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CatchrNdRy posted:here is the cinco story dying over this. "raise up foo." oh my god.
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Hormones posted:dying over this. "raise up foo." oh my god. Budweisers, the 22 ounce because like the 40 would get my dome too crazy and I couldn't go to works or nothing.
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CatchrNdRy posted:Budweisers, the 22 ounce because like the 40 would get my dome too crazy and I couldn't go to works or nothing. I love Mike, straight up. On another note, I listened to two randomly chosen episodes today and they were laugh out loud hilarious. For anyone who wants to check them out: 3/30/2004 with Greg Proops, and 5/27/2004 Adam's 40th Birthday
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Another former cast member of Celebrity Rehab, Jeff Conaway, passed away. Drew had been talking about him over the past few nights on Loveline and said he could pull through, sad to see him go.
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May 28, 2011 03:46
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Instrumedley posted:Another former cast member of Celebrity Rehab, Jeff Conaway, passed away. Drew had been talking about him over the past few nights on Loveline and said he could pull through, sad to see him go. I'm getting a bit annoyed at the flak Drew is receiving over this. Hate to talk negative about the dead or whatever but that dude was a train wreck.
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visuvius posted:I'm getting a bit annoyed at the flak Drew is receiving over this. Hate to talk negative about the dead or whatever but that dude was a train wreck. Oh man, on the first season of celebrity rehab he couldn't speak coherently until about the 3rd episode. Had seizures, hallucinations, etc. His addiction destroyed him.
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Hormones posted:On another note, I listened to two randomly chosen episodes today and they were laugh out loud hilarious. For anyone who wants to check them out: Thanks, I'm glad to find out Proops had been on LL. I'm hoping, since he has his own podcast now (which I looove) that he'll show up on Carolla's soon.
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visuvius posted:I'm getting a bit annoyed at the flak Drew is receiving over this. Hate to talk negative about the dead or whatever but that dude was a train wreck. It frustrates me too. I think people have this idea that if you go to rehab you are cured! Everything is okay! You're all better! And because Dr Drew was his doctor during his time on Celeb Rehab it's suddenly his fault and he's a horrible doctor. Like what?! The medical aspect of rehab is pretty much the smallest part when it comes to recovery. I went into Addictions Therapy in university because of Dr Drew (lol inspirational speech time!) and the work after rehab is the hardest, most important part. Relapses and deaths have nothing to do with Dr Drew and he isn't and shouldn't be held responsible, nor should he be judged for it. Ugh. I have way too much anger about this topic.
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Hormones posted:It frustrates me too. I think people have this idea that if you go to rehab you are cured! Everything is okay! You're all better! And because Dr Drew was his doctor during his time on Celeb Rehab it's suddenly his fault and he's a horrible doctor. Like what?! The medical aspect of rehab is pretty much the smallest part when it comes to recovery. I went into Addictions Therapy in university because of Dr Drew (lol inspirational speech time!) and the work after rehab is the hardest, most important part. From listening to Dr. Drew on Loveline I got the impression that addiction is more or less incurable, which makes his profession somewhat Sisyphean in nature. The fact that some people, if only a tiny minority, can gather their lives back together for long periods of time is a miracle. You can also see the tremendous amount of effort it takes to treat addiction, and I think people don't understand it because, if they lack the addictive tendencies themselves, they have nothing to compare it to.
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Bolkovr posted:
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Vertigus posted:From listening to Dr. Drew on Loveline I got the impression that addiction is more or less incurable, which makes his profession somewhat Sisyphean in nature. The fact that some people, if only a tiny minority, can gather their lives back together for long periods of time is a miracle. You can also see the tremendous amount of effort it takes to treat addiction, and I think people don't understand it because, if they lack the addictive tendencies themselves, they have nothing to compare it to. With that knowledge, can you really make any other face?
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Vertigus posted:From listening to Dr. Drew on Loveline I got the impression that addiction is more or less incurable, which makes his profession somewhat Sisyphean in nature. The fact that some people, if only a tiny minority, can gather their lives back together for long periods of time is a miracle. You can also see the tremendous amount of effort it takes to treat addiction, and I think people don't understand it because, if they lack the addictive tendencies themselves, they have nothing to compare it to. It's absolutely not curable. Once an addict, always an addict - just either using or clean/sober. But it's always there, as Dr Drew says, 'doing push ups in the corner, ready to attack any time'. It's so true and so many people just say 'just stop' or 'you have to choose' or 'you're hurting your family' or 'these are the consequences' but it doesn't matter when all your mind, body and brain want is the substance. Not food, not water, not a home, not love, not family, not friends, not a job, not money, JUST DRUGS. I mean, people can be sober for 20 years and relapse. It never goes away. It's a lot of hard work forever, forever, to stay healthy, sober, and in a clear state of mind to battle one's addiction. That is, of course, not to say that addicts can't get sober and stay sober forever because they absolutely can, but only when they are deeply committed to the hard work and putting the management of their disease ahead of everything.
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Why is it that the "just stop" people refuse to believe that addiction isn't a choice. Is it just a single mindedness where they can't comprehend any other reality than their own. I mean I've never been depressed, for example, but I would never suggest that the cure for depression is just to "cheer up".
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Vertigus posted:From listening to Dr. Drew on Loveline I got the impression that addiction is more or less incurable, which makes his profession somewhat Sisyphean in nature. The fact that some people, if only a tiny minority, can gather their lives back together for long periods of time is a miracle. You can also see the tremendous amount of effort it takes to treat addiction, and I think people don't understand it because, if they lack the addictive tendencies themselves, they have nothing to compare it to. It's "incurable" because total sobriety is a fantasy. A harm reduction strategy would have worked better in Conaway's case for instance.
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Human Tornada posted:Why is it that the "just stop" people refuse to believe that addiction isn't a choice. Is it just a single mindedness where they can't comprehend any other reality than their own. Because they don't understand brain chemistry, trauma and mental illness, I suppose. Or they're one of those lucky people who don't have the gene for addiction and they can 'just stop'. I wish I knew the whole answer because it's incredibly frustrating for me to deal with family/friends of clients but all we can do is education and encourage their support (for those addicts willing to do the work of recovery). Kim Jong Il posted:It's "incurable" because total sobriety is a fantasy. A harm reduction strategy would have worked better in Conaway's case for instance.
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Human Tornada posted:Why is it that the "just stop" people refuse to believe that addiction isn't a choice. Is it just a single mindedness where they can't comprehend any other reality than their own. The "just stop" people I've met tend not to realize/accept that it's a disease, so they can't comprehend the drive for substances that it causes. Telling an addict to "just stop" is like telling someone with diabetes to just stop needing insulin.
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Hormones posted:I am praying to do my senior internship at Insight, the only safe-injection facility in North America. Harms Reduction is a great thing! Work in the DTES for any length of time and you will want to a bullet in your mouth fyi.
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Maybe I'm just in love with Ken Marino, but this is a fantastic show: http://www.lovelinetapes.com/shows/?id=728&h=ZTkyZmM5ODF Whenever Adam comes in drunk (he had just done that old man show bit where they went to LAX and played drunken pilots), he's just fantastic. Also, remember a world when two guys could go to an airport drunk and dressed as pilots and roll around on the baggage carousel?
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Sir Liquid Jerk posted:Work in the DTES for any length of time and you will want to a bullet in your mouth fyi. I've done a lot of volunteer work down there. I know what I'm in for and I can take it :]
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Anyone listening tonight? They were talking about Charm School and it was mentioned that Stryker was on that show and Anderson piped in with "Who's Stryker?" Snap.
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Hormones posted:Anyone listening tonight? Just heard that! Sounded like Steve-O (tonight's guest) said that Stryker wasn't very good on Charm School as well.
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Instrumedley posted:Just heard that! Sounded like Steve-O (tonight's guest) said that Stryker wasn't very good on Charm School as well. I never saw the show but I can't imagine Stryker being good at much of anything. Steve-O is a great Loveline guest though. I'm so glad he came back last night!
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Stream may be down for a bit, I had to cancel my hosting because it was too expensive. Shopping for some new hosting but I don't think it'll be too long. Anyone know a cheap shoutcast host that can handle 2TB/mo transfer? 
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On the topic of addiction, you are going to have a really hard time navigating a rational conversation about the situation based purely on just how loaded and diverse the terminology is involving the subject. For fairness' sake, it's always safer to assume the other person is reading the same word and thinking a different meaning when talking about addiction. Drew operates from a materialist base that asserts a genetic foundation is the deciding factor on whether you are an addict or not, and environmentals can only really add or detract sway on your final decision making process. He's mentioned several times that the ADHD gene and alcoholic gene are either the same or directly connected on the show and the more you look at it, the more it makes perfect sense. For clarity's sake, I don't believe in choice or free will, so my opinion on arguing nature/nurture is essentially predetermined- I don't exactly have a whole lot invested in proving addicts are carefully weighing the cause and effect relationship of their actions. Just being fair to my bias. However, once you look at addiction as a biological model and remove the concept of free will/choice, it really becomes startlingly clear that there are biological processes culminating into behavioural patterns that rival Pavlov's dog. It's only our own egos, conceit and insistence that marketing affects everyone else but me that refuses the mind-blowingly simple solution that addiction by it's very nature destroys the concept of individual choice. Because, I'm not like those weak degenerates. I have strength, self control. Or whatever other lies we tell ourselves. If you look at addiction as an impulse-control disorder, rather than a hedonistic drive, an entire world of options for treating the disease/disorder open up and provide hope. Physical dependance and Addiction are two very separate things. Diabetes is a great example, because diabetics are physically dependent upon their medications- they are not, however, addicted to them. Once you can recognize that clear divide between addiction and dependence, everything you think on the subject changes and becomes more accurate. Addicts suffer from a biological disease/disorder that manifests in psychological behaviour patterns- there really aren't very many well-educated or intelligent people who still believe that the root of addiction is based in choices anymore, and this is a good thing. LL is funny but Adam is only comical because of how completely wrong he is on any issue involving actual facts- it's like listening to your racist grandfather tell everyone how America saved the world in WW2 at Christmas while pausing every few sentences to glare at his Filipino nurse's rear end and accuse her of stealing when she leaves the room. Because 'her people' are like that. Drew, however, is loving awesome.
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Adam's great at character assessments as well. Whenever he tries to describe motivations for people he's usually dead on.
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Mr.Graves posted:Hear, hear, good sir!
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Just came to this thread to say that I'm on hold with AAA and I heard Dawson from the ACS doing voiceovers for their commercials. Had to smile even though the call itself was a pain in the neck.
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Mr.Graves posted:Physical dependance and Addiction are two very separate things. Diabetes is a great example, because diabetics are physically dependent upon their medications- they are not, however, addicted to them. Once you can recognize that clear divide between addiction and dependence, everything you think on the subject changes and becomes more accurate. Addicts suffer from a biological disease/disorder that manifests in psychological behaviour patterns- there really aren't very many well-educated or intelligent people who still believe that the root of addiction is based in choices anymore, and this is a good thing. I agree with pretty much everything you said, especially the part about people reading the same word and getting different meanings. I also just want to clarify that I know my diabetes analogy kinda falls apart when you actually start looking at stuff and get into the difference between addiction and dependence, I just use it because it's the one I've found that seems to help people who don't understand addiction realize that it's not based in choices. It's good you pointed that out, I didn't even think about it this time.
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Has anyone gone to Adam's live shows? I'm waiting to see him in San Francisco right now.
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I am patiently awaiting the return of the Loveline Stream. Please bring it back!
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Chakron posted:I am patiently awaiting the return of the Loveline Stream. Please bring it back! It's been fixed, just waiting on re-uploading the 60gb of shows  Hopefully will be done in about 2 days.
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I was in 9th grade once. When I was 28.
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Has anyone ever been able to track down Adams appearance on Conan when he bombed? I remember searching for it and couldn't find anything.
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Deepak Chopra on tonight? That's pretty incredible. Bound to be an interesting show!
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Hormones posted:Deepak Chopra on tonight? That's pretty incredible. Bound to be an interesting show! First time in Loveline history that two people with a master's degree have called in on the same night?
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I'm sure this has been mentioned, but has anyone else noticed how often Adam says "is is"? Such as "My point is, is..." or "The thing is is...." Cannot unhear!
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Pzykotic posted:I'm sure this has been mentioned, but has anyone else noticed how often Adam says "is is"? Such as "My point is, is..." or "The thing is is...." I just like to remember all the times I've heard or seen this instead.
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