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I'm crossposting this question I asked on shmups forum's hardware board because it's getting no replies, maybe someone here knows:quote:I have a PVM 20M2MDU that I use with a supergun, recently I've gotten tired of the geometry being off on many boards and have been adjusting it in the service menu to suit the game and keeping a list of what vertical and horizontal setting works with each game. Sometimes "extreme" geometry settings needed to get everything visible and correctly proportioned on some games cause some warping of the image in corners or edges and this is kind of worrying, I'm just wondering if changing this setting often can lead to any kind of damage?
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Huh, apparently playing a PAL copy of Super Mario All-Stars in 60Hz on a region-modded SNES causes some interesting effects involving flashing colors. Mario 3 is the least affected, only getting a flashing line at the top of the screen, and in Mario 1 the colors glitch out at random intervals (at first I thought the Framemeister's sync settings were hosed). Mario 2, on the other hand, ends up looking like that "Disco Mario" romhack I-Mockery reviewed a million years ago.  Playing in 50Hz fixes the glitching, but then you're playing in 50Hz and gently caress that noise. edit: I could swear I have played this cart in 60Hz mode before and didn't have any problems then DMorbid fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Nov 4, 2017 |
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Nov 4, 2017 12:30
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d0s posted:I'm crossposting this question I asked on shmups forum's hardware board because it's getting no replies, maybe someone here knows: This is not going to damage the CRT any more than running a CRT period damages it. It just looks slightly ugly. You could potentially risk damage if you were opening the case and using the physical adjustments on the board frequently, since those give you near-full control and severe adjustments done frequently might cause damage if you were very unlucky, but anything you set in the service menu should be well within acceptable limits for the CRT's overall hardware.
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Nov 4, 2017 16:15
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I recorded some video of the Mario All-Stars glitch. Epilepsy warning! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm5uOIqOtaQ
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Nov 4, 2017 22:26
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When did repro cartridges go and become a thing? They're all over Ebay now.
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Nov 4, 2017 22:45
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Doc Morbid posted:Huh, apparently playing a PAL copy of Super Mario All-Stars in 60Hz on a region-modded SNES causes some interesting effects involving flashing colors. https://youtu.be/UHU8g5s8LnQ For what it's worth, that video from over ten years ago seems to match your symptoms exactly. The fact it's fine at the standard PAL video frequency suggests that there might be some timing issue; perhaps Nintendo optimized it solely for standard PAL?
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Nov 4, 2017 22:46
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Casimir Radon posted:When did repro cartridges go and become a thing? They're all over Ebay now. I wish Nintendo would sue the gently caress out of ebay because it is ridiculous how they do nothing about it.
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Nov 4, 2017 23:32
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Casimir Radon posted:When did repro cartridges go and become a thing? They're all over Ebay now. They really infested eBay when you could start ordering them from Chinese manufacturers for $3 each.
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Nov 5, 2017 00:05
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Casimir Radon posted:When did repro cartridges go and become a thing? They're all over Ebay now. When certain regular cartridges became untouchably expensive for the average person. Then the repros got really cheap and they started making them for all kinds of games, not just expensive and rare ones.
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Nov 5, 2017 01:17
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https://medford.craigslist.org/vgm/d/gamecube-complete-in-box-with/6374032339.htmlquote:$100 or trade for working panasonic 3DO system even as the resident 3do fan, i'm still like like lol what @ this
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Nov 5, 2017 02:59
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financially racist posted:https://medford.craigslist.org/vgm/d/gamecube-complete-in-box-with/6374032339.html I picked up a NOS FZ-1 for $90 BIN off ebay last year (and the guy had 10+ more in inventory) so this doesn't seem that unreasonable? Edit: Looked at ebay and holy hell, who's paying $300+ for these things? I almost felt guilty buying one at $90. EgillSkallagrimsson fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Nov 5, 2017 |
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Nov 5, 2017 03:06
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wtf i paid $30 for my 3do som time ago, had no idea they ballooned that much in price
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Nov 5, 2017 03:22
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And what made repro carts that SAY they're repro carts on the listing instead of just making fakes and selling them full price, is when eBay sellers figured out that people would buy them without reporting them to eBay as long as you knocked the price down a ways.
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Nov 5, 2017 03:26
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Is my TV too blurry or is this exactly what I should expect by connecting my Saturn with composite cable? I have a feeling this TV had better quality some years ago (just got it back this week).   And no, there's no support for anything else like component, S-Video or whatever. 
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Nov 5, 2017 03:27
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Like the only repro anyone needs are whatever you want to play that isn't supported by the flash cart of that particular system. Why would someone pay for each individual bootleg game besides those, idgi
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Nov 5, 2017 03:44
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Negrostrike posted:Is my TV too blurry or is this exactly what I should expect by connecting my Saturn with composite cable? I have a feeling this TV had better quality some years ago (just got it back this week). Seems pretty blurry to me, especially through composite (US TV, NTSC format and likewise for the console?). Like, it won't be glaringly obvious, but how prominent is that rainbow fringing at the edges of sprites and stuff that usually pops up with composite video? If this TV has been in someone else's possession and they used it regularly, they may have turned the sharpness way down to soften the picture. Otherwise, if adjusting whatever sharpness controls are available for the TV doesn't have any apparent effect, it could just be that your TV is just kind of meh? How do other consoles look on it?
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Nov 5, 2017 04:55
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Kthulhu5000 posted:Seems pretty blurry to me, especially through composite (US TV, NTSC format and likewise for the console?). Like, it won't be glaringly obvious, but how prominent is that rainbow fringing at the edges of sprites and stuff that usually pops up with composite video? If this TV has been in someone else's possession and they used it regularly, they may have turned the sharpness way down to soften the picture. I only have a Saturn so far and yeah, this TV is super meh (it's even mono!). I still can play games pretty well but I'm kinda hosed if I have to read some really small text. The "rainbow" doesn't pop out too much.  Urgh. Might as well start looking for something decent.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:32
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financially racist posted:https://medford.craigslist.org/vgm/d/gamecube-complete-in-box-with/6374032339.html holy poo poo what is wrong with this world? i bought a “broken” 3do with the intention of doing a write up 2 or 3 threads ago but mine was fully functional. it was sold as broken. wat? these aren’t rare.. i even modded mine to 240p
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Nov 5, 2017 05:48
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Negrostrike posted:(it's even mono!) Unless it's like, a trinitron from the 80's this is a sure sign of a low quality TV
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Nov 5, 2017 08:08
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Kthulhu5000 posted:https://youtu.be/UHU8g5s8LnQ The game was reprogrammed to use the SNES's 239-line mode, which often causes problems in 60Hz mode (it either cuts into available Vblank time or throws off HDMA timing, I forget). They also did this to the second PAL revision of Super Mario World and it exhibits some similar issues. All New Sonic fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Nov 5, 2017 |
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Nov 5, 2017 08:59
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All New Sonic posted:The game was reprogrammed to use the SNES's 239-line mode, which often causes problems in 60Hz mode (it either cuts into available Vblank time or throws off HDMA timing, I forget). They also did this to the second PAL revision of Super Mario World and it exhibits some similar issues. Speaking of 60Hz, it's really a pain in the rear end to shop for CRT TVs in Europe. At least here in  , nobody who sells the things online seems to have any idea what 50/60Hz even means, nor do they provide pictures of the inputs unless you specifically ask. I do like using the Framemeister with my 55" LCD, especially for split screen stuff and recording, but sometimes it'd just be nice to play some old games with real scanlines and zero lag.I suppose I could bring the old Panasonic Quintrix aka Desk-Buster 5000 out of storage, but there's a reason I decided to retire it last year and went with the Framemeister. Basically, the screen geometry is all kinds of hosed, and no amount of fiddling about in the service menu will help because of Panasonic's image auto-adjusting "features". 
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Nov 5, 2017 13:05
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help im dying https://www.ebay.com/itm/112623238981
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Nov 5, 2017 16:41
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d0s posted:help im dying Now if they made it so it dumps out golden rings into the bottom tray whenever Sonic got hit, we'd have a product worth $900.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:52
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d0s posted:help im dying
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Nov 5, 2017 16:57
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Casimir Radon posted:When did repro cartridges go and become a thing? They're all over Ebay now. A long while. I bought a JP copy of Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario 3 off of eBay in high school and it was extremely obvious that it was a knock off.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:17
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GBA and DS titles have always had tons of bootlegs on ebay, but things like N64 and Mega Drive weren't so casually found until recently is what I think is being discussed.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:21
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A lot's going to depend on your definition of repro here, if you're talking "made to look like an original cartridge in the interest of commanding collectors' prices" that's definitely a more recent phenomenon, but I and many friends had several bootleg Famicom cartridges and pin converters in the late 80's, especially since Mario 3 was available way earlier that way. On top of the multi-in-1 cartridges (with 52-in-1 being an especially popular variant), there were also a lot of single-game carts, namely Mario 3, Mario Baby (rebranded Bio Miracle: Bokutte Upa!), and the Japanese Super Mario Bros. 2 (Lost Levels). They were common enough that at least some of the non-chain video stores also had them for rent. Here are pics of my Mario Baby cart + box that was put out by some shop in Montreal (based off the area code for the phone number on the back), while pitching a Famiclone.    
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Nov 5, 2017 17:41
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My favorite bootlegs are the ones that try very hard to look legitimate but always have one or two giveaways, like a GBA cart of some mediocre game that had "NINTONDO" on the back. Of course, can't mention this and not link the site full of pirate logos for the Game Boy.
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Nov 5, 2017 18:14
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univbee posted:Here are pics of my Mario Baby cart + box that was put out by some shop in Montreal (based off the area code for the phone number on the back), while pitching a Famiclone. So it really WAS called "Mario Baby" in bootleg circles? I heard about this but never saw an actual picture.
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Nov 5, 2017 18:47
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d0s posted:help im dying I’ve got a Craigslist alert for “arcade” and let me tell you, the only thing more sad than the mamebominations some people make is how proud their creators are and how highly they value them.
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Nov 5, 2017 19:22
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Fill me in on the inside joke about how MAME cabinets are terrible
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Nov 5, 2017 19:27
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canyoneer posted:Fill me in on the inside joke about how MAME cabinets are terrible Just take a look at how ugly that thing is built. That's the joke, that particular listing, but also the tons of similar builds. You can make real nice MAME machines but a lot of people don't bother.
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Nov 5, 2017 19:41
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They're generally just relatively lazily thrown together PC's with low quality off the shelf parts and a widescreen LCD monitor. You can make a good MAME cabinet, one was posted in this thread recently, but most people extremely don't care more than throwing an X-Arcade on a wood box and playing Super Mario World with it.
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Nov 5, 2017 19:44
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fishmech posted:Just take a look at how ugly that thing is built the joke of that particular one is that it's not even built, it's a PC inside of a video poker machine that the owner claims makes it "100x better quality than typical wooden arcade games" e: also why are these guys always happy to ship their atrocities freight but the people selling candy cabs (always in california) are strictly pickup only, gently caress yooooou. being on the east coast sucks balls d0s fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 5, 2017 |
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Nov 5, 2017 19:56
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Zamujasa posted:My favorite bootlegs are the ones that try very hard to look legitimate but always have one or two giveaways, like a GBA cart of some mediocre game that had "NINTONDO" on the back. this is intentional, old rear end bootlegging trick so that the people who are anal enough to care will notice and not buy it and not cause problems about returns or call the cops or beat you up. same reason nigerian price emails are worded badly on purpose e: here's a bootleg K&H breadboard renamed to "C&D", I like to think the choice of those particular two letters was intentional 
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Nov 5, 2017 20:06
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d0s posted:help im dying Mods plz namechange me to SEGA GENIUSES
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What some games to play to justify to keeping my PC Engine around? Out of all the systems I got lately, it the only one I very rarely play. Probably doesn't help the controller is so loving short that I have to pull it out to use.
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Nov 5, 2017 21:46
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Rirse posted:What some games to play to justify to keeping my PC Engine around? Out of all the systems I got lately, it the only one I very rarely play. Probably doesn't help the controller is so loving short that I have to pull it out to use. look through here http://www.videogameden.com/hucard.htm and here http://www.videogameden.com/cdrom.htm and pick stuff you like if you can't find anything you like out of those lists worth keeping the system around for you have terminal bad taste and should give the system to someone more deserving. pc engine controller extension cords are like 5 bucks on ebay d0s fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Nov 5, 2017 |
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Nov 5, 2017 22:36
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also you're probably gonna think one of the most fun parts about getting a system, exploring it's library and finding out what you like, is too hard or something so here's a list of PCE games i like hucard alien crush atomic robo kid blazing lazers/gunhed bomber man 93,94,etc cyber core devil's crush dragon spirit final lap twin final soldier gomola speed gradius kiki kai kai keith courage (warning: most people do not like this) kyukyoku tiger legendary axe metal stoker ninja spirit override pac-land psycho chaser rabio lepus special raiden r-type saint dragon shockman sidearms soldier blade splatterhouse super star soldier wonder momo w-ring xevious CD buster bros l-dis nexzr special rayxanber II rayxanber III psychic storm sapphire shubibinman 3 spriggan summer carnival alzadick super darius valis II valis III valis IV dracula x faussete amour galaxy keiji gayvan gate of thunder lords of thunder star parodier sylphia
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Rirse posted:Probably doesn't help the controller is so loving short that I have to pull it out to use. The controllers actually use a pretty standard din connector so extension cables are cheap and easy to find.
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