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Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Hoops posted:

I was just watching that. It always annoys me how easy the music questions are. They'll ask specific questions about characters from lesser known Shakespeare plays, but then they'll have a "name the composer" round and the answers are as easy as "Beethoven, Chopin and Bach", which anyone with even a sligth interest in classical music would be able to atleast guess at. I mean, I studied maths and music at uni, and I reckon I would get less than 2/3rds of the maths questions on my best day, but there is barely ever a music question I can't get instantly and it's not as though I sit there listening to classical music all day. University Challenge has always been big on history, art history and english literature, but they really don't make the effort for music questions.

I disagree. While there will always be questions about Bach, Beethoven and Mozart, there are also plenty of questions about Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet. More obscure composers obviously don't come up as frequently but they still make occasional appearances. The fact that you can answer most of them quickly is down to spending 3 years at uni (plus somewhere from 5 to 12 before, and however many since) playing and listening to classical music, giving you a familiarity with it that the vast majority of people just don't have.

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Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

My favourite part of Uni Challenge is Paxman's barely disguised disgust on the occasions the music round dares dip into the last 100 years.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

Derek Agony posted:

I disagree. While there will always be questions about Bach, Beethoven and Mozart, there are also plenty of questions about Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet. More obscure composers obviously don't come up as frequently but they still make occasional appearances. The fact that you can answer most of them quickly is down to spending 3 years at uni (plus somewhere from 5 to 12 before, and however many since) playing and listening to classical music, giving you a familiarity with it that the vast majority of people just don't have.
It's not as though I didn't think of that, come on. It's something I notice every single time I watch it, I've been saying it for years now.

My knowledge of maths is a lot stronger than my knowledge of classical music, which means I can say with confidence the maths questions are much, much more specialist than the musical ones. That's why I brought it up. You would have to be a dedicated, above-average maths student to get most of the maths questions but I don't know a single music student who wouldn't be able to get nearly all the UC questions.

Specific examples: Tonight there was the "New World Largo" by Dvorak. That's a hugely famous piece of music, especially to the British public. I'm not saying that the vast majority people can name it or its composer (its way more famous as the Hovis theme tune), but far more people would know it was Dvorak than would know other UC questions, it isn't specific, degree-level knowledge at all.

In contrast, there was a question about the Goldbach conjecture. No-one who doesn't have the knowledge of atleast a second year maths student is going to be able to come close to being able to name the Goldbach conjecture.

My general knowledge is good enough to recognise what is an easy question and what is esoteric knowledge, and I'm telling you, all the other subjects except like the "name this country on a map" questions require a much deeper knowledge of your subject than the music rounds.

Hoops fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Aug 22, 2011

Wormophile
Jul 22, 2007

me am fun

Cerv posted:

My favourite part of Uni Challenge is Paxman's barely disguised disgust on the occasions the music round dares dip into the last 100 years.

I like the twinkle in his eye when he takes a shine to a team

Hoops posted:

It's not as though I didn't think of that, come on. It's something I notice every single time I watch it, I've been saying it for years now.

My knowledge of maths is a lot stronger than my knowledge of classical music, which means I can say with confidence the maths questions are much, much more specialist than the musical ones. That's why I brought it up. You would have to be a dedicated, above-average maths student to get most of the maths questions but I don't know a single music student who wouldn't be able to get nearly all the UC questions.

Specific examples: Tonight there was the "New World Largo" by Dvorak. That's a hugely famous piece of music, especially to the British public. I'm not saying that the vast majority people can name it or its composer (its more famous as the Hovis theme tune), but far more people who know it was Dvorak than would know other UC questions, it isn't specific, degree-level knowledge at all.

In contrast, there was a question about the Goldbach conjecture. No-one who doesn't have the knowledge of atleast a second year maths student is going to be able to come close to being able to name the Goldbach conjecture.

My general knowledge is good enough to recognise what is an easy question and what is esoteric knowledge, and I'm telling you, all the other subjects except like the "name this country on a map" questions require a much deeper knowledge of your subject than the music rounds.

I don't think the classical music questions are as obvious as you think. I do think the maths questions are particularly advanced, but I find for example the art questions very broad and rarely get them wrong, but only because I have had an interest in painting since childhood like you and your classical music. I have never gotten a single question right in a straight up classical music round, it's a very difficult thing to retain if you're not genuinely interested - as you obviously are. Everyone I watch it with groans when the classical music question comes up, we always hope it'll be something about radiohead or television theme tunes lol.

Z-Magic
Feb 19, 2011

They talk about the people and the proletariat, I talk about the suckers and the mugs - it's the same thing. They have their five-year plans, so have I.
Once they had a 'guess the film' round with stills from Kubrick films. It was the only time I got all the questions correct :smith:

N3RDSTER
Mar 27, 2010
The only time I've aced a whole section (starter and bonuses) was a picture round about naming assault rifles. My family gave me uneasy looks, but they were all really common guns in video games :smith:.

N3RDSTER fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Aug 22, 2011

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Hoops posted:

I mean, I studied maths and music at uni, and I reckon I would get less than 2/3rds of the maths questions on my best day

Really? Given that I remember the maths questions being of the order of "What it's 2 cubed multiplied by 2 squared" then I question your department.

JingleBells
Jan 7, 2007

Oh what fun it is to see the Harriers win away!

Cerv posted:

My favourite part of Uni Challenge is Paxman's barely disguised disgust on the occasions the music round dares dip into the last 100 years.

I love how Paxman shows disdain if you don't know which two characters from a Shakespeare play are referenced in a work by some obscure Czech musician, but thinks you're a modern day genius if you know what HTTP stands for

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Angelos dicking about with the Casio keyboard absolutely ended me. So many memories.

Dictionary! Excellent!

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Really? Given that I remember the maths questions being of the order of "What it's 2 cubed multiplied by 2 squared" then I question your department.
Was it? I turned it on after it started, think the score was like 45-65 but the mathsy bonus questions I saw were about theorems and conjecture, and one was about diophantine polynomials. I definitely didn't see anything with straight-up arithmetic.

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I love how Paxman shows disdain if you don't know which two characters from a Shakespeare play are referenced in a work by some obscure Czech musician, but thinks you're a modern day genius if you know what HTTP stands for
That's posh oxbridge liberal arts students for you, Stephen Fry is the same. Hugely intelligent guys but all get into media and politics and think anything with equations is basically witchcraft.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

sebzilla posted:

Angelos dicking about with the Casio keyboard absolutely ended me. So many memories.

Dictionary! Excellent!

That was my facebook status haha. DJ DJ, DICTIONARY!
Also Bob asking about being a fast bowler slayed me hahaha.

HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

N3RDSTER posted:

The only time I've aced a whole section (starter and bonuses) was a picture round about naming assault rifles. My family gave me uneasy looks, but they were all really common guns in video games :smith:.

That question about M16 vs. M4 was harsh, but the differences are recognisable if you know what you're looking for. SCAR was an interesting one and FAMAS was obvious as soon as he said "A French..."

I liked the "Political Parties" picture round in this one. But how the hell are people supposed to know the difference between Israeli political parties like Likud and Kadima?!



ChuckDHead
Dec 18, 2006

If anyone likes The Victorian Farm and shows of that ilk, The Victorian Pharmacy is on BBC2 right now. We've just seen lead nipple-guards for breastfeeding and some baby product involving opium. And yes, the ginger woman with the nose is back.

It's quite possibly a miracle that the British public survived the Victorian age.

Warrahooyaargh
Sep 15, 2007
Oh the mundanity

eating only apples posted:

What happened with their brother? I don't follow them because they're unbearably annoying, but sometimes I go on their page and giggle at the silliness of it all.

Their brother (Kevin) was initially put in charge of their Twitter account while they were in hiding prior to going into the house. He took exception to something that was written in the press (either the statement the twins are virgins or a suggestion of incest) and went off on a Twitter rant in which he kept threatening the press and claiming to know defamation law better than the papers (he's a law student). He actually posted a copy of the Irish law on defamation at one point. Cue fans contacting management to ask if this was really a good idea, and Jedward's mum taking over.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Hoops posted:

My knowledge of maths is a lot stronger than my knowledge of classical music, which means I can say with confidence the maths questions are much, much more specialist than the musical ones. That's why I brought it up. You would have to be a dedicated, above-average maths student to get most of the maths questions but I don't know a single music student who wouldn't be able to get nearly all the UC questions.

Specific examples: Tonight there was the "New World Largo" by Dvorak. That's a hugely famous piece of music, especially to the British public. I'm not saying that the vast majority people can name it or its composer (its way more famous as the Hovis theme tune), but far more people would know it was Dvorak than would know other UC questions, it isn't specific, degree-level knowledge at all.
you may well be right actually, I just watched this episode and while I didn't know the Dvorak piece, the next three questions were just "identify the composers of these pieces" and I got 2 out of 3. Also got 3 out of 3 on film composers. I know a little about classical but not a lot, it's certainly no specialist subject for me or anything. In the rest of the show I got a right answer very occasionally and in the maths bit I literally couldn't even begin to guess

Paperhouse fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Aug 23, 2011

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Hoops posted:

Was it? I turned it on after it started, think the score was like 45-65 but the mathsy bonus questions I saw were about theorems and conjecture, and one was about diophantine polynomials. I definitely didn't see anything with straight-up arithmetic.

This is from a while back, I don't have a TV any more.

tentish klown
Apr 3, 2011

Paperhouse posted:

you may well be right actually, I just watched this episode and while I didn't know the Dvorak piece, the next three questions were just "identify the composers of these pieces" and I got 2 out of 3. Also got 3 out of 3 on film composers. I know a little about classical but not a lot, it's certainly no specialist subject for me or anything. In the rest of the show I got a right answer very occasionally and in the maths bit I literally couldn't even begin to guess

Last series there was a question that started 'In maths, a perfect number is...' and some girl buzzed in. She realised she hadn't actually heard the question part of the question, and looked a bit worried. Then said '6', which is of course the first perfect number - something that most of my class knew when doing a level maths. To anyone that doesn't know maths that would seem an astounding guess. To anyone with a vague interest, it's pretty basic knowledge.

Metrication
Dec 12, 2010

Raskin had one problem: Jobs regarded him as an insufferable theorist or, to use Jobs's own more precise terminology, "a shithead who sucks".
RIP The Hour :smith:

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

Metrication posted:

RIP The Hour :smith:

Cracking programme. I saw it coming but still, wow.

I wish live TV was that exciting in real life :(

silly
Jul 15, 2004

"I saw it get by the mound, and I saw Superman at second base."
What a finale to The Hour. Polar opposite to what happened with The Killing earlier this year. I hope BBC gives it a second series.

Cheese Bridge Area
Jan 27, 2008
So I guess I'm one of the few people willing to admit watching and enjoying big brother?
Darren Lyons body is like a ninja turtle


Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
There's a gutter/sewer joke in there somewhere.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Hold on while I try to remember who Darren Lyons is. Isn't he that annoying podgy papraz-

Bioalchemist posted:



:stare:

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
He looks like a church fete giant wrestler suit.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

What a loving arsehole.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."
Plastic surgery abs are hilarious.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
Something about his face in profile makes him look like the sports guy from Anchorman.

"Whamey!"

Edit: I want to be clear I am in no way suggesting that that is the funniest thing about that picture.

BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Aug 25, 2011

Warrahooyaargh
Sep 15, 2007
Oh the mundanity
One of the other housemates asked him how he got those abs, and he claimed it was "body contouring" and they'd just sucked out the fat to show off his natural abs.

He's deformed.

No. 9
Feb 8, 2005

by R. Guyovich
I hope Bobby gets dropped. He sounds kind of reasonable at first with his complaints, but takes it too far and it comes off really arrogant.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."
I hope you all stop watching big brother. What the gently caress is the matter with you all.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

My friend told me about Jedward spilling some coleslaw by the fridge then giving someone a wedgie. Otherwise I'm pretty okay with not watching it.

I thought muscle went underneath fat, especially in the stomach. Maybe he is inside-out.

Padje
Sep 10, 2003

I don't much care for the attitude of filthy money-lenders
The fake abs they've sewn in actually increase his girth, hilariously. The more he eats, the fatter he'll get, and the further out they're going to spread. The line cutting through his navel is his own San Andreas Fault. It's just a matter of time before each ab becomes a completely separate island on his torso.

I've watched a bit of this Big Brother and it's a mess. Entertaining things, like Paddy wrestling Jedward, are caught in the background of a tedious conversation between Tara and Mrs Hasselhoff, almost like they've only got half the manpower of the Channel 4 run product. When one of the Jedwards wedgied Amy, they didn't show it, even though they'd obviously filmed it. Took a while to understand Darryn wasn't just freaking out about coleslaw. Later Amy asked if she herself had over-reacted, but while we didn't see the actual incident, for probably bum-based reasons, neither did we see her verbal reaction. Des-Group (or whatever it's called) must have a deal with it's better interests (Amy, Kerry, anyone else that appears in OK magazine) not to show them in anything but a flattering light, or one at least that ties into their PR personas (Amy: bubbly, a bit dumb. Kerry: nice, a bit sad, a bit manic, addictions)

Bobby is an idiot. If you want to bad mouth the contestants to the guys at home either do it so the victim is privy to it, or wait for Big Brother to press you on it in the diary room. Just talking to a stationed camera makes you look a right oval office. Although, with it being vote-to-save, it will probably help him.

BobFossil
Jun 17, 2005

Note to self: I hate whites.

Bioalchemist posted:

So I guess I'm one of the few people willing to admit watching and enjoying big brother?
Darren Lyons body is like a ninja turtle


or a pregnant cat.

Z-Magic
Feb 19, 2011

They talk about the people and the proletariat, I talk about the suckers and the mugs - it's the same thing. They have their five-year plans, so have I.
He wants to have his cake and eat it too. And that must have been one large cake judging by the size of him.

Metrication
Dec 12, 2010

Raskin had one problem: Jobs regarded him as an insufferable theorist or, to use Jobs's own more precise terminology, "a shithead who sucks".
I hope if there's another series of The Hour, that it won't constantly be referred to 'the UK's version of Mad Men' like this one. Because they are literally nothing alike.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Metrication posted:

I hope if there's another series of The Hour, that it won't constantly be referred to 'the UK's version of Mad Men' like this one. Because they are literally nothing alike.

What are you talking about? Everyone smokes indoors.

No. 9
Feb 8, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Well, Bobby's a total dick after watching this episode. I'm from the US and I don't really like regular Big Brother UK or US, but the last celebrity one hooked me. I don't know most of these people save from Jedward, Tara Reid, and the girl from Atomic Kitten. This one isn't as good as the last celebrity season which I think was the best one out of all of them.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
Remember how Big Brother had the best ratings ever (for a non film or sport event on Channel 5)? Well they don't any more.

Broadcast posted:

Celebrity Big Brother ratings tumble

SUNDAY: Celebrity Big Brother’s first weekend on Channel 5 drew to a close with a series low audience of under 2.2m - a 58% drop on its debut.

The reality show launched with C5’s third biggest audience in its 14-year history on Thursday, but has seen its ratings gradually decline over the course of the past three days.

It debuted with 5.16m (22.13%), but this dropped to 3.21m (14.75%) on Friday, while Saturday’s first non-live edition of the series was watched by 2.74m (12.1%).

The downward trend continued on Sunday as the Endemol-produced format drew an average audience of 2.15m (11.8%) over the 10pm hour, bringing it precariously close to the 2m viewer mark that C5 owner Richard Desmond doesn’t want the show to reach.

Despite the decline, it remained resolutely above C5’s slot average of 1.16m (6.08%) viewers for the year to date, according to overnight Barb figures supplied by Attentional.

C5 can also take heart from the fact that when the show was on Channel 4 last year, audience figures tailed off in a similar way. The show launched with 5.9m (20.97%) in January, but settled down to around half this audience at a time when television viewing is usually higher than in the summer.

Sunday’s Celebrity Big Brother was preceded by Hollywood blockbuster 10,000 BC, which clawed in a crowd of 1.22m (5.3%) from 7.55pm to 10pm.

Although it's still doing better than normal for Channel 5.

Fazana
Mar 5, 2011

Dancing Elephant
Instructor

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

Cracking programme. I saw it coming but still, wow.

I wish live TV was that exciting in real life :(

I thought I saw it coming but the whole reason Clarence had Freddie in his scheme I didn't see coming, that was a fantastic twist to the finish. Been a decent last few months for BBC drama that I've watched: The Hour, more Luther and The Shadow Line being enjoyable.

If you have any interest in Formula 1 at all, I urge you to watch "Grand Prix: The Killer Years" before it disappears on the 3rd September http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00z8v18/Grand_Prix_The_Killer_Years/ I was vaguely aware of things being pretty bad in those years but to actually see footage of what racing was like back then and the number of people who were killed, usually with the race carrying on whilst the body was being dragged away, is astonishing. Examples of the stupidity by the designers include a newly designed car with a large amount of magnesium in its chassis being entered into a race and of course catching fire and burning it's driver to death in its very first race. How did they know the then best racer and multiple time world champion in the world had crashed in a race in Germany? He didn't come round at the end of a lap... When they went looking for him they found his car wrapped around a tree where he had gone off (barriers? crazy loving talk!)and the chap himself dead from being thrown from his car and hitting a tree 15 feet in the air (marks on the tree showed where he had hit) killing him instantly. Anyways, watch and be amazed at the casual disregard for life.

Fazana fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Aug 26, 2011

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Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
Brooker has a new comedy-drama in the works; Yay! It's going to be on Sky1. :sound of a deflating balloon:

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