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baw posted:mcgovern beat him by 1 lol wasn't McGovern like the Goldwater of the Dems, he was the furthest left nominee they've had
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Apr 21, 2021 20:39
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Maximo Roboto posted:wasn't McGovern like the Goldwater of the Dems, he was the furthest left nominee they've had mcgovern and mondale are the two leftmost nominees since fdr but iunno about comparing the two. mcgovern was probably more comparable to goldwater because his anti-war policy was fairly out of step with contemporary public opinion
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Apr 21, 2021 22:14
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Jesse Jackson would've won.
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Apr 21, 2021 22:15
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Chuka Umana posted:Jesse Jackson would've won.
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Apr 21, 2021 22:17
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Wasn't Reagan not uber popular yet in the early 80's? IIRC it wasn't until he left office that he was officially crowned God Emperor by the GOP and the dem establishment So the Dems throwing that race in 84 is an extra lol
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Apr 21, 2021 22:17
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Feldegast42 posted:Wasn't Reagan not uber popular yet in the early 80's? IIRC it wasn't until he left office that he was officially crowned God Emperor by the GOP and the dem establishment no he was vulnerable on the economy until '83 and was extremely popular in '84, hence the results for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
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Apr 21, 2021 22:19
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Feldegast42 posted:Wasn't Reagan not uber popular yet in the early 80's? IIRC it wasn't until he left office that he was officially crowned God Emperor by the GOP and the dem establishment Unemployment was still persistently high in 84 but inflation had plummeted and so did oil and general cost of living.
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Apr 21, 2021 22:28
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i say swears online posted:mcgovern was probably more comparable to goldwater because his anti-war policy was fairly out of step with contemporary public opinion that and the electoral blowout and their subsequent effects on their respective parties though idk what Mondale's effects were, his loss didn't lead to triangulation did it
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Apr 22, 2021 00:57
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Maximo Roboto posted:that and the electoral blowout and their subsequent effects on their respective parties yes, the anti-union right wing of the dems became ascendant following '84 and they took over in '92. joementum's probably still writing a good effortpost lol
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Apr 22, 2021 01:06
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Maximo Roboto posted:wasn't McGovern like the Goldwater of the Dems, he was the furthest left nominee they've had yes, but unlike Goldwater, McGovern didn't lose because he was the furthest left, he lost because people liked Nixon more if he'd held off his campaign until 1976 he would have won in a landslide
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Venomous posted:yes, but unlike Goldwater, McGovern didn't lose because he was the furthest left, he lost because people liked Nixon more yeah he also ran a terrible campaign in general saying you back your VP 1000% after it was revealed that he had received electroshock therapy for depression and then dropping him a few days later isn't a great look
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i keep seeing flags at half mast and thinking “why are we doing this for prince philip?” then i remember ol walt
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Apr 27, 2021 18:43
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Get this: Falter Mondale He is famous for faltering
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Apr 27, 2021 19:10
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baw posted:yeah he also ran a terrible campaign in general Really good read on McGovern. https://twitter.com/newrepublic/status/704360558041157632 Would like to see something similar for Mondale though this is the article's only reference to Walt: quote:The nascent DLC argued that the defeat of Carter’s former vice president, Walter Mondale, in 1984 further demonstrated the failure of McGovernism, despite the fact that Mondale’s platform of deficit-slashing “New Realism” actually marked the party’s continued shift to the right. Maximo Roboto has issued a correction as of 19:45 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Apr 27, 2021 19:42
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disappointed that this thread isn't talking about where's the beef more
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Chuka Umana posted:Jesse Jackson would've won. drainbow the swamp imo
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Yossarian-22 posted:disappointed that this thread isn't talking about where's the beef more wheres the beef of this thread
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