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reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
Money you can break down into strips or some poo poo representing fractional value of the bill would be convenient as hell tbh.

As long as they weren't easy to tear accidentally.

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Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
I can't believe doctors, witches, and soothsayers cost money in those times. How regressive!

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!

reignofevil posted:

Money you can break down into strips or some poo poo representing fractional value of the bill would be convenient as hell tbh.

As long as they weren't easy to tear accidentally.

They got into all kinds of shenanigans like shaving coins because they were actually made of valuable metal.

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice
i wou;d\\l;dn't give a single talon to gently caress your mother, again :grin:

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990
Grimey Drawer
I don't get it either but

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

people who support euphemisms like "sex work" because they want to reduce love and sex to a purely economic transaction

This is like intel-level retarded.

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
if I get good service on my steak dinner ill tip two rabbits

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice

Ein cooler Typ posted:

if I get good service on my steak dinner ill tip two rabbits

suuuure you will, you said something similar around harvest time, i hope you drop short from a tall tower :rolleyes:

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

how many swords do you think it took to buy a magic (flying) carpet

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

The Dregs posted:

They got into all kinds of shenanigans like shaving coins because they were actually made of valuable metal.

This is why modern coins have textured edges, btw, so that people can't clip the edge. I think it was Isaac Newton who invented this.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

does anybody else really like that national treasury movie starring nicholas cage

i do

Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

IDGI

the progression of modern society has been towards the pre-eminence of money power. The whole point of attacking religion, family, nation, class, and race is to eliminate these barriers to buying things with money. These are the same people who support euphemisms like "sex work" because they want to reduce love and sex to a purely economic transaction. And naturally, they think it's normal to buy votes too - the media being the transducer that transforms money into votes. This is why Clinton's loss was such a huge blow to these types - Clinton had the most money, so of course she was supposed to win.

Almost there, you left out the part about the INTERNATIONAL JOOOISH CONSPIRACY.

Lucky Guy
Jan 24, 2013

TY for no bm

Statutory Ape posted:

how many swords do you think it took to buy a magic (flying) carpet

one, if you hold it against the carpet dealer's throat

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

morally adept posted:

Almost there, you left out the part about the INTERNATIONAL JOOOISH CONSPIRACY.

I can't wait for the part of the script where someone else calls you a shill.

Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

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John_A_Tallon posted:

I can't wait for the part of the script where someone else calls you a shill.

Ok enough dunking on MAGA CHUDS. I'm currently laughing at the cost of a month of dancing lessons.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Chief McHeath posted:

I like dying by 45.

The olde life expectancy numbers are skewed because of high child/infant mortality but if you lived to adulthood and weren't working in a mine or something you had a pretty good chance of living at least into your 50s or 60s

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
here is a stone tablet with a bunch of prices from the roman empire.

Diocletian posted:

The prices for the sale of individual items which no one may exceed are listed below.

Denarii

I. Wheat 1 army modius a 100

Barley 1 army modius 60

Rye 1 army modius 60

Millet, ground 1 army modius 100

Millet, whole 1 army modius 50

Panic grass 1 army modius 50

Spelt, hulled 1 army modius 100

. . . . . . . .

Beans, crushed 1 army modius 100

Beans, not ground 1 army modius 60

Lentils 1 army modius 100

Pulse 1 army modius 80

Peas, split 1 army modius 100

Peas, not split 1 army modius 60

. . . . . . . .

Rice, cleaned 1 army modius 200

Barley grits, cleaned 1 modius 100

Spelt grits, cleaned 1 modius 200

Sesame 1 army modius 200

. . . . . . . .

II. Likewise, for wines:

Picene 1 Italian sextarius 30

Tiburtine 1 Italian sextarius 30

Sabine 1 Italian sextarius 30

. . . . . . . .

Falernian 1 Italian sextarius 30

Aged wine, first quality 1 Italian sextarius 24

Aged wine, second quality 1 Italian sextarius 16

Ordinary 1 Italian sextarius 8

Beer, Gallic or Pannonian 1 Italian sextarius 4

Beer, Egyptian 1 Italian sextarius 2

. . . . . . . .

III. Likewise, for oil:

From unripe olives 1 Italian sextarius 40

Second quality 1 Italian sextarius 24

Salt 1 army modius 100

Spiced salt 1 Italian sextarius 8

Honey, best quality 1 Italian sextarius 40

Honey, second quality 1 Italian sextarius 24

. . . . . . . .

IV. Likewise, for meat:

Pork 1 Italian pound 12

Beef 1 Italian pound 8

. . . . . . . .

Leg of pork, Menapic or

Cerritane, best 1 Italian pound 20

Pork mincemeat 1 ounce 2

Beef mincemeat 1 Italian pound 10

Pheasant, fattened 250

Pheasant, wild 125

. . . . . . . .

Chickens 1 brace 60

. . . . . . . .

Venison 1 Italian pound 12

. . . . . . . .

Butter 1 Italian pound 16

. . . . . . . .

V. Likewise, for fish:

Sea fish with rough scales 1 Italian pound 24

Fish, second quality 1 Italian pound 16

River fish, best quality 1 Italian pound 12

River fish, second quality 1 Italian pound 8

Salt fish 1 Italian pound 6

Oysters 100 100

. . . . . . . .

VII. For wages:

Farm laborer, with maintenance (daily) 25

. . . . . . . .

Carpenter, as above (daily) 50

. . . . . . . .

Wall painter, as above (daily) 75

Picture painter, as above (daily) 150

. . . . . . . .

Baker, as above (daily) 50

Shipwright working on a seagoing ship, as above (daily) 60

Shipwright working on a river boat, as above (daily) 50

. . . . . . . .

Muleteer, with maintenance (daily) 25

Veterinary, for clipping and preparing hoofs (per animal) 6

Veterinary, for bleeding and cleaning the head (per animal) 20

Barber (per man) 2

. . . . . . . .

Sewer cleaner, working a full day, with maintenance (daily) 25

. . . . . . . .

Scribe, for the best writing (per 100 lines) 25

Scribe, for second-quality writing (per 100 lines) 20

Notary, for writing a petition or legal document (per 100 lines) 10

. . . . . . . .

Elementary teacher per boy (monthly) 50

Teacher of arithmetic, per boy (monthly) 75

Teacher of shorthand, per boy (monthly) 75

. . . . . . . .

Teacher of Greek or Latin language

and literature, and teacher of geometry, per pupil (monthly) 200

Teacher of rhetoric or public speaking, per pupil (monthly) 250

Advocate or jurist, fee for a complaint 250

Advocate or jurist, fee for pleading 1000

Teacher of architecture, per boy (monthly) 100

Check room attendant, per bather 2

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice
How much for the Merchant's daughter? :grin:

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Beef cheaper than pork, what a time to be alive.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

I made bread once and it took a while so I'm going to suggest bread and gold were equal in worth. Maybe bread was a lil more valuable because you could eat it and not die from gold poisoning.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Lucky Guy posted:

one, if you hold it against the carpet dealer's throat

Daang tru

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
gently caress this sewer cleaning racket, I'm gonna catch a loving pheasant

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Rutibex posted:

here is a stone tablet with a bunch of prices from the roman empire.

the romans anticipated dead gay forums?!

Two Free Toppings
Jul 1, 2007

SUCK
THE
SHIT
OUT
OF
MY
OWN
ASSHOLE

DACK FAYDEN posted:

the romans anticipated dead gay forums?!


Neat. Wonder how much an account cost back then. I bet you could barter with Lowtax - maybe with a little Wine, Second Quality One Italian sextarius? I heard dude goes nuts for that poo poo.

Two Free Toppings fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 25, 2017

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

In 2nd edition a two hander cost 25 gp and a blunderbus was 500. hth

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

My dead gay empire

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe
Was just at a hotel with the bylaws posted on the door, but it was from about 100 years ago. It said something like if you entrust the innkeeper with the safekeeping of your horse, or carriage, or both, and they are hurt/damaged/stolen you are entitled to remuneration up to $40

Duke Pukem
Oct 23, 2010

Three cheers for dark beer!


SniperWoreConverse posted:


A two-bit whore would gently caress for a quarter I guess.

one bit for each tooth was the going rate, I hear

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

IDGI

the progression of modern society has been towards the pre-eminence of money power. The whole point of attacking religion, family, nation, class, and race is to eliminate these barriers to buying things with money. These are the same people who support euphemisms like "sex work" because they want to reduce love and sex to a purely economic transaction. And naturally, they think it's normal to buy votes too - the media being the transducer that transforms money into votes. This is why Clinton's loss was such a huge blow to these types - Clinton had the most money, so of course she was supposed to win.

i'm writing a whole thing on it, but the cliffnotes are
1. actually wealthy people don't know or care how much money they have. all their bank accounts, shares, etc, could all vanish but it wouldn't matter because their wealth is in one of the five really actually valuable forms: power, access, attention, reputation and novelty. their lifestyle wouldn't change a bit, and this fact is how you know if you are actually wealthy or not, the degree to how losing all your stuff would affect your life
2. tech makes people wealthier, generally. hobo today has better access to medicine (in non US world) than a king a hundred years ago, etc.
3. while money is pretty great at making supply/demand communication systems where lies are kind of impossible thereby preventing starvation, cf great leap forward, but tech makes faster even better communication systems that are far cheaper than money (see point 4), and once Logistics is solved supply and demand will matter waaaay less
4. money is too loving expensive. the financial sector is massive and contributes nothing to society in actual value. it just exploits informational gradients, which they call arbitrage, and optimising money out entirely would frees the world up like a half a billion man years of talent per year that can be used to solve actual problems and contribute actual value.

chaosbreather fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Oct 26, 2017

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

chaosbreather posted:

i'm writing a whole thing on it, but the cliffnotes are
1. actually wealthy people don't know or care how much money they have. all their bank accounts, shares, etc, could all vanish but it wouldn't matter because their wealth is in one of the five really actually valuable forms: power, access, attention, reputation and novelty. their lifestyle wouldn't change a bit, and this fact is how you know if you are actually wealthy or not, the degree to how losing all your stuff would affect your life
2. tech makes people wealthier, generally. hobo today has better access to medicine (in non US world) than a king a hundred years ago, etc.
3. while money is pretty great at making supply/demand communication systems where lies are kind of impossible thereby preventing starvation, cf great leap forward, but tech makes faster even better communication systems that are far cheaper than money (see point 4), and once Logistics is solved supply and demand will matter waaaay less
4. money is too loving expensive. the financial sector is massive and contributes nothing to society in actual value. it just exploits informational gradients, which they call arbitrage, and optimising money out entirely would frees the world up like a half a billion man years of talent that can be used to solve actual problems and contribute actual value.

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Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Lucky Guy posted:

one, if you hold it against the carpet dealer's throat

Mugging people who sell magic is a good way to get cursed.

I don't know what sort of curses carpet-dealers have, but I wouldn't risk it, you could end up with a crippling Trampling Fetish.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

the cool thing was back in those days you could just join the navy and basically get drunk all day on your booze ration and you'd get like a pound of meat a day on top of it. that and any time you put into the port most captains would let the men basically load the ship with whores.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mulaney Power Move posted:

the cool thing was back in those days you could just join the navy and basically get drunk all day on your booze ration and you'd get like a pound of meat a day on top of it. that and any time you put into the port most captains would let the men basically load the ship with whores.

And the rest of the time you were trapped on a ship in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of burly sweaty men and also extremely high mortality rates

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

but if you sailed with lucky jack you could end up with a pocket full of guineas

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mulaney Power Move posted:

but if you sailed with lucky jack you could end up with a pocket full of guineas

Sorry pay is in arrears right now. But you can sell your back pay to us at a ridiculously low rate in order to get the cash for some cheap rotgut to get sick with

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

i'll take the rotgut and the whores mate

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mulaney Power Move posted:

i'll take the rotgut and the whores mate

We're all out of whores right now. You can have a cabin boy for half th eprice

Duke Pukem
Oct 23, 2010

Three cheers for dark beer!


OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

We're all out of whores right now. You can have a cabin boy for half th eprice

I think you mean double

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
How much for a slave?

Is it more or less than my iPhone

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Dreddout posted:

How much for a slave?

Is it more or less than my iPhone

What sort of time frame are we talking here? It's the upkeep that really gets you, not the initial purchase

That's why they ultimately switched to wage slavery - you have to feed and care for a slave, and you have to be careful to not overwork them to maximize their useful lifespan. A wage slave you can just squeeze mercilessly then throw them away when they break.

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John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

Dreddout posted:

How much for a slave?

Is it more or less than my iPhone

It depends on the when and where, but if we're sticking with the spirit of the thread then buying an 18th century slave would be comparable to buying a car today, roughly.

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