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Feb 2, 2019 13:10
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"[img posted:https://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/titles/11/58/00177879.0001.png[/img]" post="492207754"]Look at him. He knows what he's talking about. incel knight
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Feb 2, 2019 13:17
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I'm a Finn by choice, it's hosed up.
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Feb 2, 2019 13:25
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Free Market Mambo posted:I'm a Finn by choice, it's hosed up. Jenkem, not even once
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Feb 2, 2019 13:28
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I heard Finland is a land full of mysteries and magic I've been thinking of assembling a group of mighty adventurers to penetrate the deep bogs of the finnish lands to see what hides there in the darkness
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Feb 2, 2019 13:33
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Finns talk funny. Finns drink a lot. Not sure if these are related.
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Feb 2, 2019 13:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rwc3VGvlRY
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Feb 2, 2019 13:39
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They can operate in a strange way those Finns. GBS has taught me everything I need to know about Findom.
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Feb 2, 2019 13:50
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Telebite posted:Do they still have paprika flavored Pringles? Most civilised countries do.
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Feb 2, 2019 14:03
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Why Russians invade bog?
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Feb 2, 2019 14:26
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Telebite posted:Do they still have paprika flavored Pringles? They call it "sweet paprika" now, as opposed to sour paprika I guess
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Feb 2, 2019 14:29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWuyrlXI7nA
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Feb 2, 2019 14:37
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snack eater posted:this cool dude's youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNMxu66oh9M the finnish masaokis
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Feb 2, 2019 14:43
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Shut up that’s a cool Av.
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Feb 2, 2019 15:36
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Literally posting from a tent on a frozen bog right now.
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Feb 2, 2019 19:37
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Kak posted:I like The Dudesons 
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Feb 2, 2019 19:45
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I'm Canadian but I've been to Finland a bunch of times: -the one and only word I've managed to learned is kiitos -they take their lunch breaks very seriously -their beer is gross -their gin is good
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Feb 2, 2019 20:07
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Went to Helsinki a few years ago, beautiful city, visit if you get the chance
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Feb 2, 2019 20:09
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The one thing I learned about Finland is that you never trust a Finn who says they know a good restaurant.
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Feb 2, 2019 20:26
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Cyril Sneer posted:I'm Canadian but I've been to Finland a bunch of times: I'd pit finnish generic mass market lager against almost any in the world. Not sure what you had but that doesn't seem right.
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Feb 2, 2019 20:27
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Nurge posted:I'd pit finnish generic mass market lager against almost any in the world. Not sure what you had but that doesn't seem right. That's a bold claim when the Czech republic exists. Germany and Belgium are also probably up there.
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Feb 2, 2019 20:32
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Grevling posted:That's a bold claim when the Czech republic exists. Germany and Belgium are also probably up there. Never been a fan of Czech beer personally. I'll cede the other two.
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Feb 2, 2019 20:39
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Nurge posted:I'd pit finnish generic mass market lager against almost any in the world. Not sure what you had but that doesn't seem right. Karhuu
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Feb 3, 2019 03:04
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All the Fins I know are hilarious and they love roasting in the sauna
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Feb 3, 2019 03:38
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Cyril Sneer posted:Karhuu best beer
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Feb 3, 2019 05:21
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Are you gonna Finnish what you start? 
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Feb 3, 2019 07:09
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Finland is more like winland. They kicked USSR rear end so hard its almost unbelievable, and than during the siege of leningrad outright refused to close their portion and allowed 1 and only supply line this city had. Fierce fighters and good friends.
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Feb 3, 2019 07:57
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Are there other countries that are real goddamn proud of wars they've lost?
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Feb 3, 2019 07:59
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The US?
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Feb 3, 2019 08:06
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I don't know if they are proud but they should be
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Feb 3, 2019 08:08
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they're ok I guess as long as they're led by swedish officers
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Feb 3, 2019 08:11
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There is Finland who is humble about their badassery and there is Sweden who are smug as gently caress about never accomplishing anything worthy of note
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Feb 3, 2019 08:23
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Sekenr posted:I don't know if they are proud And then some. Sekenr posted:but they should be The first purely defensive bit was good. But afterwards when Adolf Hitler invites you to play in the woods of Russia one should make up a loving excuse and stay home.
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Feb 3, 2019 08:30
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Ooooh. the holier than thou pontificator arrived. You don't have much choice when you are attacked by Stalin and even in that situation found it in them to spare the enemy instead of brutal revenge that germans urged them to do.
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Feb 3, 2019 08:43
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Sekenr posted:Ooooh. the holier than thou pontificator arrived. You don't have much choice when you are attacked by Stalin and even in that situation found it in them to spare the enemy instead of brutal revenge that germans urged them to do. It was more that they were deathly afraid of provoking the Soviets to take active action against them than any kind of mercy. They essentially went in and occupied ground that the Soviets abandoned to be able to send forces elsewhere. Furthermore the Winter War wasn't so much due to the inherent badassery of Finns, as it was the truly abysmal state of the Red Army, especially in terms of overall leadership (there was an acute lack of officers and those who were available were usually poorly trained and poorly suited, talented officers being quickly promoted to senior positions to fill vacant ranks) and organization. Couple that with putting arch-incompetent Voroshilov in charge and the fact that the Finns knew the local terrain, were well-versed in skiing and other skills useful in winter warfare, had decent to good senior leadership and were well-motivated to fight for their country (it hadn't been that long since the civil war against the communists) and you got what happened. It should be noted though that once Voroshilov was replaced and they put Timoshenko in charge, who was relatively more imaginative, the Soviets actually broke the Finns decisively very quickly (principally by leveraging their overwhelming superiority in pure numbers of artillery), despite the still horrendous state of their armed forces' organization.
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Feb 3, 2019 08:54
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Sekenr posted:Ooooh. the holier than thou pontificator arrived. You don't have much choice when you are attacked by Stalin and even in that situation found it in them to spare the enemy instead of brutal revenge that germans urged them to do. "We just HAD to invade, honest!" I'm very happy that the Soviet Union didn't occupy Finland but don't think us invading way past the old border and then getting our poo poo pushed in helped all that much. Suur-Suomi can suck my rear end.
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Feb 3, 2019 09:00
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Randarkman posted:It was more that they were deathly afraid of provoking the Soviets to take active action against them than any kind of mercy. They essentially went in and occupied ground that the Soviets abandoned to be able to send forces elsewhere. Well, this I disagree with, siege of Leningrad was way past provoking or not provoking. quote:Furthermore the Winter War wasn't so much due to the inherent badassery of Finns, as it was the truly abysmal state of the Red Army, especially in terms of overall leadership (there was an acute lack of officers and those who were available were usually poorly trained and poorly suited, talented officers being quickly promoted to senior positions to fill vacant ranks) and organization. Couple that with putting arch-incompetent Voroshilov in charge and the fact that the Finns knew the local terrain, were well-versed in skiing and other skills useful in winter warfare, had decent to good senior leadership and were well-motivated to fight for their country (it hadn't been that long since the civil war against the communists) and you got what happened. Not completely sure what you are trying to say here. It was 700000 soviet soldiers vs 340000 finnish ones and 32 finnish tanks vs 2.500 soviet which is the lowest estimate. Not even mentioning aircraft. Sure, you can handwave away the enormous soviet superiority to bad leadership, but isn't it impressive? If a midget kicks my rear end in a fight that I started, it is kind of pathetic to explain later that I was in a bad mood and sad and tired. What is this about Finns knowing the local terrain, of course they know their terrain, this is something you must plan for when you invade.
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Feb 3, 2019 09:20
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Sekenr posted:Not completely sure what you are trying to say here. It was 700000 soviet soldiers vs 340000 finnish ones and 32 finnish tanks vs 2.500 soviet which is the lowest estimate. Not even mentioning aircraft. Sure, you can handwave away the enormous soviet superiority to bad leadership, but isn't it impressive? If a midget kicks my rear end in a fight that I started, it is kind of pathetic to explain later that I was in a bad mood and sad and tired. What is this about Finns knowing the local terrain, of course they know their terrain, this is something you must plan for when you invade. Which to a large extent the Soviets didn't do. Not to mention that invading a country with harsh winters in the winter in the first place is a pretty bad idea. The Soviets were fighting in brown overcoats and launching massed infantry assaults through deep snow, and sending in tanks unsupported. Also it wasn't just bad leadership, it was endemic and widespread organizational disorder in addition to the Stalin having assigned just about the worst overall commander he could have. What I'm saying is that the the actual advantages the Finns had, that they were familiar with the terrain and had skills that helped them in winter warfare* (not to mention that they were defending rather than attacking in these conditions), became almost insurmountable for the Soviets due to just how badly prepared they were for any kind of warfare, not to mention an offensive in the midst of winter in northern Europe. *It should also be mentioned that Finnish soldiers weren't like amazingly well-trained or anything, most of them were barely trained reservists and teenaged draftees. Sekenr posted:Well, this I disagree with, siege of Leningrad was way past provoking or not provoking. Of course. But Leningrad was holding and the Finns weren't advancing further, so there really wasn't a pressing need to deal with the Finns. As far as they were concerned they'd rather have the Finns sit at the border and not have to divert troops away from the front with the Germans than deal with them. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Feb 3, 2019 |
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Feb 3, 2019 09:30
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If memory serves Stalin really thought his treaty with Hitler was solid and used the opportunity to gut the Red Army officer corps in a frenzy of paranoid purging.
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Feb 3, 2019 09:45
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CaptainSarcastic posted:If memory serves Stalin really thought his treaty with Hitler was solid and used the opportunity to gut the Red Army officer corps in a frenzy of paranoid purging. The purges began in '37, M-R was in '39 just before the invasion of Poland. The Treaty with Hitler mostly encouraged the Soviets that they were now free to press their claims around Europe, because of the secret clauses to the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact.
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