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Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

neogeo0823 posted:

Muse is reading what looks like a National Geographic magazine with a monkey in it.

I think he might be looking at the equivalent of monkey porn, given the main focus of that picture he's looking at.

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neogeo0823
Jul 4, 2007

NO THAT'S NOT ME!!

Matlock Birthmark posted:

I think he might be looking at the equivalent of monkey porn, given the main focus of that picture he's looking at.

I didn't wanna outright say it, but yeah, he's basically being the perverted old master right now.

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

neogeo0823 posted:

I didn't wanna outright say it, but yeah, he's basically being the perverted old master right now.

Hmm, I haven't really gotten the "old master" vibe from Muse. Of all the spirits we've seen so far, he's the most IDGAF about his spectral. Like he said, do what he does, whatever the hell he wants.

Like Eightfold obviously cared for Isabel, Lucifer seems to serve a mentor roll to Spender, Thunderdog is trying to get Isaac to listen to him, Scrapdragon hasn't talked yet, but Muse apparently doesn't give a poo poo about Ed's life.

Matlock Birthmark fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 27, 2016

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rand Brittain posted:

Grandpa seems okay with the idea of the train never coming back.

Heck, more than okay, he referred to the train as a bad thing and also tried to pressure Zarei into giving it up to him, though what his exact intentions were there are unknown.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Matlock Birthmark posted:

Hmm, I haven't really gotten the "old master" vibe from Muse. Of all the spirits we've seen so far, he's the most IDGAF about his spectral. Like he said, do what he does, whatever the hell he wants.

Like Eightfold obviously cared for Isabel, Lucifer seems to serve a mentor roll to Spender, Thunderdog is trying to get Isaac to listen to him, Scrapdragon hasn't talked yet, but Muse apparently doesn't give a poo poo about Ed's life.

I think Muse cares, and that he cares a lot, otherwise he wouldn't give Ed advice. And Muse's advice isn't awful either, he was spot on about Issabella being mad that Ed abandoned her when she needed him most for emotional support, and also that Ed was probably making it out to be worse than it actually was because he felt guilty and angry with himself. Nor is he wrong that Ed should push himself to get stronger if he's unhappy with his position in life. If Ed wants to be there for his friends he's also gotta be capable of it too.

So I think Muse cares. Just not about Ed's feelings.

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

Who What Now posted:

So I think Muse cares. Just not about Ed's feelings.

You might have a point ya. He doesn't seem to really care what Ed feels or even what he does. That said, when Ed asks him for advice, the information he provides isn't maliciously bad or anything.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
This comic needs more catharsis.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Matlock Birthmark posted:

You might have a point ya. He doesn't seem to really care what Ed feels or even what he does. That said, when Ed asks him for advice, the information he provides isn't maliciously bad or anything.

Honestly, most of the spirits seem to me like they could be just fine at mentoring people other than the spectral they are working with. Like, Isabel had what seemed like a relatively healthy relationship with Eightfold, and that is about it.

For example:

Muse's methodology would work with a certain type of character, who either needs to be taught to go with the flow or is already on their way to becoming like water.
Lucifer would be a bog-standard mentor figure were it not for Spender being a feckless idiot, thus forcing Lucifer into an antagonistic posture with an idiot manchild.
If the Storm God and Isaac didn't hate each other due to anime envy, the two of them could go on Justice adventures learning about the nature of both Justice and also agency.

My point is, Scrapdragon just needs more screen-time and then he'll be the perfect giant snake mentor figure for Max.

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

karmicknight posted:

My point is, Scrapdragon just needs more screen-time and then he'll be the perfect giant snake mentor figure for Max.

Your point seems to lead to Scrapdragon just eating Max. Which given the others track record is probably appropriate.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
The problem is, each spirit seems like, while not trying to mend the rifts between them an spectral, are at the very least not malevolent. This is why if Scrapdragon eats Max, it's just because eating things is his way of soliloquizing on the nature of man and beast or some other bullshit.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Scrapdragon is a hosed up psychogrudge and must be put down immediately.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Matlock Birthmark posted:

You might have a point ya. He doesn't seem to really care what Ed feels or even what he does. That said, when Ed asks him for advice, the information he provides isn't maliciously bad or anything.

Again, I don't know about that. Muse definitely seemed concerned, or at least surprised, when Ed ran off to stupidly try and play hero. It was probably wrong to say he doesn't care about Ed's feelings, rather that he doesn't care if he hurts Ed's feelings when trying to help him. He doesn't sugar-coat it when he tells Ed that he dun goofed or by pointing out his flaws and failings. But sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Muse tells him exactly what his problem is as Muse sees it (that he is a weakling burger-child) and how to fix it (get confident and hella swole). Problem is is that that's not what Ed needs right now. This isn't a problem that can be solved with force or by just brushing it off.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

This comic needs more catharsis.

:agreed:

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

Who What Now posted:

Again, I don't know about that. Muse definitely seemed concerned, or at least surprised, when Ed ran off to stupidly try and play hero.

Hey, not sure if this is just me, but your link didn't work. That said, I see which page you were referring too, and it seems that panel slipped my mind. I guess you might have the correct read on it after all.

Edit: Odd, why when I click the link does it try to take me to the page as https, that's not in the url at all?

Matlock Birthmark fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 28, 2016

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

Countblanc posted:

Scrapdragon is a hosed up psychogrudge and must be put down immediately.

i'm putting scrapdragon down all right. putting it down on my list of baller spirits

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Muse is pretty much stuck watching Ed's life until he gets enough power to leave. It'd be weird if he didn't form some opinion on the kid. He might just be looking to make Ed's life interesting to watch.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i wonder how muse wound up in a tool? he doesn't seem actively malevolent (and honestly if he were idk if his tool would be given to a kid like ed), he's not particularly weak and doesn't seem like the type to go for a symbiotic relationship like eightfold

what is his deal?

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

Matlock Birthmark posted:

Hey, not sure if this is just me, but your link didn't work. That said, I see which page you were referring too, and it seems that panel slipped my mind. I guess you might have the correct read on it after all.

Edit: Odd, why when I click the link does it try to take me to the page as https, that's not in the url at all?

Since he didn't add http: to the url the browser autofills it with the http(s) from the current page, and SA is in https.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Tollymain posted:

i wonder how muse wound up in a tool? he doesn't seem actively malevolent (and honestly if he were idk if his tool would be given to a kid like ed), he's not particularly weak and doesn't seem like the type to go for a symbiotic relationship like eightfold

what is his deal?

ghost world is kinda a brutal Darwinian hell

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Tollymain posted:

i wonder how muse wound up in a tool? he doesn't seem actively malevolent (and honestly if he were idk if his tool would be given to a kid like ed), he's not particularly weak and doesn't seem like the type to go for a symbiotic relationship like eightfold

what is his deal?

Could be a Sun Wukong deal where he was a dick and is now serving time as Ed's babysitter/mentor.

Kabanaw
Jan 27, 2012

The real Pokemon begins here

Countblanc posted:

Scrapdragon is a hosed up psychogrudge and must be put down immediately.

Scrapdragon did nothing wrong

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Kabanaw posted:

Scrapdragon did nothing wrong

....yet.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Scrap dragon may or may not have done several things incorrectly.

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

Who What Now posted:

Scrap dragon may or may not have done several things incorrectly.

In its defense... SKREEE!!

Though yes, attacking boss leader probably wasn't a wise move. Lady is weird.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

Yvonmukluk posted:

I thought Hitball was a sports anime arc?

Exactly, he was watching sports anime four or so months back. And now we're going to get Johnny in the role of Zac Bagans, hopefully.

VerdantSquire
Jul 1, 2014

Yeah let's be fair; Scrap Dragon looks way more like an animal than any kind of coherent being right now.

Actually, since it's a grudge, I guess that would make it an animal with rabbies? Which doesn't exactly make him much better.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





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Countblanc posted:

Scrapdragon is a hosed up psychogrudge and must be put down immediately.

Scrapdragon? More like Junkworm, owned by that wicked putdown. :cool:

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I dunno, Junkworm sounds like a :krad: garage band.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Did somebody say junk? :dong:

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Renaissance Robot posted:

Did somebody say junk? :dong:
Oh my god I can't believe I missed a double dick pun. :cripes:

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Junkworm more like garbage dick amirite

(I really wish we'd kept that newbie avatar, it was so much better than this weird purple monkey)

Unhappy Meal
Jul 27, 2010

Some smiles show mirth
Others merely show teeth

Renaissance Robot posted:

Junkworm more like garbage dick amirite

(I really wish we'd kept that newbie avatar, it was so much better than this weird purple monkey)

Bonzai Buddy is great. They make it utterly impossible to take the posts of anyone with it seriously.

It also just occurred to me that if Spender does resolve to get Zarei's help he'll lose control moments later and become the primary antagonist as the most anime outcome.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice
For a few weeks there I was all, "Wow, this bonzai buddy goon sure posts in all the threads I read. Are they new? They seem cool." I had to have it explained to me.

VerdantSquire
Jul 1, 2014

Also a bit late to the conversation where this was discussed, but this scene is evidence against the idea of Zarei being Spender's SO, since someone else who is clearly not Lucifer is in Spender's home while Zarei is busy leaving Day at a motel.

Edit: In case anyone has trouble seeing it:

VerdantSquire fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jan 28, 2016

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
I remember us discussing that at the time and deciding it was probably something completely innocuous like an anthropomorphic fridge or an iron maiden or what have you. Never could we have suspected that Richard Darkstorme Spender could actually have a real human companion.

I'll be a bit put out if this person turns out to be just some random person who isn't even slightly plot relevant, but only because Age of Ultron already pulled that twist.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Hmm you're right, the book on his desk does imply Spender isn't in a relationship with Zarei

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
When I say this comics need more catharsis, I really mean it, every character is motivated by some kind of frustration.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jan 28, 2016

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

When I say this comics need more catharsis, I really mean, every character is motivated by some kind of frustration.

I can agree with that. I think it shows in the story, too. Whole lot of tension is getting built up with absolutely no meaningful payoffs. No one seems to be getting ahead or making progress. Which is also frustrating for us, the readers.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Who What Now posted:

I can agree with that. I think it shows in the story, too. Whole lot of tension is getting built up with absolutely no meaningful payoffs. No one seems to be getting ahead or making progress. Which is also frustrating for us, the readers.

Well, it's the classic problem of 'serial updates in a long form story'.

In comic, we're still pretty much in the introduction. Characters have been introduced and we've covered most of their issues, the starting point for whatever arc they'll have. A few of the antagonists have been briefly introduced, but we don't really know anything about them or their motives. It's also been like, 4 days. Like, think of it as a book. We're in chapter 4. Harry Potter hadn't even been to Diagon Alley yet. In narrative terms, we're just barely out of the intro and are moving into rising action.

Out of comic, it's been a couple hundred pages and almost 5 years. So, yeah.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Mazerunner posted:

almost 5 years

holy poo poo

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PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off
and I've been enjoying every minute of it.

can't wait for hitball pt. 2: return of hitball

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