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Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Sep 9, 2022

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Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?
I had friends and co-workers who worked on Reboot back in the late 90's, including that exact shot with megabyte with the guitar.

Things were so expensive, software was 25-100,000 per license, and double that for the SGI workstation you had to do animation on.

On Reboot, the graphics option just to have shaded graphics [not textured, shaded] was $50,000, so a lot of the work was done and approved in wireframe, sent to render and that was it. Any mistakes after that point were too expensive to redo for broadcast.

Which is why you see Megabytes arm clipping through his chest with the guitar on that shot, my friend animated that shot and it drove him loving nuts once he saw the final render that he couldn't go back and fix it.

Things moved so fast hardware wise by the time they were on the last season they had much faster and cheaper workstations where they could work in shaded mode, etc. I think season 3 they were off abc and on cable so they didn't have to deal with broadcast standards and practices, once that happened they had a halloween/horror themed episode where they broke every BS&P rule they could think of [Child engagement, characters going through broken glass, gore [enzos eye popping out and flying right into Dots tits, etc]

More currently, LOL @ Vancouver and Montreal hiding how much money they are blowing on film/vfx/animation subsidies... 55-58% labor rebate, similar rebate costs on expenses... I saw animation studios running render farms off diesel truck generators for months because they can write off diesel fuel but not hydro [its meant for remote set stage lighting but that wasn't technically defined in the rebate scheme]. Also saw one studio cook the books on local labor by somehow claiming wages/expenses from UK/Indian employees on the BC rebate system. There's no auditing so the big LA studios get away with murder.

BC tried to but the brakes on the program in 2016, and Sony threatened to shutdown Imageworks/Sony Animation in Vancouver immediately if they did that so they basically cut it 3% and left the program alone [$700M-1B a year] :v:

BTW, no matter where you are in the world, if Hollywood comes knocking with "JOBS!" combined with refundable tax credits.... RUN!



Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 9, 2022

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
I dunno, I always liked that victim impact statement guy...

Weird BIAS
Jul 5, 2007

so... guess that's it, huh? just... don't say i didn't warn you.
Season 3 had an Evil Dead homage of all things.

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

Weird BIAS posted:

Season 3 had an Evil Dead homage of all things.

That was the gently caress-ABC episode...

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Hey Frank you got any hot weed stock tips?

I love taking gambling advice from ancient comedy forums.

(I'm serious.)

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Sep 9, 2022

Lars Blitzer
Aug 17, 2004

He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink...


Dick Tracy's number one fan.

Big K of Justice posted:

I had friends and co-workers who worked on Reboot back in the late 90's, including that exact shot with megabyte with the guitar.

Things were so expensive, software was 25-100,000 per license, and double that for the SGI workstation you had to do animation on.

On Reboot, the graphics option just to have shaded graphics [not textured, shaded] was $50,000, so a lot of the work was done and approved in wireframe, sent to render and that was it. Any mistakes after that point were too expensive to redo for broadcast.

Which is why you see Megabytes arm clipping through his chest with the guitar on that shot, my friend animated that shot and it drove him loving nuts once he saw the final render that he couldn't go back and fix it.

Things moved so fast hardware wise by the time they were on the last season they had much faster and cheaper workstations where they could work in shaded mode, etc. I think season 3 they were off abc and on cable so they didn't have to deal with broadcast standards and practices, once that happened they had a halloween/horror themed episode where they broke every BS&P rule they could think of [Child engagement, characters going through broken glass, gore [enzos eye popping out and flying right into Dots tits, etc]

More currently, LOL @ Vancouver and Montreal hiding how much money they are blowing on film/vfx/animation subsidies... 55-58% labor rebate, similar rebate costs on expenses... I saw animation studios running render farms off diesel truck generators for months because they can write off diesel fuel but not hydro [its meant for remote set stage lighting but that wasn't technically defined in the rebate scheme]. Also saw one studio cook the books on local labor by somehow claiming wages/expenses from UK/Indian employees on the BC rebate system. There's no auditing so the big LA studios get away with murder.

BC tried to but the brakes on the program in 2016, and Sony threatened to shutdown Imageworks/Sony Animation in Vancouver immediately if they did that so they basically cut it 3% and left the program alone [$700M-1B a year] :v:

BTW, no matter where you are in the world, if Hollywood comes knocking with "JOBS!" combined with refundable tax credits.... RUN!

I kinda figured there was some shady dealings going on with Vancouver being "Hollywood North." I didn't think it would be THAT bad though.

More Weed Talk, Part LXCVII or whatever: I'd keep an eye on Atlas Growers. They've been working on proper cultivation and development of the crop, so quality is likely to be better than average, if not great. Business wise, they also seem to be on the ball as far as anyone in this market can be without being outright owned by conglomerate, I suppose. https://atlasgrowers.com/

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

One day I hope to pass down the sweat of my brow to my sons so that they may inherit the family weed farm and one day pass it down to their sons.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

They called it "a soddie".

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

EvidenceBasedQuack posted:

Even though I cannot vote in Quebec Elections I was at a Quebec Solidaire event in Gatineau. There are separatists among them but the topics tonight were progressive policies. Ended with a nice old lady doing surprisingly good poetry slam about eating the rich or something :3:

I work for the Quebec Solidaire campaign in a limited capacity and I have been super impressed. They are putting forth probably the most progressive ideas I’ve seen in Canada over the last while and anyone wondering if a Bernie style campaign can find success in Canada should be paying attention.

Their platform among other things: 15$ minimum wage, tagged to inflation, universal dental insurance modelled after the UK, free education from childcare to doctorate and the reduction of public transit fares by 50%.

To answer those who say that these programs would be too expensive, their platform is costed and even involves a net reduction of income taxes for about 70ish% of Quebecois. They would also end all public subsidies for private schools among others to make up what they estimate these promises would cost.

Especially since their merger with Option Nationale, they are a sovereignist party, though not the “that drat ethnic vote” kind put forth by the Parti Quebecois. This kind is meant as inclusive to all types of immigrants and a refunding of programs meant to teach new arrivals French. Gabriel-Nadeau Dubois, one of the co-leaders wrote a letter to Justin Trudeau after the purchase of the 4.5 billion pipeline which argued a case for sovereignty that I suspect some even in this thread might agree with: that Canada has chosen as its societal project to remain a resource extraction economy and to develop the oil industry at all costs. The handout to Kinder Morgan isn’t something they accept be done with their tax dollars. Therefore, if Quebec has as a societal goal to pursue the decarbonisation of its economy and create a just socialist society, then it won’t be done until Quebec is no longer partially controlled by regions who elect conservative governments and depend on the resource extraction model to survive.

Otherwise, they have a pretty cool campaign where any member can plan an event through their platform and they have hired Quebecois artists to make their campaign posters which advertise their platform ideas. Members are free to print the hundred or so posters themselves and can even submit new ones that the party themselves have begun to post. I’ll post some of these later if anyone is interested.

Either way, if you believe in cross-pollination of ideas, throw a few bucks their way. They stand to gain a few more seats and if they did, they might gain the balance of power. They have stated that they would only make a deal with a government that would immediately implement PR.

Since Quebecois politics are generally inaccessible for anglos and I at least never heard about them in BC, I’ll post more as the campaign goes on if anyone is interested.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
Yeah, I'm interested. I lived a few years in Montreal, they are definitely the best party in Canada right now that isn't the CPC.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

ARACHTION posted:

Their platform among other things: 15$ minimum wage, tagged to inflation, universal dental insurance modelled after the UK, free education from childcare to doctorate and the reduction of public transit fares by 50%.

Don't forget creation of a public ISP to provide high speed Internet to all regions.

It says a lot about Canadian telcos that I find this the least feasible of all their platform points. :canada:

My riding was the first to elect a Quebec Solidaire MNA, though he's stepping down this election cycle. His replacement seems competent, but she's pretty new so I don't know if she'll get elected. Quebec Solidaire pretty much gets shafted by FPTP.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.
Quebec: Canada's Scotland.

This is pretty cool. I can see donating to them, both to support a group I agree with and for the absurdity of a west coaster supporting a party he can't vote for. (Unless, of course, that would violate an elections financing act somewhere.)

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
If a new sovereignty movement is based around getting the gently caress out of Federation because they are trying to move past the rest of Canada and feel restrained, I feel like I can support that a lot more then being made cause you didn't get the wording you wanted in the constitution.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Hexigrammus posted:

Quebec: Canada's Scotland.

This is a lot more apt than you might think.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Is Scotland also really racist?

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

The Butcher posted:

Hey Frank you got any hot weed stock tips?

I love taking gambling advice from ancient comedy forums.

(I'm serious.)

Most of my clients are private equity, and I'm (strongly) of the opinion that most of the publicly traded companies are a) garbage and b) deeply unethical.

Even if you can find some aspect of one of these companies worth investing in, there's usually five countervailing forces making them trash that will probably fail. The reality is still that most of the talent and expertise is on the black/grey side of the market, and the smartest investments usually involve partnering with somebody from that side of the fence on a new company that actually knows wtf they're doing.

Those types of partnerships are very new and most of them aren't public yet, and when they are they are... well, like I said, there's typically other reasons to avoid that company. As an example, the deal Canopy recently announced with Matt Beren and Kirk Tousaw- that's a very good idea, but not enough to make me buy shares in a company whose cost per gram is currently like $3.75. :stare:

None of the existing LPs are "good" companies in any meaningful sense. Investing in a company that doesn't know how to grow weed AND is trading off their medical license and loving over their current patients so they can stockpile product for the rec market... I'll pass, thanks.

In short, if you don't really know a lot about weed and how it's grown and who grows it and why, you're better off investing in the picks and axes side of things, like the analytical testing labs.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Sep 9, 2022

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

Jan posted:

Don't forget creation of a public ISP to provide high speed Internet to all regions.

It says a lot about Canadian telcos that I find this the least feasible of all their platform points. :canada:

My riding was the first to elect a Quebec Solidaire MNA, though he's stepping down this election cycle. His replacement seems competent, but she's pretty new so I don't know if she'll get elected. Quebec Solidaire pretty much gets shafted by FPTP.

This riding is a priority and both the one I live and kinda work in. There are a couple of worries, one that votes usually directed at Amir Khadir (for others, the politician they mentioned stepping down) might not transfer automatically to Ruba Ghazal (the new candidate). The other is that the riding has been reshaped to take in a bit of Outremont, an area not known to vote for QS.

This election is definitely different than those in the past and QS is all over the media.

Oh yeah, the high speed internet thing is meant to be set at a 30% lower cost than other internet and they would make deals with all the small players to bring them into the Quebec Tel or whatever they were gonna call it. They sure want the rural vote, but if it messes with the Canadian Telcom cartel then I’m 100% down.

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

Hexigrammus posted:

Quebec: Canada's Scotland.

This is pretty cool. I can see donating to them, both to support a group I agree with and for the absurdity of a west coaster supporting a party he can't vote for. (Unless, of course, that would violate an elections financing act somewhere.)

With Quebec campaign finance laws, you can contribute 200$ max in election years only if you are an eligible voter. I’ll look into if donations in general can be made from out of province if not earmarked for campaigning.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

infernal machines posted:

Is Scotland also really racist?

outside of glasgow, yeah. even in glasgow it's not great but glasgow's changed a lot over the last 10 years

All the young francophones I knew weren't really into the sovereignty politics of the previous generation, and were much more concerned with Quebec getting to define and maintain its social programs. I don't think any of them really wanted to waste time leaving Canada. When it came to 'soft' sovereignty' issues like Bill 101 there was much more of a split, but my best guess is that reflects the changing meaning of sovereignty within Quebec now that you're several generations removed from french Quebecois largely disenfranchised politically and economically within their own province.

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Sep 4, 2018

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum


The Quebec solidaire posters are great. Here we see some finer specimens of humanity reacting to one.

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity
CAQ voters can get hosed

Please update us on Quebec Solidaire stuff :)

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
lmao.

"anti-blanc"

Indeed, they're coming for your honky rear end.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Nine of Eight posted:



The Quebec solidaire posters are great. Here we see some finer specimens of humanity reacting to one.
This is barely French.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Nine of Eight posted:



The Quebec solidaire posters are great. Here we see some finer specimens of humanity reacting to one.

That last dude, holy poo poo.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Nine of Eight posted:



The Quebec solidaire posters are great. Here we see some finer specimens of humanity reacting to one.

Why do you have this person's posts visible on Facebook somehow? :thunk:

(I was trying to find that post and then the people commenting on it to see if any of them have an employer listed that might be interested in hearing about their employees' stellar Facebook posting...)

edit: Guess it's a closed group and the image has already been shared around in attempt to do just that and doxx these cretins.

Jan fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Sep 4, 2018

brucio
Nov 22, 2004
Are the NDP competitive in the Quebec election? I have seen quite a few signs in Gatineau for them... Probably more QS ones tho

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Nine of Eight posted:



The Quebec solidaire posters are great. Here we see some finer specimens of humanity reacting to one.

Québécois is a loving joke language lmao

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

CLAM DOWN posted:

Québécois is a loving joke language lmao

I was having fun trying to translate that in my head without using google translate as someone with totally terrible french.

Here was my guess, I'm curious how far off I was if a real speaker can chime in:

quote:

This election sign is tasteless(?) anti-white on a pole on the street of my house

And presumably they are mad because it has... a black person smiling on it?

vvv :thanks:! Lol didn't have a clue on that first comment.

The Butcher fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 5, 2018

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.
The OP's french is spelled correctly, roughly: "The political sign of the anti-white leftards on the pole a few feet from my home..." (gogauche being a derisive way of referring to the left).

The first comment pretty much only makes sense if you can parse the Quebecois accent, though. "Tear it down then shoot it with a paintball gun."

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
OK someone explain to me the "they should have put a white with yellow teeth instead of an african american with pretty white teeth" comment

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

The NPD provincially seems hardly organized beyond a couple of urban ridings. Before signing up to work for QS, I checked out their website and it was full of dead links and so poorly designed I had to stop. I think they are scooping up votes from the leftists who aren’t sovereignist? The QS people who worked during the last federal election were working for NDP.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Entropic posted:

OK someone explain to me the "they should have put a white with yellow teeth instead of an african american with pretty white teeth" comment

It's not "they should have[...]," it's more like "they'd have done better to[...]"

Reince Penis fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Sep 5, 2018

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Well I guess nine years of hung over French teachers showing Telefrancais videos taught me enough to be able to understand racist Facebook posts.

Thanks Ananas.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

Well I guess nine years of hung over French teachers showing Telefrancais videos taught me enough to be able to understand racist Facebook posts.

Thanks Ananas.

Hey now, Jacques and Sophie did their part. :colbert:

The fact I can still remember that stuff 25 years later terrifies me a bit.

e:

Furnaceface fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Sep 5, 2018

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity
I attended the QS event with a bunch of NDPeeps

The QNDP leadership winner was the centrist guy. Also the comments above. And with FPTP better strategize I guess

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum

Entropic posted:

OK someone explain to me the "they should have put a white with yellow teeth instead of an african american with pretty white teeth" comment

The slogan on the bottom of the poster was advocating for government sponsored dental care IIRC.

cowofwar posted:

This is barely French.

It’s barely Quebecois either.

sitchensis
Mar 4, 2009

Hypothetically, how could a province secede from Canada and become its own nation these days?

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The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

sitchensis posted:

Hypothetically, how could a province secede from Canada and become its own nation these days?

You just need to raise a large enough army.

CSIS: Is joke. No jail plz.

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