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Fluff question: If virus bombs consume all organic material, why haven't they been used on the Tyranids? Do they just plot armor adapt to it or something?
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Jun 6, 2020 03:20
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Gaussian posted:Fluff question: If virus bombs consume all organic material, why haven't they been used on the Tyranids? Do they just plot armor adapt to it or something? I think the issue is getting a virus bomb to a place where it would actually meaningfully damage a hive fleet.
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Jun 6, 2020 03:30
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Gaussian posted:Fluff question: If virus bombs consume all organic material, why haven't they been used on the Tyranids? Do they just plot armor adapt to it or something? My assumption is that once a Tyranid invasion of a planet starts they already have orbital superiority and likely control the system in terms of fleet so bombarding the planet with virus bombs probably isn't a viable option.
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Jun 6, 2020 03:30
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Strobe posted:I think the issue is getting a virus bomb to a place where it would actually meaningfully damage a hive fleet. Yeah I think they don't work very well in space
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Jun 6, 2020 03:34
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The planet would never be good for anything again afterwards. Much of the point of defending the planets is to hopefully stave off the invasion and continue to use the planet, which would be defeated by virus bombing. Inquisitor Kryptman did controversially use virus bombs against planets attacked by Hive Fleet Leviathan to starve the fleet of biomass in this way, but the subsector they were invading through was basically lost.
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Jun 6, 2020 03:38
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:Inquisitor Kryptman did controversially use virus bombs against planets attacked by Hive Fleet Leviathan to starve the fleet of biomass in this way, but the subsector they were invading through was basically lost. A fantastic idea really, I wonder what happened to that guy. Nothing bad I hope?
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Jun 6, 2020 03:39
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:The planet would never be good for anything again afterwards. Much of the point of defending the planets is to hopefully stave off the invasion and continue to use the planet, which would be defeated by virus bombing. Dante did the same to Leviathan around Baal
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Jun 6, 2020 03:45
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ThoraxTheImpaler posted:A fantastic idea really, I wonder what happened to that guy. Nothing bad I hope? He got fired.
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Jun 6, 2020 06:32
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:The planet would never be good for anything again afterwards. Much of the point of defending the planets is to hopefully stave off the invasion and continue to use the planet, which would be defeated by virus bombing. Didn't he virus-bomb planets in the predicted path of Hive Fleet Leviathan so they wouldn't find any resources in their path through the sector, rather than using them on planets under attack?
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Jun 6, 2020 06:41
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Yeah, a virus bomb ON Tyranids is only useful in a very short term way - You kill the immediate attack, then they digest it, and oh poo poo now you have Biovores firing Virus Bomb Spore Mines at you. Kryptmann used it to kill everything else in front of them so they'd be lacking in biomass.
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Jun 6, 2020 06:42
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I think Farsight beat a Tyranid splinter by injecting them with a whole bunch of highly viral and fast-acting viruses while they were clustered together, which is pretty ballsy.
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Jun 6, 2020 07:04
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Shockeh posted:Yeah, a virus bomb ON Tyranids is only useful in a very short term way - You kill the immediate attack, then they digest it, and oh poo poo now you have Biovores firing Virus Bomb Spore Mines at you. I thought using the virus bombs was effective in that whatever ingested it died, so it didn't get back to home base. The only issue is they don't work in space and they kill literally everything if you use them on a planet.
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Jun 6, 2020 08:15
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Got my Serberys Raiders, man this is a great kit. Some of my favourite models they've ever put out, but apocalypse Jawa cowboys were always gonna be my jam. There's a new transfers sheet in the box too, which is helpfully labelled and has some nice new additions. The hazard stripes in particular are very welcome. 
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Jun 6, 2020 08:53
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Got my pre-order this morning, about half an hour I got the actual dispatch email, so that's nice. Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend!
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Jun 6, 2020 09:15
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As we all know, Arch Warhammer is a well-known Nazi piece of poo poo who makes Warhammer lore videos and also advocates for genocide. The members of his Discord also fantasise about loving kids! If anyone were to want to report him to Patreon and Discord, cutting off his income and fanbase, that would be devastating. The links to make this easy are below. https://www.patreon.com/user?u=3863342 cite: https://twitter.com/KapnJono/status/1269020243831201796 https://mega.nz/folder/vUYwwIJZ#PqyYQZYPYZUJCjEgKfGMkg And to Discord here: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000029731 https://discordapp.com/channels/493502127357034519/493635008481722369/715892447238029374 Server number: 493502127357034519
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Jun 6, 2020 09:47
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JBP posted:I thought using the virus bombs was effective in that whatever ingested it died, so it didn't get back to home base. The only issue is they don't work in space and they kill literally everything if you use them on a planet. In the heresy era don't virus bombs produce flammable fumes that you can ignite with a Lance? And cause whole planets to burn?
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Jun 6, 2020 10:27
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Speckled Jim posted:In the heresy era don't virus bombs produce flammable fumes that you can ignite with a Lance? And cause whole planets to burn? I thought that was a different thing. Like a volkite gas thing? Maybe I'm nuts.
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Jun 6, 2020 10:40
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Speckled Jim posted:In the heresy era don't virus bombs produce flammable fumes that you can ignite with a Lance? And cause whole planets to burn? That's how the life eater virus works in general, the breakdown of all biological matter produces so much gas that it can either self ignite or be ignited by an external source and start a planet wide conflagration. This is different from the Atmospheric incinerator Torpedo as well.
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Jun 6, 2020 10:49
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Cooked Auto posted:That's how the life eater virus works in general, the breakdown of all biological matter produces so much gas that it can either self ignite or be ignited by an external source and start a planet wide conflagration. This is different from the Atmospheric incinerator Torpedo as well. Its almost as if black library writers just come up with whatever planet destroying weapons they want on a whim. I'll always remember the story of ancient, I want to say Rylinor, watching the planet die around him on one of the istvaans. There is some good writing to be found in those 40+ books. They are what got me to take the plunge all those years ago.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:08
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Oh the AIT was made up for the Medusa campaign while I think the Life eater virus is one of the oldest exterminatus weapons in 40k with roots all the way back in the first couple of book for the setting. Before there was even a Black Library.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:19
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Gaussian posted:Fluff question: If virus bombs consume all organic material, why haven't they been used on the Tyranids? Do they just plot armor adapt to it or something? Shockeh posted:Yeah, a virus bomb ON Tyranids is only useful in a very short term way - You kill the immediate attack, then they digest it, and oh poo poo now you have Biovores firing Virus Bomb Spore Mines at you. Tyranids are just 40k Borg. They can adapt to any obvious plot counter immediately, in order to prolong the suspense as long as possible. However Nids are genetically engineered to lose to a desperately heroic hail mary play at the end of the episode, so our heroes can fight another day.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:30
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xtothez posted:Tyranids are just 40k Borg. They can adapt to any obvious plot counter immediately, in order to prolong the suspense as long as possible. However Nids are genetically engineered to lose to a desperately heroic hail mary play at the end of the episode, so our heroes can fight another day. I think generally with the Nids, they're quick to adapt but it still takes time and resources. Virus bombs would probably work two or three times with diminishing returns as the hive fleet started to breed resistant strains. I think there's also mention of Nids surviving intense planetary bombardment by burrowing deep underground only to burst out years later.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:54
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Corrode posted:As we all know, Arch Warhammer is a well-known Nazi piece of poo poo who makes Warhammer lore videos and also advocates for genocide. The members of his Discord also fantasise about loving kids!
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Jun 6, 2020 12:11
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Tommu posted:Love (hate) that this shitter calls his patreon the sheckle donation page. totally unsurprising huh hit that mfin report button!
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Jun 6, 2020 12:53
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I mean the Tyranids are one of the few races where exterminatus (not necessarily virus bombs) is most often used because the whole point is that it renders the planet almost totally useless, and losing a planet is way worse than billions of guardsmen to retake a planet. So they only time they use it is when the planet is lost anyway, which with Tyranids is basically every time they win. I think Kryptman did exterminatus a couple of planets before the Tyranids showed up, but most of them were virus bombed after the Tyranids successfully invaded. The logic being the Hive Fleet expended the resources to capture the planet, and then all those resources (and the biomass on the planet) were destroyed, gradually wearing the fleet down. Obviously the coolest thing he did was the Kryptman gambit where he instigated the war between the Tyranids and the Orks on Octavia to slow down the Hive Fleet, which worked fine until Ghazgull turned up and kicked the poo poo out of the Tyranids.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:54
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SerCypher posted:Sorry I'm REALLY out of it I think. I am planning to get the 9th edition rulebook, but I was kind of hoping to have an idea of what's good in the rules so I know what kind of models I want to get. Wait until 9E drops, buy the 9E rules, then you can make the call. We don't know exactly how seriously we're meant to take "You can still use your codices, guys!" or when IG will get a refreshed book. For now: buy models, wait for the 9E rules. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Jun 6, 2020 13:16
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Here's the progress I've been making on my space marines for practicing painting techniques: I've learnt a lot from doing this, I think the biggest improvement has been on painting free hand designs, very proud of the Excoriators logo, the silver skulls aren't quite as good but a big improvement on my first attempt. The white armour looks good i think, not super happy with the metallics, it's harder to work with in terms of getting the chest decoration to look silver compared to the armour it's on. The guys that will be Black Consuls only arrived yesterday so not done much with them.
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Jun 6, 2020 14:04
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Hold eveything - are those Enslavers at the 10 o'clock position?
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Jun 6, 2020 14:08
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xtothez posted:Tyranids are just 40k Borg. They can adapt to any obvious plot counter immediately, in order to prolong the suspense as long as possible. However Nids are genetically engineered to lose to a desperately heroic hail mary play at the end of the episode, so our heroes can fight another day. When you think about it, every species the Tyranids have consumed was necessarily a losing side, so they're essentially collecting a giant repository of losing traits. No wonder they fail at the last hurdle! The more species they consume, the more inevitable their final failure becomes. 
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Jun 6, 2020 14:18
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Corrode posted:As we all know, Arch Warhammer is a well-known Nazi piece of poo poo who makes Warhammer lore videos and also advocates for genocide. The members of his Discord also fantasise about loving kids! I reported his Patreon
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Jun 6, 2020 14:23
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Kitchner posted:Here's the progress I've been making on my space marines for practicing painting techniques: Think you did really nice on the whites.
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Jun 6, 2020 14:42
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Professor Shark posted:I reported his Patreon We should all be reporting this on patreon.
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Jun 6, 2020 15:24
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Corrode posted:As we all know, Arch Warhammer is a well-known Nazi piece of poo poo who makes Warhammer lore videos and also advocates for genocide. The members of his Discord also fantasise about loving kids! Reported on both Patreon and Discord. Thanks for putting this together, Corrode!
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Jun 6, 2020 16:12
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Gameko posted:Think you did really nice on the whites. Thanks, in the end it was really simple: Grey Seer undercoat, then a base coat of Corax white. Paint Apothecary White contrast paint into the recesses and shaded areas, and then highlight in skull white. In other news it seems a number of big tournaments have said they are going to move to the new, smaller, table sizes. For a 2,000 point game that's 44 x 60 rather than 48 x 72. Obviously that's a difference of 6 inches on the width and 12 on the length, but the biggest difference is of course on the diagonal, which goes from about 87 inches to 74, which is a difference of 13 inches. (I think, geometry wasn't my strong point in maths). Obviously helps close combat armies at first, but I think the deployment rules are the same distance from each other as before, so actually what it's doing is creating shallower deployment zones. Which I guess doesn't make it faster to get to someone but does mean you've got less space to hide basilisk or have layers of screening units before whatever it is you're protecting. Might end up being the biggest impact on the game in 9th other than the mission design.
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Jun 6, 2020 17:37
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So I recently gained access to a prusa filament 3d printer. I know it's not good enough to print literal minis, but what are good things to try and make with it?
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Jun 6, 2020 21:03
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My friend made some of those model holders for painting (I'm sure there's an actual name I'm forgetting) with a 3d printer + a rubber band as well as a paint set rack.
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Jun 6, 2020 21:09
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There's a ton of terrain on thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=40k+terrain&type=things&sort=relevant You'd be surprised what you can get away with once you get the settings dialed in. Tanks and dreadnaughts sized things work fine for friendly games. Robot Uprising fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Jun 6, 2020 21:09
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Robot Uprising posted:There's a ton of terrain on thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=40k+terrain&type=things&sort=relevant I've printed a couple tanks and they look decent once they've been sanded + painted. I'm getting a resin printer in a couple weeks so I can finally print some of these dudes https://www.patreon.com/themakerscult/posts imperial guard equivs so that I dont need to look at cadian models from the dawn of time.
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Jun 6, 2020 21:21
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3D printers are perfect for making war game terrain. Either searching Thingiverse, or buying files from places like Printable Scenery.
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Corrode posted:As we all know, Arch Warhammer is a well-known Nazi piece of poo poo who makes Warhammer lore videos and also advocates for genocide. The members of his Discord also fantasise about loving kids! Jesus Christ gently caress this guy. Thanks for posting this, reported his Discord server and his Patreon.
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