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loquacius posted:Is Jon Favreau usually smarter than this because every tweet posted has been 100% weasel word and it usually takes more than factional alignment to get the kind of fawning adoration PSA has he is a  elemental at heart so drumpf liberals cant get enough of him
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Also it took a whole lot of discussion of Jon Favreau before I figured out they weren't talking about the guy from Chef
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loquacius posted:Also it took a whole lot of discussion of Jon Favreau before I figured out they weren't talking about the guy from Chef the world would be better if the jon favreau from chef was the only jon favreau
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loquacius posted:Also it took a whole lot of discussion of Jon Favreau before I figured out they weren't talking about the guy from Chef You mean the guy from Swingers 
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loquacius posted:Is Jon Favreau usually smarter than this because every tweet posted has been 100% weasel word and it usually takes more than factional alignment to get the kind of fawning adoration PSA has no, they get attention because they were writers for obama they deserve basically none of it
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loquacius posted:It's only even woke in that they like to say woke-sounding things as a rhetorical tactic; they still don't want to actually help disadvantaged people because that would be difficult and/or require doing things See also, literally every Whiskey Juvenile post since the election.
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loquacius posted:Is Jon Favreau usually smarter than this because every tweet posted has been 100% weasel word and it usually takes more than factional alignment to get the kind of fawning adoration PSA has He signed onto this because of Slavitt and decided to dig a hole rather than own up to the fact that his friend snookered him.
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loquacius posted:Is Jon Favreau usually smarter than this because every tweet posted has been 100% weasel word and it usually takes more than factional alignment to get the kind of fawning adoration PSA has he worked for obama which makes him the most qualified podcast host in history
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Shear Modulus posted:he worked for obama which makes him the most qualified podcast host in history drat that's some good suck for breakfast
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i used to think jon favreau was dreamy, and at least had that going for him, as recently as last week. and then i saw him on live tv i am one to talk but he's got some tooth poo poo going on that really ruins his face's vibe i'm posting itt rn because trump is doing a suck phase
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they sat around and decorumed about trump & bernie all through the election and then were pretentious enough to rename themselves from the already-pretentious "keepin' it 1600", which at least is understandable as a brag about their credentials, to "pod save america", because i guess the obama crowd are the only people who can save the nation
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I listened to Favreau's Keeping it 1600 podcast a few times before the election, and they were just shilling for Hillary super hard and constantly assuring their listeners of her inevitable victory. Looking back, it's pretty lol
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Jazerus posted:they sat around and decorumed about trump & bernie all through the election and then were pretentious enough to rename themselves from the already-pretentious "keepin' it 1600", which at least is understandable as a brag about their credentials, to "pod save america", because i guess the obama crowd are the only people who can save the nation  i give them the benefit of the doubt, as writers, that the Pod Save / God Save thing is a knowing, tongue-in-cheek sendup of themselvestoo bad that's a fine line to walk and lol too bad perception is king
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WampaLord posted:I listened to Favreau's Keeping it 1600 podcast a few times before the election, and they were just shilling for Hillary super hard and constantly assuring their listeners of her inevitable victory. yeah it was kind of horrific honestly listening to them was the first time i felt deep in my bones that lanyards are mostly not malicious so much as really, really stupid while believing they're really smart
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Jazerus posted:yeah it was kind of horrific honestly Hanlon's Razor explains so much in life
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few days before the UK general election, while he was "helping" the loving Tories https://twitter.com/Messina2012/status/872792410572632066
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hillary and Bernie's policy positions were 99% the same! It’s true; they both wanted to preserve the system of private ownership of the means of production
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Captain_Maclaine posted:See also, literally every Whiskey Juvenile post since the election. Solidarity not charity, hope this helps
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GalacticAcid posted:few days before the UK general election, while he was "helping" the loving Tories always fun to bring this up when people double down on the idea that suggesting the democrats are bad at all because TRUMP! is borderline treason
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Jazerus posted:yeah it was kind of horrific honestly any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malevolence
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Taintrunner posted:always fun to bring this up when people double down on the idea that suggesting the democrats are bad at all because TRUMP! is borderline treason and of course obama himself calling up May to reassure her that the Tories would be winning out lol
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The reason people are for single payer goes deeper than just affordable healthcare, because otherwise we could just increase subsidies and regulation on insurance companies. We recognize, however, that they serve no function other than to skim profit and deny care. However, it’s furthermore unclear what benefit leaving the actual provision of care in the hands of private organizations serves. there does not seem to be a single person who has expressed support of single payer to actually opposes a national health system, so it is very weird to see how the conversation has focused solely on a plan that is on its face problematic. it is just emblematic of this weird took that progressives have of getting caught up in a slogan instead of actually thinking through what they want. The fight for 15 is another example. The movement started in 2012 to provide a living wage, and now we’re proposing to maybe raise the minimum wage to $15 by 2021 or some bullshit. $15 isn’t a living wage now, and it certainly won’t be in another three years.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:The reason people are for single payer goes deeper than just affordable healthcare, because otherwise we could just increase subsidies and regulation on insurance companies. We recognize, however, that they serve no function other than to skim profit and deny care. However, it’s furthermore unclear what benefit leaving the actual provision of care in the hands of private organizations serves. Didn't stop centrist Dems from saying "well actually $12 is an easier target"
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One of the funniest things to me was when David Dayen wrote a sincere and thoughtful piece advocating for universal healthcare under a multipayer scheme and everyone stated screeching about him being a bad dem or whatever. The dude was putting out ruthless denunciations of Obama’s handling of the financial and foreclosure crises for the entire Obama era. He diagnosed Federal mistreatment of Puerto Rico and Obama’s complicity & furtherance of it in like 2013 in a huge American Prospect piece. But of course he is a neolib bad dem because he rejected the suck zone’s magic words
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ikanreed posted:Didn't stop centrist Dems from saying "well actually $12 is an easier target" $12 is an easier target if you're worried about just passing something to raise wages in turn, a living wage is easier than seizing all capital But if you actually want to pass a living wage, $15 isn't it
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:$12 is an easier target if you're worried about just passing something to raise wages this is why you suck
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:$12 is an easier target if you're worried about just passing something to raise wages Okay, but in a vacuum, which is better? 12 or 15? loving coming in here and going "Well 15 ain't enough" doesn't help poo poo, pay your maid you loving fake leftist "I'm more commie than thou" $250k a year making motherfucker
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You get a minimum wage increase to $12 then you keep fighting to raise it even if they pass an indexed-to-cost-of-living-increase living wage you still fight for more
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loquacius posted:Is Jon Favreau usually smarter than this because every tweet posted has been 100% weasel word and it usually takes more than factional alignment to get the kind of fawning adoration PSA has he's my friends roommate from college fwiw. but every speech he wrote for Obama was nonstop weasel words and no one noticed since Obama had the charisma to sell a mushmouthed sentence full of "likely" qualifiers
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WampaLord posted:Okay, but in a vacuum, which is better? 12 or 15? In a vacuum, which is better? 12 or 7.25 but you want it to be 15?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:You get a minimum wage increase to $12 then you keep fighting to raise it And we're going to do the same poo poo with $15 but you act like we're not for some stupid loving reason WhiskeyJuvenile posted:In a vacuum, which is better? 12 or 7.25 but you want it to be 15? Woooooooooooooooosh $12 doesn't inspire anyone, that's the problem. If your argument is that $15 doesn't inspire anyone now because 3 years has passed, I need to see some evidence proving that.
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I thought we already settled this when Bernie said he'd vote for $12/hr
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:$12 is an easier target if you're worried about just passing something to raise wages Pay your maid, dipshit.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:love too eat inspiration Oh my god you're so loving dumb
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54.40/hr or fight
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Honestly it should be more like $20 an hour, $15 is the compromise
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well you see polling tells us that $15 is the optimal inspiration level and if anyone suggested $20 that would be less inspiring so we're targeting our campaign at what the polls tell us and furthermore
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