ways to stop racism than to throw rocks at people. You should just be against all violence and not try to find exceptions to it especially when the real reason is probably just because you get off on seeing people punch nazis.

FaradayCage
May 2, 2010
Why would people get off on seeing people punch nazis?

Like - what's the appeal?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

It's almost like an ideology conflated with eugenics is so easy to (rightfully) demonize that Hitler is more frequently conflated with Satan than Stalin is, despite the latter having a much higher body count and also being a prominent enemy of the West.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

FaradayCage posted:

Why would people get off on seeing people punch nazis?

Like - what's the appeal?

Why do people like Quentin Tarantino movies? Because people like violence.

Pitdragon
Jan 20, 2004
Just another lurker

mind the walrus posted:

I don't know if you know what fascist means. Or anyone in this thread. Or me. Or anyone anymore for that matter. Can like, aliens invade or something so we can call any militaristic action we don't like Spagnorfstic or something in the future?

Spagnorfstic actions lead to an unprecedented increase in productivity, sure the whiny SJW communazis would have you believe that humanity was "enslaved" but if you read these blog posts you can see how this is just anti-Spagnorfstic propaganda and humanity is actually better off than they have ever been before.

Okay actually I can't find the blog post links but this stuff is obvious and I'm not about to do your homework for you anyway

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Killers who share my beliefs are mentally ill, killers who share opposite beliefs are ideologically motivated.

FaradayCage
May 2, 2010

Schweinhund posted:

Why do people like Quentin Tarantino movies? Because people like violence.

Wow dude. Lol.

Let's all get off on videos of babies being punched then.

I'll try asking again:

"Why would people get off on seeing Martin Shkreli punched?"

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Schweinhund posted:

The hierarchy argument is stupid, but they brought that up. I just think promoting violence is bad and counterproductive. Nazis and insane people use the same justification as antifa. They think they are morally justified to use violence so they do it. Saying it's ok for antifa to use violence just normalizes using violence for whatever dumb cause anyone believe in, including crazy people like in the op. And there are better ways to stop racism than to throw rocks at people. You should just be against all violence and not try to find exceptions to it especially when the real reason is probably just because you get off on seeing people punch nazis.

Sounds like something a nazi would say.

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

General Dog posted:

Killers who share my beliefs are mentally ill, killers who share opposite beliefs are ideologically motivated.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
At least it wasn't another school/university shooting.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

FaradayCage posted:

Wow dude. Lol.

Let's all get off on videos of babies being punched then.

I'll try asking again:

"Why would people get off on seeing Martin Shkreli punched?"
People enjoy violence against those they perceive as having done wrong, or as being enemies?

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Schweinhund posted:

The hierarchy argument is stupid, but they brought that up. I just think promoting violence is bad and counterproductive. Nazis and insane people use the same justification as antifa. They think they are morally justified to use violence so they do it. Saying it's ok for antifa to use violence just normalizes using violence for whatever dumb cause anyone believe in, including crazy people like in the op. And there are better ways to stop racism than to throw rocks at people. You should just be against all violence and not try to find exceptions to it especially when the real reason is probably just because you get off on seeing people punch nazis.

The thing is like, what the gently caress are you talking about because this wasn't some antifa action at all so why the comparison even?

There is no antifa organization right now going "yeah good that's what we stand for!" ??? Who is saying this was okay exactly?

e: Like how are you talking about Nazis not deserving to be punched in a thread about a church shooting :wtc:

Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

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COMRADES posted:

e: Like how are you talking about Nazis not deserving to be punched in a thread about a church shooting :wtc:

Because the op lazily tried to either pin this on or connect this with anti-fa.

FaradayCage
May 2, 2010

Strudel Man posted:

People enjoy violence against those they perceive as having done wrong, or as being enemies?

Go a bit further.

Why did people enjoy public executions?

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

FaradayCage posted:

Go a bit further.

Why did people enjoy public executions?
Seems like that'd probably fit under "perceived as having done wrong."

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
Just doing God's work.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

that antifa guy cant keep getting away with this

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT
Who Is Auntie Fa?

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Strudel Man posted:

Who Is Auntie Fa?
A racist, fascist communist serial killer from what I heard.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Navin Johnson posted:

Kill 'em all (best Metallica album).

no one else is going to argue against this?
Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzaLaFmJUM

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

I didnt really pay attention but ride the lightning is the only good album because it has metallicas only good song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqGuaAl6Ic

Repo Man
Nov 19, 2005

Strudel Man posted:

Who Is Auntie Fa?

Auntie Semites sister.

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

FaradayCage posted:

Go a bit further.

Why did people enjoy public executions?

Public entertainment. It was a thing to do as it was held in public forum, it allowed the common masses to observe, and it happened with official procession. A veritable parade, with officials, and horses, and proclamations, all the fancy trappings.

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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Former DILF posted:

I didnt really pay attention but ride the lightning is the only good album because it has metallicas only good song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqGuaAl6Ic

thats from the previous album dummy
good song tho

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