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Waffleman_ posted:Gunfists Livia has those. Red Metal posted:gungun  Bozja did it. Edit: hmm, there's some writing on the revolver barrel. It's not Eorzean. Does Bozja have their own alphabet? Bruceski fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 22, 2021 |
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, we're going there to pull their head out of their asses, not beat them up until they submit. yea there's no way Sharlayan won't wind up pulling an Ishgard where the point is showing a nation of mostly good and willing to help people that their leaders right now suck rear end and it's time to stop being dicks and join the rest of the world. We're literally going in there with the not-president's children and his father's trusted allies, that is not a recipe for violent overthrowing. I do want to punch him just once though, gently caress him for making the twins sad 
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In the same vein as the Fordola story, what if the memories/revelations from the original source reveal that Zenos in days of Amaurot was among Azem's party members? Might as well go hog wild with everyone being connected and entangled in a deeper fashion. It would be great if even in those days Ancient Zenos was a super weirdo who only found joy in combat and then fighting or adventuring with the Shepherd. They should go the best friends forever route I say. On a serious note, I like the idea of a twisted person becoming even more broken post sundering, and maybe something is similar is at work with Fandaniel. Though I also believe the latter has some connection with The Sound whether that be in its creation or just being corrupted by it.
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Tekne posted:In the same vein as the Fordola story, what if the memories/revelations from the original source reveal that Zenos in days of Amaurot was among Azem's party members? Might as well go hog wild with everyone being connected and entangled in a deeper fashion. It would be great if even in those days Ancient Zenos was a super weirdo who only found joy in combat and then fighting or adventuring with the Shepherd. They should go the best friends forever route I say. I think if they do anything with ancient Zenos I think it will be revealing that he is a creation of the sound/Lavos/Sin whatever it ends up being.
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Eimi posted:I think if they do anything with ancient Zenos I think it will be revealing that he is a creation of the sound/Lavos/Sin whatever it ends up being. Resonant vs Echo is a very interesting pair of terms when you get to talking about a sound slowly causing the end of the world
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Regy Rusty posted:E: ^^ WOW Isn't that outright stated post Anamnesis Anyder?
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Tekne posted:On a serious note, I like the idea of a twisted person becoming even more broken post sundering, and maybe something is similar is at work with Fandaniel. Though I also believe the latter has some connection with The Sound whether that be in its creation or just being corrupted by it. I still think a really interesting thing to see explored with Fandaniel, and where I think it's going, is that what's wrong with him actually seems to stem from the Unsundered. His crystal, the one they made and filled with memories, is apparently the part that's broken. Which would explain why he seems to hate them. If some ancient immortal assholes reawoken your ancient soul (probably against your will while claiming it's a blessing or something, given who we're talking about) to fulfill their needs, and then hosed it up? Yeah, you'd probably start breaking their poo poo as petty vengeance, gently caress those guys.
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SirSamVimes posted:Isn't that outright stated post Anamnesis Anyder? Yeah looks like it was. I guess I forgot
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Sep 22, 2021 11:33
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Two other things to speculate about: Who do you think the Dreamer in the Garlemald Tower that Zenos mentions at the end of 5.55 is, and will the devs give Zenos a Reaper familiar or will he be too cool for that
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my hail mary is that the dreamer is Anima, or someone who will conjure Anima all we really know about them is that they can apparently generate more aether from their dreams, which you could draw lines to the fayth in FFX. I'm not 100% committed to the idea, since just because Anima was in X doesn't mean their circumstances will mirror how they were summoned in X, but it's something to think about. I am 100% confident that it's not Zodiark, though, since Zenos' seemingly ultimate goal is to pilot/eat/shake hands with Zodiark.
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Sep 22, 2021 16:32
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Sorry... the dreamer?
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Sep 22, 2021 17:01
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Macaluso posted:Sorry... the dreamer?     
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Bruceski posted:, and gunbook. The term is "magazine"
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Macaluso posted:Sorry... the dreamer? Zenos and Danny boy reference it in 5.55
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Chillgamesh posted:Two other things to speculate about : Who do you think the Dreamer in the Garlemald Tower that Zenos mentions at the end of 5.55 is, and will the devs give Zenos a Reaper familiar or will he be too cool for that Pretty sure the 'Dreamer' doesn't refer to that and they're calling Zodiark that, but I've had a solid theory for who's in the Garlemald Tower ever since it came up. Because reasonably, whoever's in there has to be a true believer in Garlemald. The captured people powering the Garlemald Tower are the 1st Legion, led by Nerva. Ever notice how they quietly disappear from the story with no mention right as Fandaniel starts to put the Telophoroi and tower plans into motion? Vitamean posted:my hail mary is that the dreamer is Anima, or someone who will conjure Anima But something that struck me today in the shower about FFXIV's Anima. Remember that in FFX, Anima is Seymour's mother, in constant pain and torment because of the experience of becoming an aeon for her son, and also how phenomenally goddamn lovely her son is and how she cam do nothing but watch him burn down the things she believed him to be capable of. If that direct origin is something to pull from, I can think of a perfect candidate. A woman who by all evidence has been brought back from the dead, after having died in great pain, and is now probably going to be subject to both the nation her killers call home and the last guy doing anything with the legacy she fought for both just being tremendous fuckheads. By their own writing, the Students of Baldesion killed Emmerololth extremely painfully to prevent her getting at Eureka. And yet she was apparently still around afterwards, for at least one scene. If she really is still around, I can't imagine she's holding together tremendously well psychologically. Especially if Fandaniel did something to ensure she wouldn't stop his plans.
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multijoe posted:... has Zenos' mother ever been accounted for? It was mentioned in a short story that she died relatively early in Zenos' life.
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I think the playerbase would riot if Eureka became MSQ required, lol.
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My bet is if we're gonna get any hint on who the dreamer is before Endwalker proper, they'll feature into the final short story this Friday.Waffleman_ posted:I think the playerbase would riot if Eureka became MSQ required, lol. Emmeroloth's death would've happened in whenever the Isle of Val disappeared, in 2.1 or 2.2? Doing Eureka after would spell out that they got owned, but it's not something that you'd absolutely need to do. Although I think the running theory with the 2nd Emmeroloth was that they were another shard awakened as an Ascian after the previous one died.
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Only the three we know of remained unsundered, right? Any Emmerololth would be reawakened, though there's nothing stopping them having elevated another shard between then and 5.0
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I'll say it's not for no reason they explicitly brought back Emmeroloth for Eureka only to tell you Galuf & co. eliminated them two expansions ago, so having that followed up somehow in Endwalker or later would be nice. I'm more curious what the remaining sundered Ascians (including Emmy 2) have been up to since the Crystal Tower made Elidibus it's +1.
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I'd like to think that at least some of the remaining Ascian shards will take the same gift of freedom that Fandaniel got and do something good with it instead
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I suspect "the dreamer" is gonna be Jenova/Lavos/whatever and they're squeezing it for juice. Everything's made of aether, after all.
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Macaluso posted:Sorry... the dreamer? https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Dreamer
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Macaluso posted:Sorry... the dreamer? Beauty's Wicked Wiles posted:Night.
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You get put to sleep by a tempered Thaumaturge right before you're brought to Ifrit. The entire rest of the game is the dream you're experiencing while tempered by Ifrit. The Scions are actually just Ifrit's other servants, but given a familiar face. The enemies you fight are Brass Blades and other such people trying to stop primals.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:You get put to sleep by a tempered Thaumaturge right before you're brought to Ifrit. The entire rest of the game is the dream you're experiencing while tempered by Ifrit. The Scions are actually just Ifrit's other servants, but given a familiar face. The enemies you fight are Brass Blades and other such people trying to stop primals. Hydaelyn is actually the immortal sorceress Tataru from the future who was so obsessed with being reunited with her beloved money that she sought to compress time itself to be reunited with it
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Final Fantasy XIV is only you coming to reconcile the harsh reality of how you murder-suicided your entire family while you're dying of your shrapnel injuries during the Vietnam War, and Zenos is actually the doctor who's trying to bring you out of your semi-fugue state before you kill again. Nidhogg was actually your sister... Laurie Myers
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Sep 22, 2021 18:50
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You take a ride in a space whale in order to convince your best friend to stop hitting on your girl. On the moon.
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Nessus posted:Final Fantasy XIV is only you coming to reconcile the harsh reality of how you murder-suicided your entire family while you're dying of your shrapnel injuries during the Vietnam War, and Zenos is actually the doctor who's trying to bring you out of your semi-fugue state before you kill again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiP3ZDApOsA
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I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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Those pictures remind me that I really miss when Zenos was just wearing a long white jacket over his shoulders. It looked cooler than the evil robe he's got on now.
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Ferrinus posted:Those pictures remind me that I really miss when Zenos was just wearing a long white jacket over his shoulders. It looked cooler than the evil robe he's got on now. 100% agree there, that stupid 'jacket just hanging on the shoulders' look is so good for a cocky and smug baddie, especially with Zenos' general style.
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funny to me that they invented a costume for zenos to use in five cutscenes and Dissidia Final Fantasy NT
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Actually that gives me an idea: It should be a feature of NG+ that you get to glam all the major NPCs in the story
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Chillgamesh posted:Actually that gives me an idea: It should be a feature of NG+ that you get to glam all the major NPCs in the story Everyone as a stripper cowboy? Ok, I'm down.
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Everyone Is 2B
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Waffleman_ posted:Everyone Is 2B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V11lKAkBcY
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in this moment I've changed my mind if they're bringing back lahabrea for pandaemonium then the dreamer is lahabrea. lock it in louie
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Chillgamesh posted:Two other things to speculate about : Who do you think the Dreamer in the Garlemald Tower that Zenos mentions at the end of 5.55 is, and will the devs give Zenos a Reaper familiar or will he be too cool for that Anima will be his familiar.
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