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Jack2142 posted:Didn't selling out the Moroccans for the Celts start this whole stupid rivalry... then the Celts went on to suck poo poo pretty much from the moment we teamed up? I seem to remember the Almoravids teaming up with the French against us sometime in CK2, is what started the gently caress Morroco Movement.
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New England palling up to the Dual Monarchy is no worse than IRL america traitoring it up with the French.
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Captain Mediocre posted:New England palling up to the Dual Monarchy is no worse than IRL america traitoring it up with the French. Worse for us strategically? Agreed. Worse in a "wtf how does this make sense" way? Eh, America and France OTL didn't have competing claims over the UK
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Worse for us strategically? Agreed. The French, for decades, supported the Stuart pretenders to the English throne. They literally paid for coronation ceremonies where the Stuarts were crowned "By the Grace of God, King of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, etc."
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the ibriz-new england alliance was much more egregious, imho, because the butler queen declared herself "Defender of Christendom in Gharbia" against the "revolutionary infidels" while ibriz declared itself to be the eternal enemy of monarchy
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QuoProQuid posted:the ibriz-new england alliance was much more egregious, imho, because the butler queen declared herself "Defender of Christendom in Gharbia" against the "revolutionary infidels" while ibriz declared itself to be the eternal enemy of monarchy If the US and Great Britain can become allies in the real world, why not this game? 
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Mr_Autoshades posted:I seem to remember the Almoravids teaming up with the French against us sometime in CK2, is what started the gently caress Morroco Movement. Nope. We had already begun antagonizing Morocco before they made an alliance with France. We'd already passed a motion to prep for war with them over the straits. They just beat us to the punch. It was a deliberate decision of greedy merchants and delusional nobles to turn our steadfast CK2 ally into an eternal EUIV hell enemy. Then we got ourselves into a colonial spat with the Celts, who had the biggest navy in the world at the time and destroyed our proud fleet. Because lol why not
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Really the key failure of the EU4 seemed to be to not commit to any one approach: we did a little colonizing, enough to build a money-sink in the new world without the infrastructure to really profit. We did a little converting, enough that thematically we couldn't emulate Azeri Tolerance(tm) without ever quite establishing homogeneity in Iberia. We did a little conquest, but never quite reached the point where we could maintain it against a strong opposition. And then we lost all three, as our colonies revolted, our armies were beaten, and all those oppressed minorities rose up. Andalus's key failure in Victoria 2 seems to have been diplomatic: we've made bad choices strategically at the Congress of Cadiz, both in terms of our demands and in terms of who we supported, that gave us the worst possible outcome. And then our alliances with France and the Bavarians seem to have gotten us little benefit, though we have yet to see how the war works. We kind of do need to rotate between the different parties just because of how Hashim is handling techs, and we seem to have done it in an okay order.
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I’m oftentimes not sure if content on the internet is sarcastic, but... Hitlers Gay Secret posted:If the US and Great Britain can become allies in the real world, why not this game? Given their mutual claims to England, New England’s relationship with the DM (and the Celtic Union) is more like Taiwan’s relationship to the People’s Republic of China.
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Honestly our diplo game has been fine, it was literally just the one random event that broke our alliance that screwed everything up. Not getting more land in the first war was unfortunate, but such is life.
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We need to go all in on helping Egypt and Benin become powers. If the Great Powers don't want to be our friends, we can make our own
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Crowsbeak posted:Hey @hashim can you rename brigades? I could, but they would almost never show up in the lp.
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So long as I'm complaining about AI countries not thinking like me, Provence probably would stand to gain more on the Andalusian side of the war, especially seeing as how Occitanian France was rebelling. I guess it makes sense for Provence to decide to cozy up to their French border to not anger the most powerful power around though. Maybe Northern Italy can be freed and do its own little risorgimento out of the deal. Would also like Benin to take this opportunity to crush Morocco. No idea who else would like to weigh in on this war, although France may be allied with half the known world at this point. Morrow posted:Andalus's key failure in Victoria 2 seems to have been diplomatic: we've made bad choices strategically at the Congress of Cadiz, both in terms of our demands and in terms of who we supported, that gave us the worst possible outcome. And then our alliances with France and the Bavarians seem to have gotten us little benefit, though we have yet to see how the war works. We kind of do need to rotate between the different parties just because of how Hashim is handling techs, and we seem to have done it in an okay order. I don't think there have been real big failures in V2 yet, aside from the random event that tanked the dream alliance. The SGU might've been pretty doomed if that didn't happen though, since they'd have to contend with Brunswick and France on its own. Maybe it could've befriended the Celtic Union and Russia? No idea how any of the numbers shake out. I don't really know how the vote numbers for the Congresss of Cadiz work out either, and how much could've been changed. Al Andalus made the one correct decision to get its cores, the other decisions might've screwed around with relations, but the Celtic Union is a chump, Morocco is the eternal enemy, and Brunswick is lame. I have no doubt that everything will fall apart and it will be all the fault of Goons, but everything's fine for now. Hopefully Andalus can handle this war, although I don't have a good feeling in my gut about it. There's nothing that could've been done to prevent this happening though.
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Honestly I think we just need to have realistic expectations and goals is all A pyrrhic victory for Morocco and France could still be a huge success for us if we gently caress up their population and infrastructure bad enough
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What seems weird to me is how Hannover could join the war on France's side without having a massive nationalist uprising. You'd think that Pan-Germanism would still be a thing here.
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Morrow posted:Really the key failure of the EU4 seemed to be to not commit to any one approach: we did a little colonizing, enough to build a money-sink in the new world without the infrastructure to really profit. We did a little converting, enough that thematically we couldn't emulate Azeri Tolerance(tm) without ever quite establishing homogeneity in Iberia. We did a little conquest, but never quite reached the point where we could maintain it against a strong opposition. Fundamentally disagree. Our downfall was caused by getting into blood feuds with three great powers at once. We lost the colonies due to Celtic dominance of the seas. Our armies were ground down trying to fight on two fronts. The minorities rising up in the fitna like they did didn't even make sense in context and was the result of Hashim going (imo) way too hog wild on the event. The colonies brought in a ton of cash that paid for the armies that sacked Paris and Rome multiple times, along with a ton of defensive forts and internal development. Our only mistake was not killing the entire Ulema faction Hail Shaitan.
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The V2 part has been fine so far. The only bad decision we made was not vote moderates every time, bur other than that we have been semi competent. As for EU4, I, like always, regret nothing.
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The Majlis did nothing wrong. Anyone who says otherwise is a traitor to the state.
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Cerebral Bore posted:What seems weird to me is how Hannover could join the war on France's side without having a massive nationalist uprising. You'd think that Pan-Germanism would still be a thing here. I was confused by this as well especially since Hannover historically wanted the Rhineland to stay in German hands as well. Admittedly, both German powers as well as Al Andalus ganging up on the DM would have made this war maybe a little too easy, but the French are so far ahead of the pack that they could afford to lose a major war without any significant threat to their Great Power status.
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paragon1 posted:The minorities rising up in the fitna like they did didn't even make sense in context and was the result of Hashim going (imo) way too hog wild on the event. I mean the whole LP is "Hashim contrives to make it possible to fail at Paradox games", and though I agree that the rebelmageddon was a bit excessive we're still a GP in the early part of Victoria
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At least this time if we manage to do to France what we did back in EU4, it'll seriously gently caress them up. If we manage it. That we couldn't dismantle France back then is one of the bigger disappointments I think. If we win this, I hope the SGU's demands include making the stuff we gave them during the Congress independent. The fuckers.
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Frionnel posted:The V2 part has been fine so far. The only bad decision we made was not vote moderates every time, bur other than that we have been semi competent. I do agree that from a game mechanics standpoint, this might have been the most ideal move. But from a narrative standpoint what we're doing (but mainly Hashim for shaping everything to fit) is much more interesting than just playing optimally.
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Cerebral Bore posted:What seems weird to me is how Hannover could join the war on France's side without having a massive nationalist uprising. You'd think that Pan-Germanism would still be a thing here. The victoria AI doesn't consider things like that  they just saw the SGU facing horrible odds, and decided to make a jump for German domination.
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paragon1 posted:The minorities rising up in the fitna like they did didn't even make sense in context and was the result of Hashim going (imo) way too hog wild on the event. You're deff right, but I have said before that I hadn't intended for it to play out like that. It can be really difficult to plan for things like that before the LP even starts, with the only other alternative being to add them during the LP (in which case it can feel too contrived and convenient), but I definitely should've added a bunch of extra triggers and clauses and stuff. That said, I've tried to avoid anything similar from happening since, testing the vicky scenario a bit more than I did with eu4.
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puppets freak me out posted:I do agree that from a game mechanics standpoint, this might have been the most ideal move. Actually, choosing the moderates every time would not at all be optimal play. I'm just commited to my character. Frionnel fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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Personally I just like trains and having to do as few direct actions as possible.
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Morrow posted:Really the key failure of the EU4 seemed to be to not commit to any one approach: we did a little colonizing, enough to build a money-sink in the new world without the infrastructure to really profit. We did a little converting, enough that thematically we couldn't emulate Azeri Tolerance(tm) without ever quite establishing homogeneity in Iberia. We did a little conquest, but never quite reached the point where we could maintain it against a strong opposition. This was kinda inevitable given the constraints imposed by the faction system, though. If you can only do one thing at a time but you have a lot of things that need doing you will inevitably end up with a lot of half-measures. Hashim posted:The victoria AI doesn't consider things like that I guess you have already played through the war, but maybe there should be an event that gives appropriate POPs in Hannover (or any other German country, as applicable) a lot of militancy or something like that if they betray the Pan-German cause like this?
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Cerebral Bore posted:I guess you have already played through the war, but maybe there should be an event that gives appropriate POPs in Hannover (or any other German country, as applicable) a lot of militancy or something like that if they betray the Pan-German cause like this? I was thinking something like that with the New England alliance with the Dual Monarchy. Even if the state thinks it's pragmatic, I'd imagine it being controversial. Do the Butlers still crown themselves as Kings/Queens of England?
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Chatrapati posted:I was thinking something like that with the New England alliance with the Dual Monarchy. Even if the state thinks it's pragmatic, I'd imagine it being controversial. Do the Butlers still crown themselves as Kings/Queens of England? More importantly does Iceland still crown themselves Kings/Queens of Jerusalem?
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Chapter 10 - The Rhine Crisis - 1870 to 1876 It had been a long time coming, but in the early morning dew of the 1st of January, 1870, the South German Union and Dual Monarchy finally came to blows over the Rhine.  Even before the first bullets were fired, the Dual Monarchy was very confident in their chances - they had fought Europe to a standstill once before, and they could certainly do it again. In fact, the French prime minister immediately stated his intentions to secure the Rhine and dismantle the impressive Palatinate fortresses, along with several other war objectives, including the cessation of Andalusi Granada to the Almoravid Sultanate. And the Berbers were all too eager for war, having spent the past decade earnestly modernising their army and navy, determined to improve on their disastrous performance in the Iberian War. The Almoravid Fleet was dispatched to the Straits of Gibraltar, with the Moroccan leadership determined to secure the vital passageway as quickly as possible.  The Andalusi weren’t capable of challenging the Berbers on the seas, especially as rumours began to spread regarding their revolutionary new flagship, said to be steam-propelled, torpedo-fitted and clad entirely in iron and steel. The Andalusi Navy was still comprised of wooden ships, so the high command immediately abandoned any notions of challenging for the Straits. That question would have to be settled in another war. That didn’t mean they were helpless, this war would be decided in Europe. The Andalusi Army in 1870 numbered almost 90,000 soldiers organised into three smaller forces, with their supreme commander being Astifadat al-Qutili, a veteran general who’d served with distinction in the Iberian War.  With orders quickly relayed from Qadis, Astifadat took two-thirds of the Andalusi Army and marched northwards, proceeding cautiously into Occitania with almost 60,000 well-drilled, highly-experienced soldiers - the very cream of the crop.  The final third would remain in Iberia under the command of Zafir ibn Yusuf, with stern orders to repel the inevitable Moroccan invasions. And like clockwork, the Berbers crossed the straits just a few days into 1870, with over 30,000 soldiers seizing the beachheads of Qadis and Jabal Tariq in bloody assaults.  Zafir immediately pushed southward, clashing with them a few miles east of the capital. Fierce fighting followed, and victory was proclaimed on the 2nd of February, with newspapers in Qadis quickly jumping on the euphoric bandwagon, boldly predicting that Andalusi soldiers would be in Marrakesh before year’s end.  To the east, meanwhile, King Apanoub of Egypt was eager to exploit the outbreak of war in Europe. With the Moroccans distracted by the Andalusi, he finally felt confident enough to declare on Cyrenaica, an emirate firmly within the Moroccan sphere of influence.  And further north, the Russian Empire declared war on Scandinavia-Novgorod, similarly looking to take advantage of the chaos in the west.  In Central Europe, the South German Union found itself fighting two different wars on two different fronts, as the Hanoverians quickly descended on Nuremberg from the north whilst the French clashed with the Bavarians in a string of battles along the western front.  It quickly became evident that the South Germans weren’t prepared for a two-front war, however. So in a calculated move, the Archduke of Bavaria decided to concede defeat to Hannover, ceding Nuremberg in return for peace - a shameful and temporary peace, but one that they desperately needed.  And now that they could channel their full strength to the west, the Dual Monarchy was forced to reply in kind, redeploying tens of thousands of soldiers to the German front. This left Occitania sparsely-defended, allowing Andalusi armies to quickly sweep northwards, meeting little resistance until they reached Cahors.  Just north of the city, a French-English army was waiting to meet them, with their numbers quickly climbing to eventually count 45,000. Marshal Astifadat wasted no time in engaging them, utilising the wide, flat grasslands to deploy his full strength to the battlefield, hoping to overwhelm French positions and force them to retreat eastward.  The ensuing battle would not be so simple, however, with French infantry repelling these early assaults with heavy casualties. The fighting quickly deteriorated into close-quarter sparring after that, only shifting in favour of the Andalusi when two hussar brigades thundered into a desperate charge to foil fate. It was this attack that finally broke the French line, and as panic rapidly spread through enemy ranks, the Andalusi launched another counter-attack and shattered French formations.  Despite suffering the lion’s share of casualties, spirits soared with the hard-won victory, spurring the Andalusi to immediately push northwards and seize another important (and more decisive) victory.   This string of victories would be tempered within weeks, however, with French armies securing control over the Rhine. This was followed by a sustained offensive deep into Bavaria, with München briefly sighted before the Germans were able to counter-attack, aggressively chasing the French back across the border.  This summer campaign alone had cost hundreds of thousands of lives, and neither side had anything much to show for it. More bad news would descend on Paris that very same month, with Irish armies swarming across the border and seizing Manchester, as had become tradition. The Dual Monarchy was now at war on three different fronts, facing three wronged enemies - this, it would seem, was the steep price of continental domination.  Despite facing unassailable odds, however, this war was far from over. The Almoravid Fleet landed an army at Lishbuna late in the winter of 1870, with the 20,000-strong force quickly seizing the city and pushing eastward. They didn’t get very far before being confronted, fortunately, with the Andalusi bringing their advance to a sudden halt at al-Adna.   The victory was Andalusia’s, but whilst this battle had been raging, another Berber army had disembarked near Jabal Tariq, quickly marching on Qadis from the coastal fortress. Zafir ibn Yusuf rushed southward by railway and reached Qadis in the knick of time, battering into the Berbers just as the city’s walls were breached.  The siege of Qadis ultimately proved to be a ruse, however, flawlessly pinning the entirety of Andalusi forces in Iberia down in one place. Another 15,000 Berbers immediately reinforced the fighting, pouring onto the battlefield from concealed locations further east, quickly surrounding large parts of the Andalusi army in a stunning envelopment manoeuvre. From there, the battle could only end in one way.  Almost the entirety of the army was killed or captured in a disastrous massacre, with the few survivors retreating into Qadis, where the garrison had already begun digging trenches around the city boundaries. Trenches would not be enough to repel the Berbers, however, with artillery and cannonry quickly hauled into position from the coast. Qadis would be under heavy bombardment before day’s end, with the city mercilessly shelled whilst being blockaded at sea, all of which came together to bring about a quick and decisive end to the siege. By March of 1871, Qadis had fallen to the Berbers.  And the next few weeks would not be pleasant for its inhabitants, as the Berbers plundered and pillaged with impunity, killed and raped indiscriminately, reft and ravaged mindlessly. Monuments and artefacts were hauled from the city and across the straits, quickly transported to the isolated Almoravid stronghold of Marrakesh, where they were flaunted and paraded down the crowded streets of the city. Forty years later, Morocco had finally avenged the Sack of Marrakesh. Ordinarily, this would’ve spelled the end of the war, but the Andalusi were made from sterner stuff. Sultan Utbah had been secreted out of the capital weeks before, along with the vast majority of the Majlis al-Shura, escaping to the northern stronghold of Tulaytullah. From there, they issued an act for the mobilisation of the general population, with tens of thousands of commoners conscripted into the army over the next few weeks.   Whilst guns and uniforms were thrust into the arms of untrained labourers and peasants, rising tensions had exploded into war elsewhere, with the sabre-rattling revolutionaries in Ibriz instigating war in the Caribbean.  A crisis in the new world had quickly escalated in recent months, centred around the island of Taghzir, where demonstrations and protests had been growing in size and violence. Already fighting expensive wars against Al Andalus and Egypt, the Almoravid government didn’t have the resources to properly tackle yet another crisis, and thus dispatched a small army to brutally crush this uprising in its infancy.  And that they did, firing on and killing hundreds of protesters in a brutal, coordinated suppression campaign. This savagery drew the condemnations of surrounding powers, however, with politicans in Ibriz going beyond that even, and demanding that Morocco withdraw its forces from Taghzir altogether. The Almoravid Sultan ignored this ultimatum, of course, but Ibriz would not be spurned. The Revolutionary Republic declared war on Morocco three days later, vowing to break the chains shackling Taghzir to the old world.  Back in Iberia, meanwhile, the mobilised armies were being put to good use. Some 50,000 levies were deployed to the western provinces, where they began retaking cities and fortresses from Moroccan garrisons, crushing the many revolts and uprisings as they did so.  Another 30,000 were sent south, travelling to Qurtubah by railway, and from there marching on Moroccan positions in Malaqah. Heavy fighting quickly followed, and through numbers alone, they managed to overrun the Berbers and force their retreat. Victory was theirs, however costly.   The Berbers withdrew to the strongly-fortified city of Qartayannat, where they could repulse any attempts to dislodge them. The Andalusi had no interest in pursuing them, however, instead rushing to retake their capital further south. The next forty days would be arduous and relentless, largely consisting of street battles and citadel sieges, but the Andalusi would eventually crush the last Berber holdouts late in August - and Qadis, which never should’ve fallen, was finally retaken.   On the northern front, meanwhile, the Andalusi had met with much more success. After driving the bulk of the French armies northward, Astifadat al-Qutili launched a series of consolidation campaigns, securing control over vast tracts of Occitania and southern France.    And finally, the march on Paris began very late in December, with the historic city only coming into view in the dying hours of 1871, shrouded by the last sunset of the year.  By then, however, the French were a spent force. The Irish were rampaging across Britain, the Rhineland had been lost, half of France was under foreign occupation, and their capital of Paris was now under siege. There was no longer any doubts, they had lost the war.   The ensuing peace conference was a surprisingly civil affair, after all the carnage and butchery of the past two years, with the Archduke of Bavaria making only one demand: that the Dual Monarchy withdraw its forces and diplomats from the Rhine Confederacy, surrendering its influence in the principality to the South German Union. The French, who were in no position to negotiate, could only agree.  And with that, peace was finally re-established on the continent, though the war in Britain would continue to rage for years afterward. Exhausted and shattered French troops were quickly shipped across the Channel, but large parts of the army would mutiny in March of 1871, protesting their delayed payments, the authoritarian command of their generals, and the near-suicidal campaigns they’d been forced to endure.  To the east, meanwhile, another war came to a close. In sharp contrast to the battles of the Rhine Crisis, the Russians had easily vanquished their enemy in a series of decisive engagements stretching across the Baltic, pushing the Scandinavians back into their frozen peninsula.   Further south, the Egyptians had begun peace negotiations with Morocco, demanding that their rule in Cyrenaica be restored. The sheikhs of Cyrenaica had indeed been vassals to the Apanoub dynasty for centuries, only to be ripped away from them at the height of the Tirruni Wars, on the back of the successful Berber invasions of Egypt. The coastal emirate had little strategic value now, however. The Almoravid Sultan agreed to renounce their earlier treaty and acknowledge Egytian rule in Cyrenaica, but only on his terms…   In return for Cyrenaica, Egypt would cut off their ties to Qadis, with a new alliance to be established between them and Morocco instead. King Apanoub had been cozying up to Al Andalus these past few years, but the Sack of Qadis had greatly diminished their standing on the world stage, so it didn’t take him very long to make his decision.  This was not good news for Al Andalus, who had hoped to win Egypt as an ally in future wars against Morocco. At the moment, however, the Majlis had bigger worries to contend with. The conscripted armies were demobilised and dissolved, with the war-weary soldiers sent back to their hovels and farms, perhaps with fewer fingers and more bruises, but alive all the same.  The general mobilisation had hit the economy especially hard, however, with Al Andalus now steeped in war debts. The government immediately restructured the national budget, cutting expenses across the board and levying another harsh tax, determined to repay these debts and begin reconstruction efforts as soon as possible.  Apart from that, however, things were already looking up. Despite the obvious blemish in the Siege of Qadis, the past few years had not been completely disastrous, with a number naval bases constructed in the port-cities dotting the Iberian coasts, in the Atlantic islands and in the distant colonies in the Kongo.   The Imperialists had also begun efforts to claim the rich, fertile lands surrounding the Congo River, dispatching expeditions to negotiate trade agreements, broker vassalage agreements and eventually establish protectorates in South Angola.   And whilst war was raging in Europe, Balanabus Min-al-Bita had been launching imperialistic ventures deep into the largely-unexplored African interior, instigating war with the native kingdoms of Yaka and Kongo.   Eventually, after three years of campaigning, he managed to obtain valuable concessions from the native powers, gradually pushing the boundaries of Andalusi Africa outward in every direction.    Pushing across the tempestuous waves of the Atlantic, meanwhile, the war between Ibriz and Morocco continued to rage unabated. Despite being the aggressors in the conflict, the odds were certainly not in favour of Ibriz, with the revolutionaries facing the daunting alliance of Almoravid Morocco and the Dual Monarchy, along with their vassal states, junior partners and spherelings.  The Ibrizi strategy was simple: to strike hard and fast, and seize the initiative before the old world could retaliate. They set their sights on the Dual Monarchy first, and to prevent them from counter-attacking through Pueblo, the Revolutionary Armies forcibly occupied the native kingdom in an illegal, undeclared invasion.   From there, they pushed northward on a wide-ranging offensive, seizing control of a dozen forts, cities and towns as they swept across French Gharbia.  Back in Europe, the Mutinies of 1873 had hampered any attempts to repel the Celtic invasion of England. By the time the mutineers were captured and executed, Irish armies had reached London, forcing the parliament in Paris to make humiliating concessions to the Celtic Union. And with that, for the first time in over a century, French rule in England was facing serious challenge.   In Iberia, meanwhile, the robust Andalusi economy quickly recovered in the post-war months. A hefty cash reserve was quickly stockpiled, with the vast majority of war debts repaid by Eid of 1874, making the Sultanate solvent once more.  Whilst the moderates concerned themselves with tallying the accounts and completing payments, however, the Imperialists were investing in exciting naval advancements. Building on intelligence gathered during the recent war, Andalusi shipwrights, architects and engineers began experimenting with new designs for ocean-going, steam-powered ships clad in armour and decked with artillery. These ironclads would be very expensive, but if they could be constructed en masse, then the Andalusi could well challenge the status quo on the high seas for the first time in…centuries.   That would have to wait for the future, however, because the year was quickly coming to a close - and with it, the Imperialists’ term in power.  Despite the ups and downs of the past decade, Al Andalus emerges from the Rhine Crisis as a proven power on the world stage. The Moroccan invasions had been repulsed, Occitania and southern France had been occupied, and Andalusi armies had even reached the outskirts of Paris - these victories would not be forgotten. Sultan Utbah thus organised and hosted an extravagant victory parade in Qadis, intent on reviving national pride and patriotism. Despite being an elderly man, the Sultan personally led the parade atop his chestnut mount (closely trailed by SGA agents), followed by field marshals and high-ranking viziers, who were in turn followed by 10,000 Andalusi veterans. The procession spent the better part of a day marching down the length of Qadis, surrounded by thronging crowds and swarming masses, all desperate to taste the splendour and opulence on display.  World map: 
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Imperialists!  This is why the Socialists and Moderates can never be allowed to govern Al-Andalus- our enemies will never stop, never relent, until our society has been destroyed! We must destroy them first! The next time we capture Marrakesh, there won't be two stones left stacked together!
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Those borders in Angola are a crime. Since we have to colonize, can we please buy the Beninese colony at least? Also, we should have mobilized immediately and attacked Catalonia. We needed all the numbers we could get to distract the Morrocans and save Cádiz, and this was a perfect chance to take some cores back!
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Well, that went well, considering the circumstances.
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Frionnel posted:Those borders in Angola are a crime. Since we have to colonize, can we please buy the Beninese colony at least? as I understand it you don't want to press the mobilization button unless you really need to.
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Frionnel posted:Those borders in Angola are a crime. Since we have to colonize, can we please buy the Beninese colony at least? It didn't make sense narratively to jump straight into another European war, steeped in war debts and an unruly population, but it doesn't matter that much. Whoever gains power next (unless it's socialists) will just get the job done. And yeah, mobilisation tanks your economy, which is why we spiralled into debt. It's not something the Imperialists would want to do often.
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Aug 3, 2018 20:40
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Oh my god are we ready going to need another Liberal term to fix the borders. It's ONE PENINSULA.
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Aug 3, 2018 20:51
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See, that went well! But, hmmm... We? Was Cyrenaica actually in our sphere instead of Morocco's?
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Aug 3, 2018 20:54
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Rodyle posted:Oh my god are we ready going to need another Liberal term to fix the borders. It's ONE PENINSULA. I said the same thing when I saw that map. Those colonial borders are atrocious and they'll stay atrocious unless we give the Imperialists another term.
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Aug 3, 2018 20:58
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ZearothK posted:See, that went well! Nope, I followed thread advice and allied with Egypt, who then declared war on Cyrenaica (who was in Morocco's sphere), with us becoming war leader upon joining the war. It ended pretty quickly, with Egypt then turning on us and allying with Morocco, for whatever reason. That seemed kinda convoluted though, and the update was already getting big, so I cut it out.
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