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Yooper posted:Correct. These are not the same corporations. Keiretsu and zaibatsu are the relevant terms depending on what you're shooting for. For Korea it'd be Chaebol.
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Yooper, this question may be too influential for votes, but compared to the Dictator, how much more High Value Assets do Mitsuhashi and Iceberg have combined?
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May 26, 2017 02:46
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Going to point out that "everyone off our land" is almost inevitably going to lead to a civilian massacre at some point.
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May 26, 2017 02:46
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Which is why we need to offer a consultant, free of charge, to help direct those impulses to other targets.
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May 26, 2017 02:48
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Added Space posted:Going to point out that "everyone off our land" is almost inevitably going to lead to a civilian massacre at some point. Well, they already committed one massacre, whats a few more. 
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May 26, 2017 02:49
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Yay! we get to steal both russian, jap and Yankee botes!
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May 26, 2017 02:51
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Added Space posted:Going to point out that "everyone off our land" is almost inevitably going to lead to a civilian massacre at some point. This needs to be emphasised. We're probably going to be partially responsible for wiping out Anchorage.
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May 26, 2017 02:51
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May 26, 2017 02:53
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Quinntan posted:This needs to be emphasised. We're probably going to be partially responsible for wiping out Anchorage. And nothing of value was lost
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May 26, 2017 02:54
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Okay, so the thing to expect with Mitsuhashi: they will gently caress us if we deviate from their orders, and those orders are not being made by people who know anything about warfare. Gonna recommend against that one. Added Space posted:Going to point out that "everyone off our land" is almost inevitably going to lead to a civilian massacre at some point.
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May 26, 2017 02:55
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Dreamsicle posted:Yooper, this question may be too influential for votes, but compared to the Dictator, how much more High Value Assets do Mitsuhashi and Iceberg have combined? Both are industrial concerns with appropriate levels of industrial assets. Canning facilities. Tank farms. Generators. Storage Facilities. Worker Housing. Piers. Docks. Automated Canning Vessels.
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May 26, 2017 03:05
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Im voting preferentially and you cant stop me 1. Mitsuhashi 2. Nativecorp 3. Go rogue 4. Iceberg
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May 26, 2017 03:05
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gently caress it, voting Natives because while I hate Alaska I hate naval vessels more.
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May 26, 2017 03:07
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The Sandman posted:Okay, so the thing to expect with Mitsuhashi: they will gently caress us if we deviate from their orders, and those orders are not being made by people who know anything about warfare. Like any of the others really know what they're doing either.
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May 26, 2017 03:07
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Probably Ethnic Cleansing Idiot Corporate Masters or Ted Nugent These are the futures you chose, Goons.  Can we just hook up with whatever the Russians are plotting? (I can't believe I'm saying this)
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May 26, 2017 03:07
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MNAGA!
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May 26, 2017 03:08
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Quinntan posted:Remember folks, a vote for Mitsuhashi is a vote for more bote. We were already getting the poo poo pay in Angola and it worked out fine, this should be more of the same. Natives.
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May 26, 2017 03:12
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Mitsuhashi, because then at least we can keep *some* friends. edit: also, because war crimes are one thing, but crimes against humanity are another entirely - ethnic cleansing isn't one of those things that's OK so long as it's the "right people" doing it David Corbett fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 03:17
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power crystals posted:We were already getting the poo poo pay in Angola and it worked out fine, this should be more of the same. We took the least paying option (it still paid a lot more than the BNSC would) but got full destructobux, which historically was the largest source of our income. Natives are only paying half that.
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May 26, 2017 03:19
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Mitsuhashi I think I'm turning Japanese I really think so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0X3CLJVMJU
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May 26, 2017 03:21
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Mitsuhashi, because if Japanese Businessman/Fishermen can't drink as hard as Jack can and I have it on good authority that Japanese Businessmen are very good drinkers, he can find some native Russians who can. Also I like money. And some other reasons, like Japan generally having a decent Navy. Better than Russian poo poo, anyways.
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May 26, 2017 03:22
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Native Corp. Mostly because gently caress Japanese corp ethics, and nobody's given a poo poo about the other guys since Deadliest Catch.
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May 26, 2017 03:31
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I really hope we're allowed to coordinate ground strategy in a way that redirects the more hot-blooded folk to more appropriate targets. Or at least share the potential cost/benefits. "Those assholes stole the land, we're taking hits to help you get what's yours back. But part of that means letting us handle the total war part while you win the PR war."
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May 26, 2017 03:36
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Natives I have a soft spot for little regionalist groups like this.
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May 26, 2017 03:38
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Using the example of our operations in Angola, let's try to figure out the impact halving our destructobux will have. During the Angolan campaign, we flew six missions for which we have detailed expenditure and income reports (First Impressions, Black Diamond, Grognard, Golgotha, Gatecrasher and Finest Hour). These profit and loss reports don't account for airframe losses, however. In Angola, we had an income of $619,400,000, of which mission payouts consisted of $95,000,000 and destructobux consisted of $524,000,000. We had expenditures of $289,281,000 on ammunition and fuel, and we also lost aircraft worth a total of $119,600,000, for a total net gain of $210,519,000. However, if we account for halving the destructobux, we come out with a net loss of $51,681,000. We'll never be able to buy a bote if we make losses
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May 26, 2017 03:45
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Mitsuhashi - money now will let us do good later.
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May 26, 2017 03:49
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Mitsu Mercenaries follow the money
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May 26, 2017 03:53
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Natives They're the side with the worst naval assets. If we're going to steal a bote from someone, we have the best outcomes if we're working for the side that doesn't have anything worth stealing. We'll do fine financially, even if we might have to bomb dozens of small fishing boats/
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May 26, 2017 03:53
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Mitsuhashi because I like having money
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May 26, 2017 03:54
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Oh, one more thing to bear in mind. If we start posting losses, we have to sell off assets to provide for the 10% dividend. The most expensive asset we'll likely have is... the bote. If you want a bote and actually keep it, vote Matsushita
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May 26, 2017 03:55
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David Corbett posted:Mitsuhashi, because then at least we can keep *some* friends. Better to make friends who owe us things. Things like independence. Besides, any big corporations will have enemies. We can make new friends or at least acquaintances that way too. As for the people going "ethnic cleansing"... you do realize how big Alaska is and how far away we are from the parts with pretty much all the people, right?
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I want to point out that if we want to go full pirate, Natives are our best bet. Fly over unprotected fishing vessels, broadcast to surrender and sail to our port or be blasted out of the sea. Then, blackmail. Alternative methods of income guys. This theater allows it.
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May 26, 2017 04:04
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Quinntan posted:Using the example of our operations in Angola, let's try to figure out the impact halving our destructobux will have. Does this include payments from the mines?
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May 26, 2017 04:04
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Native They have the political cover for us to do Fun Things.
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May 26, 2017 04:08
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Does this AO have mines? Oil rigs, or something?
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power crystals posted:Does this include payments from the mines? No, because in this theatre we are not getting mine payments. We'll solely be getting income from the missions.
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Quinntan posted:No, because in this theatre we are not getting mine payments. We'll solely be getting income from the missions. And the piracy 
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May 26, 2017 04:15
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MItsuhashi. They can pay us the most and we're likely to get Magical Girls on our side. Also possibly Godzilla.
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May 26, 2017 04:16
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The Sandman posted:Better to make friends who owe us things. Things like independence. Only 8,000 people live on the Aleutian islands, and they're spread over a land area half of the size of Belgium. I'm not sure exactly what we hope to gain by their support. Even if we somehow assumed that every Native American in Alaska was cool with secession, that leaves us with, uh, 110,000 people. Don't ask me where they'd live. That's hardly enough for a functioning country. We can safely assume that the rest of Alaska is not on board, given that they currently make up one of the three factions in theatre. I'm just saying that armed minority ethnic separatist movements have a terrible track record with respect to such things as human rights" or "success". As, for that matter, do armed American secessionist movements. Especially, one presumes, would be armed American secessionist movements operating in direct contravention to United Nations mandates. One presumes that we could have enjoyed tacit Chinese support (provided that they were willing to start the third world war, which in India they weren't), except that they hate our guts and want to see us dead. The other two options are much safer, and Mitsuhashi has the most votes. David Corbett fucked around with this message at 04:24 on May 26, 2017 |
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David Corbett posted:Only 8,000 people live on the Aleutian islands. I'm not sure exactly what we hope to gain by their support. As opposed to corporate whores? Native and burn the corporations to the grouuuuuund!
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