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dik-dik posted:I'm probably going to get my SPA card revoked for saying this but I think a lot of people just get mad whenever they perceive someone else to be spending a lot more money or caring a lot more about something than them. I get a similar reaction when people find out how much I spent on a pair of shoes or a watch or when I use a fountain pen (even if it's one that cost $3). When you live in a culture where people primarily define themselves by what they purchase, a lot of people get their egos bruised when they perceive that you've bought something better than them.
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If your posting in the coffee/shoe/"insert hobby here" you have first world problems so be happy.
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porktree posted:Ha, how does it feel to be so wrong on the internet. Best edict I've read today. Aaaa++++ I don't think I'm wrong. It's just my opinion that it's not worth having an espresso machine at home. But honestly the thing I hate most is that it takes up a huge amount of space. My setup isn't even that crazy. It's a simple Baratza Preciso and Gaggia Classic with no mods. There's also a huge loving mess that I have to cleanup and I hate that. People with large kitchens might not mind though. If Nespresso ever makes an espresso machine that doesn't taste like crap I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Also, I think cold brew sucks. Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Nov 9, 2015 02:15
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Mu Zeta posted:I don't think I'm wrong. It's just my opinion that it's not worth having an espresso machine at home. But honestly the thing I hate most is that it takes up a huge amount of space. My setup isn't even that crazy. It's a simple Baratza Preciso and Gaggia Classic with no mods. There's also a huge loving mess that I have to cleanup and I hate that. People with large kitchens might not mind though. If Nespresso ever makes an espresso machine that doesn't taste like crap I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Yeah, I can see people not wanting to use up the space in an apartment or something. My last house had a space with a "desk" area that was largely unused counter space so my machine and grinder went in that area. In my new house, our kitchen is much bigger and there was a niche that I specifically built a beer and coffee bar out of. So one wall of our kitchen is a kegerator and my espresso setup. I definitely get my money's worth out of mine, but for me, most of my coffee gear is more justifiable by ease of getting good coffee than it is on cost, though I can easily justify the cost. The two good coffee shops in my city are both 30 minutes away and the one I like better has about $4 in tolls on the drive. If you include gas and tolls driving there to get a latte would cost me over $10. I probably use mine 3-4x per week and then do pourover/vacpot/areopress the rest of the time.
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There are coffee shops out the rear end in this city so that might be part of the reason. e: cold brew is terrible Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Nov 9, 2015 02:33
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Mu Zeta posted:There are coffee shops out the rear end in this city so that might be part of the reason. Yeah, that would definitely lower my want for one, but we only have two worth going to in Orlando and they're both less than 2 years old. I bought my first machine 7 years ago. Before two years ago there were a few shops that people recommended but I was entirely underwhelmed by all of them.
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Nov 9, 2015 03:46
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Mu Zeta posted:Also, I think cold brew sucks.  I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy this double I pulled and ponder putting my Sylvia and Rocky and Behmore on craigslist now that I know it's not worth it. 
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Nov 9, 2015 04:17
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So is there much difference between a Clever Coffee Dripper and a v60 in terms of finished product? Besides generic "coffee" at the end I mean Is it one you control water flow and what have you, other one you find the happy temperature and time with the beans?
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Tiny Chalupa posted:So is there much difference between a Clever Coffee Dripper and a v60 in terms of finished product? Outside of the fact that they're both filtered coffees, they are completely different brewing methods. The Clever Coffee Dripper is more akin to french press in terms of method than it is to a drip brewer. It's just being filtered more because of the filter media being a finer paper compared to the mesh screen of a french press. It's an immersion brewer meaning that the water is in contact with the coffee the entire time of the brewing process. The V60 is a drip brewer so it's just a more controllable/manual version of a drip machine. The water goes right through the coffee and the speed is only controlled by your grind. Really their only similarities are filter type and they both sit on top of your vessel. Both can make very good coffee, it's just a matter of preference really. I tend to prefer the V60, but it takes more work to get it right.
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Nov 9, 2015 07:43
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rockcity posted:Outside of the fact that they're both filtered coffees, they are completely different brewing methods. The Clever Coffee Dripper is more akin to french press in terms of method than it is to a drip brewer. It's just being filtered more because of the filter media being a finer paper compared to the mesh screen of a french press. It's an immersion brewer meaning that the water is in contact with the coffee the entire time of the brewing process. The V60 is a drip brewer so it's just a more controllable/manual version of a drip machine. The water goes right through the coffee and the speed is only controlled by your grind. Really their only similarities are filter type and they both sit on top of your vessel. And I have a clever coffee dripper. It is like a French press, just one you sit on your mug. You really need a good control over the water temp, and need to have a good grinder for your coffee to get the absolute best you can out of it. You can still make a good cup without either, though!
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Nov 9, 2015 11:41
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I'm interested in trying some home pulled/self taught espresso. Everyone I know with a home machine either has a super auto or is/was a serious professional. Honest curiosity about what it tastes like and what sort of goals were in mind behind it.
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Nov 9, 2015 12:12
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CCD has worked out perfect for me when I want to make a cup before work. It takes ~6 minutes total, and 4 minutes are spent waiting for the coffee to brew. Cold brew is nice because I make my girlfriend a batch of whatever flavored beans she wants to try and it makes her happy for 5-6 days with minimal effort on my side.
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Nov 9, 2015 21:55
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The CCD and other immersion brewers with stoppers have become my go to. I've completely stopped using a french press because of them. I'm probably at 70/30 CCD to pour over at this point. I really wish they made a larger capacity Aeropress. If they made one that held around 400 grams of water, I'd probably ditch all the other methods.
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Nov 10, 2015 16:47
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If my cup holds 230 grams of liquid, how many grams of Yirgacheffe should I be using in an Aeropress? Do you brew Yirgacheffe different than 3 minutes?
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Nov 10, 2015 19:21
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I have two, roughly five year old CCDs from before the whole BPA scare and when they redesigned them. Do we know if the old ones contained BPA? I'm not one to usually worry about those things, but I figure that pouring boiling hot water into a plastic vessel and letting it sit for four minutes, every day, is probably the worst case scenario for exposure to chemicals in plastics. Also, what are folks's thoughts on grind for CCDs? In my experience you can use any grind since you can brew longer if needed (unlike drip) and it's also paper filtered (unlike press). I tend to use the same coarse grind as I use for press, mostly so I don't have to change it, but it also ensures that the CCD drains quickly to avoid brewing too long.
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Nov 11, 2015 02:52
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My grid is basically medium (20 on a maestro plus), but I get a pretty wide variety based on the beans.
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Nov 11, 2015 04:49
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Anyone used on of these? It looks nice as a Chemed alternative for half the price: Hario VDD-02B V60 Drip Decanter http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00755F9Z4/
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Nov 12, 2015 05:23
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It's just a V60.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Anyone used on of these? It looks nice as a Chemed alternative for half the price: I have one. Yea it's just a v60. I like using it though, I like that it's an all in one unit, looks cool too. The pour spout sucks compared to a Chemex but not a deal breaker.
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Mu Zeta posted:It's just a V60. That's why I decided against it. I wanted something to make larger batches of coffee need be and realized this was basically the same as my V60 that I could just put over something larger for free. I did end up getting a Chemex anyway, but that was more because I wanted to really compare the difference.
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The only difference with the Chemex is in the filters. You can just buy Chemex filters and use it on your V60. It tastes a lot like paper.
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Mu Zeta posted:The only difference with the Chemex is in the filters. You can just buy Chemex filters and use it on your V60. Yeah, I'd agree. I bought the chemex a while back already. I really only use the chemex occasionally, mostly if I have multiple people over. I rinse the heck out of that filter.
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I'm still pretty new to quality coffee so maybe I'm missing something - what is the appeal of the super heavy Chemex filters? Wouldn't you want just enough filter to keep mud out of your cup? Admittedly I've never had a cup of Chemex brewed coffee but I would assume the heavy filter would remove more volatiles and delicate flavors than a standard filter.
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internet celebrity posted:I'm still pretty new to quality coffee so maybe I'm missing something - what is the appeal of the super heavy Chemex filters? Wouldn't you want just enough filter to keep mud out of your cup? Admittedly I've never had a cup of Chemex brewed coffee but I would assume the heavy filter would remove more volatiles and delicate flavors than a standard filter. As far as I know, it's more that lighter filters will fall through the hole in the chemex whereas the heavier filters support themselves.
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I'm pulling the trigger tomorrow on ordering a grinder to go with my Crossland coffee cc1 espresso machine and just wanting confirmation I'm not getting a crappy grinder where for 20 bucks more x would be better I'm looking at a Baratza Preciso refurb Assuming this is better then Capresso Infinity and other models in that range? I would hope so with the price difference Would I be better off with a rocky grinder? Thanks for any responses Edit reviews seem a touch all over for that model hence why I'm asking here for opinions
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I bought a Rancillo almost exactly a year ago and have used it at least once nearly every day since. It has always performed as expected with my french press as well as the rogues gallery of CCD, Aeropress, and pour-over poo poo that I keep buying and not using. The feed bowl on the Rocky does have some nooks where a bean or two can get trapped and force you to fish them out or to become a bigger person and not let such trivialities phase you. I opted for the former and tried modifying the bowl to prevent this, but eventually adopted a multi-step method to clear every last bean and jostle out as much hung-up ground coffee as I can with every use. This takes an extra twenty seconds or so, and suspect most grinders will have similar issues to some degree.
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I have a question about roasting set up recommendations. I got into it a few years ago and I'm having a blast with my modified whirly pop and hot plate set up and I don't need anything fancier. My mom is retiring soon though, and I'd like to give her a roasting set up for her to mess with but I she isn't the type to take a power drill to a popcorn popper or tinker endlessly to figure out what temperature the drat thing is at when the thermometer is woefully but consistently inaccurate. I also can't envision her on her porch with a heat gun and a whisk. Is there a decent <$100 electric set up out there anyone has had good luck with? Bonus points would go to ease of use and cleanliness but I know the latter is probably impossible regardless of what you do. It would be used for smaller roasts for the most part.
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One of those air popcorn poppers you can get at a thrift store? Haven't used one myself but people seem to like them.
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Ohthehugemanatee posted:I have a question about roasting set up recommendations. I got into it a few years ago and I'm having a blast with my modified whirly pop and hot plate set up and I don't need anything fancier. My mom is retiring soon though, and I'd like to give her a roasting set up for her to mess with but I she isn't the type to take a power drill to a popcorn popper or tinker endlessly to figure out what temperature the drat thing is at when the thermometer is woefully but consistently inaccurate. I also can't envision her on her porch with a heat gun and a whisk. The Freshroast is probably the closest to thay budget but it's still over it. Nothing really exists in the budget that isn't a pretty manual process.
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dhrusis posted:
I had my first gesha over the weekend at La Colombe (the Esmeralda Geisha) and loved it. (http://www.lacolombe.com/collections/lighter/products/panama-esmeralda-boquete) It's flavorful, light and unique. My partner, who doesn't drink much coffee, said it reminded him of tea, which I can see with the profile. We could really taste the orange and lemongrass. I don't know why there's a steep price difference between the Esmeralda and their other Geishas, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate the knowledge. *EDIT: it's because the Jaramillo is the first "geisha" variety from that farm and the Esmeralda must be the red headed stepchild. It still doesn't beat my absolute favorite of all time - Juan Peņa Imperial Reserve from La Papaya (roasted by Spyhouse) polarbear_terrorist fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Just picked up http://waterforcoffeebook.com, which is a great read about how different sources of water can alter the last of your coffee.
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rockcity posted:The Freshroast is probably the closest to thay budget but it's still over it. Nothing really exists in the budget that isn't a pretty manual process. Thanks, it looks like they have options that are pretty close to my price range. I'll look into them a bit more.
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Is it safe to put improperly ground coffee (too coarse) through a burr grinder to achieve the correct size?
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I don't think anyone would recommend regrinding coffee, but if you try a small batch for a cup or so and find you're okay with the result, who's gonna give a gently caress. You might end up with some compromised quality and excess dust, and maybe not something suitable for espresso or french press (which doesn't sound like an issue) but fine for a pour over or drip.
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Obligatory Toast posted:I don't think anyone would recommend regrinding coffee, but if you try a small batch for a cup or so and find you're okay with the result, who's gonna give a gently caress. You might end up with some compromised quality and excess dust, and maybe not something suitable for espresso or french press (which doesn't sound like an issue) but fine for a pour over or drip. I was mostly concerned with the grinder. I read some stuff online that it can damage it.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I was mostly concerned with the grinder. I read some stuff online that it can damage it. I think it's just going to clog the burrs, so as long as you can get in and clean them afterwords it may not be such an issue. I can't imagine you'd get very good results though,
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I see no reason putting course ground beans into a burr grinder would harm or clog it; the beans get ground in stages as they travel towards the bottom of the burrs so most of the process is reducing coarse grounds down to fine ones anyway. You should end up with the same quality of grind as if you started with whole beans.
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What's the next step up from the behmor these days?
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Flattened Spoon posted:One of those air popcorn poppers you can get at a thrift store? Haven't used one myself but people seem to like them. I've actually started using one of these after going on a coffee roasting course. It's not the most accurate, and I can't cool the beans quickly like you can with an industrial roaster. But if you can understand how long it'll take you to cool down you can predict how much extra roasting will go on while you're trying to cool the beans down.   I'm getting there, the first one was horrendous, the second one I took off too early. I want it for a 4ish roast. So just starting to fleck oil. So i try to take it off just after the second crack, and then try and cool it into the 4. Ten quid for 1kilo of green beans. I'm going to try speaking to a friend of mine who's a commercial roaster and see if I can buy beans from him for the price that he paid. I can't pay for 60 kilos of beans at a time. They do keep for a year, but I can't use that many beans in a year. Unless any of you want to buy Goon Roasted beans. Roast level 3-5.
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Google Butt posted:What's the next step up from the behmor these days? Hottop?
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