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maskenfreiheit posted:i found this exchange on hn some say the hiring team is still waiting for HR to give them a candidate to this day
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maskenfreiheit posted:i found this exchange on hn if the recruiter say put 'unix' on your resume and you cant put 'unix' on your resume maybe life at facebook is not for you
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PCjr sidecar posted:if the recruiter say put 'unix' on your resume and you cant put 'unix' on your resume maybe life at facebook is not for you nah man you gotta explain all the technical details because you're technically correct and people love feeling talked down to
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PCjr sidecar posted:if the recruiter say put 'unix' on your resume and you cant put 'unix' on your resume maybe life at facebook is not for you if you can't read, maybe posting is not for you? he put 'UNIX' in the second version he's 100% correct he had the experience they wanted & did his best to explain to this to the recruiter who was apparently denser than concrete
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Ploft-shell crab posted:if you can't read, maybe posting is not for you? he put 'UNIX' in the second version  I did not see that the first time I read it
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or the recruiter had a specific string that had to match the resume for stupid reasons and was trying to hint that without editing his resume
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or facebook gets a literal mountain of applicants and they'll cut you out for any arbitrary reason they can think of and there's nothing you can do about it
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By contrast, the Facebook recruiter I talked with could chat at length about Linux's initrd mechanism.
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TerminalRaptor posted:how common are non-technical development managers in a software company? I'm guessing not at all for obvious reasons. exceptionally common fortunately it's not really something my employer does: at least in the parts of the company I interact with, management can do line employees' jobs up through the senior VP level (and often has done them)
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Facebook recruiters finally stopped bothering me after I said I don't want to work to an advertising company or a company when the users were the product
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does it work, or is it as bad as I'd imagine?
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Ploft-shell crab posted:if you can't read, maybe posting is not for you? he put 'UNIX' in the second version if u cant avoid well, actuallying a recruiter maybe u fail the first test
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eschaton posted:exceptionally common at oldjob employees got real nervous when the bosses would try to figure out how to do their job or what the gently caress their report's job was now i just learn how to do my reports' jobs and if they get nervous i tell them it's so they can take loving vacations, for gently caress's sake guess why i left oldjob
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minato posted:By contrast, the Facebook recruiter I talked with could chat at length about Linux's initrd mechanism.  WELL ACTUALLY initrd is still supported but considered obsolete. initramfs is probably what you're thinking of. eschaton posted:Facebook recruiters finally stopped bothering me after I said I don't want to work to an advertising company or a company when the users were the product yep instead you work for a company with more money than God and basically unchecked power over the machinery that a good chunk of the western world uses to interact with society itself. but that's cool because capitalism is awesome and the interests of the general public and this benevolent dictator cannot ever possibly come into conflict. 
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ability to bottle up your aspergers within a work environment should be a primary skill recruiters look for. this dude failed.
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so found out my team is getting resolved and there is a push for dev resources to be at corporate hq in the Midwest Guess I have to nut up on that interview anxiety and find job and hopefully 6 figgies
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hobbesmaster posted:extremely common Fairly common for a technical manager to be a guy who started out as a junior tech grunt, wasn't great at it, and thus moved into management to advance. So they know a tiny bit, but basically only enough to be dangerous.
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TerminalRaptor posted:how common are non-technical development managers in a software company? I'm guessing not at all for obvious reasons. Echoing some earlier sentiment: but its extremely common and extremely annoying. I've never had a good manager that couldn't program, and never had a bad manager that could. Not that a bad manager-who-could-program couldn't exist, but HR/the interview process is good at filtering out the weirdos; figuring out how much technical experience a manager has (or should have, some places don't even think its important which is even more mind boggling) is the hard part. So anyway, you'll be fine. If you interviewed here and kept your programming skills even remotely up to date and weren't a weirdo, it'd be a no brain hire.
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maskenfreiheit posted:i found this exchange on hn hmm, pedantic tech dork cant figure out how to interact with humans. how surprising.
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recruiters for technical positions are usually the worst because they clearly just have some keywords they are looking for and don't really know anything about the actual skills. however, knowing this, the smart thing to do is just edit you're resume to fit the keywords they are looking for.
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Had the on-site interview at Amazon today, I think it went well. Saw all scheduled interviewers, and was getting the vibe that I was "clicking" with everyone. Hopefully I hear back from the recruiter soon with an update.
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my worst-ever boss was a technology guy so was my best don't tech shame I guess?
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i'm a technology guy and also a boss of 3 people. my strategy is to lead through inspiration, i want to do good work so they aspire to that standard, and so far this has worked great. i also take an active interest in their career development, make sure they are engaged on the projects they're working on, etc. if they ever need anything or want to come in late because of whatever my response is "ok cool"
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Shaggar posted:hmm, pedantic tech dork cant figure out how to interact with humans. how surprising. *Ahem* *clears throat* *adjusts glasses and brushes metrosexual haircut out of eyes* do you even know what POSIX is? loving noob?
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JewKiller 3000 posted:i'm a technology guy and also a boss of 3 people. my strategy is to lead through inspiration, i want to do good work so they aspire to that standard, and so far this has worked great. i also take an active interest in their career development, make sure they are engaged on the projects they're working on, etc. if they ever need anything or want to come in late because of whatever my response is "ok cool" Managing people owns until you end up managing people who consistently fail to do what is asked of them
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yeah i'm lucky because i just don't allow those people on my team 
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I had one guy who joined a cult. That was fun. I was able to fob the other one off to support engineering. I hated the admin stuff, though.
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qhat posted:Managing people owns until you end up managing people who consistently fail to do what is asked of them that's when you're supposed to PDP them and/or fire them
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:that's when you're supposed to PDP them and/or fire them Haven't had to go as far as fire anyone yet, but I don't really get a hard on thinking about being the guy who has break it to them.
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JewKiller 3000 posted:yeah i'm lucky because i just don't allow those people on my team The rub is you can't know whether they are a lazy dipshit until they are actually in your team.
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firing somebody is an absolutely wretched feeling 99% of the time, agreed. sometimes ya gotta jettison the dead weight tho
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:that's when you're supposed to PDP them and/or fire them just don't dec me
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the best life is being a lazy dipshit who still exceeds expectations somehow
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Flat Daddy posted:the best life is being a lazy dipshit who still exceeds expectations somehow 
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Flat Daddy posted:the best life is being a lazy dipshit who still exceeds expectations somehow 
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Flat Daddy posted:the best life is being a lazy dipshit who still exceeds expectations somehow
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