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Nebakenezzer posted:I'm glad to hear somebody say this; when I first read "The Zeppelin in Combat" a few years ago, this picture blew my mind for the same reasons. Isn't that the plane that collided with a Chinese fighter many moons ago and made an emergency landing?
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Nebakenezzer posted:Also: they copied an aircraft that's, what, 30 years old? I wouldn't call it a copy, to be honest; more a case of convergent evolution. The requirements that the Chinese have for a carrier-based AEW aircraft are likely very similar to those that drove the design of the E-2...it would make sense that the end result would be very similar (even though the aircraft in question here is a testbed and not the final product). After all, there are only a few shapes in aviation that are optimal given a set of performance criteria; it should come as no surprise that aircraft filling similar roles end up looking the same.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Isn't that the plane that collided with a Chinese fighter many moons ago and made an emergency landing? No, the Hainan Island plane was a P-3 Orion. Modified off a Lockheed Electra turbo passenger plane from the 60's. The E-2 is modified off a the Grumman C-2 purpose built carrier-capable transport...also from the 60's.
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So this showed up on my Facebook feed this morning, posted by the Thunder Over Michigan Facebook group: The caption was, "Look who just flew in!" They've been doing it all week, tempting me with teaser shots of B-25s parked on the flight line, or P-38s flying in over the airfield. The Kid and I are so ready.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Here's a question: what do you think are this thread's favorite aircraft? I think I have the first three figured out: Not that there's a trend in my thinking.
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InitialDave posted:Camel, Spitfire, Wellington, Lancaster, Lightning, Harrier, Tornado, Vulcan, TSR/2. Nah you're just reading the thread from the wrong timezone. (I love all those planes too)
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Nebakenezzer posted:Also: they copied an aircraft that's, what, 30 years old? More like 50.
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Just stood out side of my house and watched the Thunderbirds practicing for this weekends air show, I love the sound of jets flying at tree level over my house. I hope to get get out there this weekend to get some photos.
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Commanche pics from the museum at Fort Rucker for those interested (not mine): http://imgur.com/a/lbvOk Upon further inspection I noticed the wheels are flat now 
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Speaking of old things, and helicopters, the Chinook is awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DH2-kDLXk source
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hannibal posted:Speaking of old things, and helicopters, the Chinook is awesome. Gotta love the power to weight ratio on an unloaded cargo transport. It's like bobtailing in the sky.
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Nebakenezzer posted:1. SR-71 An-225 I'm a sucker for
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Sudo Echo posted:Gotta love the power to weight ratio on an unloaded cargo transport. It's like bobtailing in the sky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwm9BJYh2I Surely that's foreshortening or something, and they're not actually standing the thing on its nose. Though it would be the fastest way to get moving forward, and it is the USMC -- I have heard from several old soldiers that Marine aviators Edit: Can't post about CH-53E performance without also posting this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO0sRWCf9k4 Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Aug 3, 2012 |
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:So this showed up on my Facebook feed this morning, posted by the Thunder Over Michigan Facebook group: I will be there on Saturday! If you see a chubby guy standing around with a girl that is totally out of his league you can come up and ask me if I have stairs in my house or something.
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I live like 10 minutes from Thunder over Michigan, but I'm out of town In Hawaii, tail end of RIMPAC, getting drunk as poo poo and watching jets do their thing. There are some Canadian Hornet drivers here, but didn't see them flying around.
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Space Gopher posted:The F-4 isn't flawless in every aerial combat regime. It's the best in the world at BVR, and still competent at WVR. It'd be foolish to think that a bunch of cheap, outdated MiGs with guns, of all things, could ever pose a threat. I am really sorry for going back to this but once the Navy pilots got their training poo poo together they did infact go back to shitstomping the NVAF to the tune of a 13:1 kill ratio from 1970 on. Not getting suckered into the strenghts of your enemey's fight is and always will be a really big deal when it comes to winning.
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I am heading to the Oregon coast this week for a family reunion. I would like to sneak away and take in one of the air museums out there but I can't decide between the Evergreen Aviation museum or the Tillamook Air Museum. Anyone ever been to either of these? Any preferences or recommendations one way or the other?
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ManifunkDestiny posted:I am heading to the Oregon coast this week for a family reunion. I would like to sneak away and take in one of the air museums out there but I can't decide between the Evergreen Aviation museum or the Tillamook Air Museum. Anyone ever been to either of these? Any preferences or recommendations one way or the other? I've been to both, and they are quite different. None of the a/c at the Tillamook museum are cordoned off; you can walk right up to them, open hatches and stuff, pretty rad. Also their aircraft are pretty close to airworthy, and you'll see most of them have oil drip pans under the engines. The downsides are 1) It's kinda dark, and 2) there isn't much presentation, e.g. few informational placards, etc. Last time I was out there, you could go on board the mini Guppy, too. Evergreen is much more sorted out, but everything is on a NO TOUCHING basis. Apparently they have a 747 water slide there now?? Been a while since I've been there. Personally, I like Tillamook more because it feels more real, but if you're a plane nerd both places have a lot to offer. And with an early enough start you could do both places in a day.
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kill me now posted:I am really sorry for going back to this but once the Navy pilots got their training poo poo together they did infact go back to shitstomping the NVAF to the tune of a 13:1 kill ratio from 1970 on. Man in the box. Same poo poo since World War I still applies.
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InitialDave posted:Camel, Spitfire, Wellington, Lancaster, Lightning, Harrier, Tornado, Vulcan, TSR/2.  Any plane that looks like it should actually be in a sci-fi film automatically counts.  Also the accidental take-off a couple of years ago was funny:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCyNJ3-8fKY
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Itzena posted:You missed the Victor out. The Victor does have a cameo, however, at the end of sixties light comedy The Iron Maiden. Yes, I know, 
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Delivery McGee posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwm9BJYh2I It's not standing on its nose, the fuselage is tipped forward about 40-50 degrees though. And yes Marine aviators do enjoy their little pranks like dusting up random clusters of US troops in the middle of the Kuwaiti desert after a long patrol on the southern Iraq no-fly zone. Two Marine F-18s did it to us while we were sitting on a site security gig for a listening post close to the Kuwait / Iraq DMZ. They didn't get as low as they could have because there was a high tension power line nearby, but when they hit the power and climbed out the jet wash shook up our vehicles and the commo guys' shelters nicely.
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Lakedaimon posted:I will be there on Saturday! drat, son! I'm sorry I missed you. The kid and I were there today as well. From the opening rush 'til about 14:30. I didn't get many pictures, other than a couple of the German Armor and a profile of FIFI. It was a good show, my first Thunder Over Michigan and the first air show I've been to since I was about nine years old. Saw some good planes, saw some good demos, hung out in the air park which we don't usually get to do now that the airport has it fenced off, got inside the Privateer and the C-47, and talked with the  -rear end Hornet pilots from Oceana for a while.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:I am heading to the Oregon coast this week for a family reunion. I would like to sneak away and take in one of the air museums out there but I can't decide between the Evergreen Aviation museum or the Tillamook Air Museum. Anyone ever been to either of these? Any preferences or recommendations one way or the other? We went to Evergreen last Wednesday. Make sure to go early on a weekday. I believe there were more volunteers than visitors until 10 or 10:30. If your a vet, ask for the discount. I got $4 off for showing my Shellback card. The planes were roped off, but with good access. They charged $4 to crawl thru the B17, but you can only go up to the radio room (bomb bay doors are open). The "special" tour of the Goose is $25 for 6 people. I did not spring for that. The spaceflight building was good also. Highlight there was the Blackbird, ICBM's and the Apollo return vehicle suspended from a helo about 20ft off the ground. And yes, the waterpark has a 747 on the roof with multiple water slides coming out the side. 
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:drat, son! I'm sorry I missed you. The kid and I were there today as well. From the opening rush 'til about 14:30. I didn't get many pictures, other than a couple of the German Armor and a profile of FIFI. It was a good show, my first Thunder Over Michigan and the first air show I've been to since I was about nine years old. Saw some good planes, saw some good demos, hung out in the air park which we don't usually get to do now that the airport has it fenced off, got inside the Privateer and the C-47, and talked with the We didnt get there until like 12:30. But we got to see the cool flights, so thats what was important. Really couldnt see much of the ground combat, we were stuck in the corner down by the fake Panther and fake StuGs. Pleasantly surprised to see that most of the re-enactors actually looked passable and that they werent all like 300lbs or anything. Maybe we got there too late but I did not hear "Rock you like a Hurricane" once which is a disappointment. Maybe thats only at normal air shows. The Corsair wasnt on the scheduled list of planes so that was a nice surprise.
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Meydey posted:We went to Evergreen last Wednesday. Make sure to go early on a weekday. I believe there were more volunteers than visitors until 10 or 10:30. If your a vet, ask for the discount. I got $4 off for showing my Shellback card. The planes were roped off, but with good access. They charged $4 to crawl thru the B17, but you can only go up to the radio room (bomb bay doors are open). The "special" tour of the Goose is $25 for 6 people. I did not spring for that. I'm trying to remember where I've seen one of those 747s before...either at Ramstein AB in Germany or the airport in Rome, NY that used to be Griffis AFB.
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Godholio posted:I'm trying to remember where I've seen one of those 747s before...either at Ramstein AB in Germany or the airport in Rome, NY that used to be Griffis AFB. Evergreen is part of the CRAF and does quite a bit of DOD contract airlift, so Ramstein is a good bet.
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iyaayas01 posted:Evergreen is part of the CRAF and does quite a bit of DOD contract airlift, so Ramstein is a good bet. Yep, when I was stationed there I saw them all the time.
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Godholio posted:Nothing new there.  Forgot all about that. I was a kid when that happened, but it was on the news for a long-rear end time.
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Have an Atlas 5 mission planner's guide/ sales brochure It's really fascinating (and highly detailed) information on the Atlas 5 rocket, the rocket that sent Curiosity to Mars. Lots of graphs, charts, tables, and writeups. Kinda need to see them pitching a rocket for a market that shops for rockets like we might shop for a printer.
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kmcormick9 posted:Those are the ugliest hooters girls ever You haven't been to a lot of Hooters, I take it.
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Colonial Air Force posted:You haven't been to a lot of Hooters, I take it. Especially a hooters outside of the country.
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InitialDave posted:
It's at Bluegrass Army Depot, I know that much. I haven't gotten the story on the penguin yet.
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Is it Colonel-in-Chief Sir Nils Olav?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_fmy3xwjbM The LEMV has finally taken flight. I can't believe only one person taped it, so hopefully we'll see more videos pop up over the next couple days.
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Tekne posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_fmy3xwjbM The LEMV has finally taken flight. I can't believe only one person taped it, so hopefully we'll see more videos pop up over the next couple days. Insert irrational UAV fear here. 
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Legit lol'ed at the penguin. What the christ.
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