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Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Runcible Cat posted:

That's awesome.

In the same vein, this classic cover for 1984:



It's been a while since I read 1984, but I don't remember Oceania's "Sun's Out, Guns Out" policy

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Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle

Antivehicular posted:

It's been a while since I read 1984, but I don't remember Oceania's "Sun's Out, Guns Out" policy

Although the narrative focused on Airstrip One (formerly Britain), Oceania also included Australia

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

Phaiston have long avoided the tightly competetive defence sector, but the IRDA Act 2052 has given us the freedom we need to bring out something really special.

https://team-robostar.itch.io/robostar


Nap Ghost

Antivehicular posted:

It's been a while since I read 1984, but I don't remember Oceania's "Sun's Out, Guns Out" policy

I don't recall Oceania's crack league of leather daddy secret police, but here we are I guess

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Thot Police.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Whybird posted:

I don't recall Oceania's crack league of leather daddy secret police, but here we are I guess
Well, the anti-sex league had to exist for a reason, meaning someone was getting everyone all horned up...

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

uwu citizen, what's this? I notice you have a bulge.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
Big Brother what are we going to do on the bed?

HelleSpud
Apr 1, 2010
He likes to watch

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Ichabod Sexbeast posted:

+1 Sword of Vogueing

You just know he's making voom voom lightsaber noises.

Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle

Runcible Cat posted:

You just know he's making voom voom lightsaber noises.

Well, wouldn't you?

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
If you look at e.g. Abebooks for "1984", you'll see just how amazingly many covers that paperback has had. Most of them terrible. That's good compared to most.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
I recently read The Killing Star by Charles Pellegrino & George Zebrowski. Pretty unimpressive book despite the rather ambitious concept (first contact with aliens is them immediately destroying >99% of humanity and then hunting down the survivors). Written in 1995, which puts it in the awkward zone where things often feel dated but not enough to be charming. They also occasionally refer to real people which usually hasn't aged well; for some reason in the book's history, Robert Ballard discovered the Titanic - true - but became a 'Bluepeace' extremist and in 2010 destroyed the wreck with a load of depth charges - not true.

The book generally wasn't that subtle. I might have missed out on some of the themes however because they were made explicit in a Usenet conversation between fictional characters and real people (SF authors like Asimov and Gregory Benford, as well as SETI astronomer Jill Tarter) THAT WAS PRESENTED ENTIRELY IN UPPERCASE AND CONTINUED FOR NEARLY EIGHTEEN PAGES WITH A FONT THAT DIDN'T FEEL DESIGNED TO BE READ THAT WAY. WHAT ON EARTH WERE THE AUTHORS THINKING? MY EYES SLID OFF THE PARAGRAPHS EVERY TIME I TRIED TO READ WHAT WAS ALREADY A FAIRLY DRY SEGMENT OF THE NOVEL.

Bonus that I only discovered as I was writing this: Charles' wikipedia page mostly consists of other people saying how often he makes things up in his non-fiction books.

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?

A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:

The latter is irritating if you're deeply invested in the character/series but is otherwise pretty funny. I always think of the Mega Man box art depicting a swollen, confused larper with a pistol
The best thing about American Box Art Mega Man is that Capcom leaned into it and made him a playable character in Street Fighter X Tekken for some reason.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

uvar posted:

I recently read The Killing Star by Charles Pellegrino & George Zebrowski. Pretty unimpressive book despite the rather ambitious concept (first contact with aliens is them immediately destroying >99% of humanity and then hunting down the survivors).

Interesting. I read it years ago, enjoyed it but it is not a good book. It's that classic SF where the plot exists to hang together a bunch of vignettes, infodumps and cool ideas the author had, without much characterisation or coherent story. And the cool ideas are cool (like aliens immediately wiping humanity out, pretty much successfully) but it reads like an assembly of parts. Most of Pellegrino's books are like that.

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Bonus that I only discovered as I was writing this: Charles' wikipedia page mostly consists of other people saying how often he makes things up in his non-fiction books.

And that's kind of a relief. The author biography is daunting, where Pelligrino comes across as Indiana Jones crossed with Richard Feynman. He evens appears briefly in this book in a cameo, I think, and gives the impression that he knows everything about everything.

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013

Antivehicular posted:

It's been a while since I read 1984, but I don't remember Oceania's "Sun's Out, Guns Out" policy

Oceania has always had a 'Sun's Out, Guns Out' policy.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
Just dropping a link to Good Show, Sir for people who don’t already know it. If you want to see hundreds of hideous paperback covers, feast your eyes:
http://www.goodshowsir.co.uk/

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Lemniscate Blue posted:

That's not to say that Darrell Sweet's Wheel of Time cover art was, y'know, good or accurate to the books in any other respects either.

Speaking of Darrel Sweet, they got him to illustrate covers for Jordan's Fallon trilogy after WoT got popular



which, uh were more aptly represented by their original cover:



That's one way to trick me into reading revolutionary war set romance novel

GoodyTwoShoes
Oct 26, 2013
I was going to complain about Operation Exile, by E. Hoffman Price, published in 1986, which is full of :biotruth: and the bad guys are the socialists and the Marxists and civil rights and special education, for some reason. . . then I flipped to the back for the author's bio and HOLY CARP he was born in 1898 and fought in WW1. So he's merely an outdated Old Fogey, and not prescient about current buzzwords. It was a standard world-building technique of "take current obnoxious trends to their extreme". I still won't be letting any chuds borrow my copy; they might get ideas.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





I actually managed to track down a copy with that cover.

Serephina posted:

The second option, clearly! Gave us such classics as Discworld's Josh Kirby covers, and this.

Famously Kirby misunderstood a joke in the books. Two Flowers is a character in the books that wear glasses, so he was called four-eyes. On the cover of the books he's in Kirby depicted him as having literally four eyes:

Alhazred has a new favorite as of 22:41 on Jul 24, 2021

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

I don't remember Pratchett's descriptions of Twoflower off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure he was supposed to be wearing modern tourist clothes (loud floral shirt), not whatever that clown outfit is. I guess Kirby didn't get that joke either?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Antivehicular posted:

I don't remember Pratchett's descriptions of Twoflower off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure he was supposed to be wearing modern tourist clothes (loud floral shirt), not whatever that clown outfit is. I guess Kirby didn't get that joke either?

Hard to say whether it was 'didn't get the joke' or 'stuck to a consistent visual aesthetic'. Clothes on the Kirby Discworld covers are consistently quite similar to that outfit - vaguely melty with lots of jewels and pointy bits.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice

nonathlon posted:

Interesting. I read it years ago, enjoyed it but it is not a good book. It's that classic SF where the plot exists to hang together a bunch of vignettes, infodumps and cool ideas the author had, without much characterisation or coherent story. And the cool ideas are cool but it reads like an assembly of parts.
You nailed it - exactly how I felt most of the time. It wasn't unpleasant to read (apart from the uppercase segment) but it wasn't nearly as interesting as the book I imagined from the plot summary.

I don't recall an author cameo but considering how often the Titanic got levered in to the story I'm sure he popped up somewhere.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...
That might not be the book with the cameo: I recollect there's a scientific conference and an unnamed figure delivers a finding or idea, amidst lots of talk from named real world figures. Perhaps in the epilogue, he writes HAHA THAT WAS ME and says what actual meeting it was based on. Although, from his Wikipedia entry, I wonder how much it can be trusted.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

FreudianSlippers posted:

War of the Worlds is literally "What if an outside force would do to us what we did to the colonies?"
I know this is from awhile ago, but I'm going through the thread and I wanted to post this excellent essay about historical invasion stories, how they led to the original War of the Worlds, then having a segue on how modern Hollywood invasion narratives changed from before and after 9/11 with a comparison between Indipendence Day and the remake of War of the Worlds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KioF1sTQFtE

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

Phaiston have long avoided the tightly competetive defence sector, but the IRDA Act 2052 has given us the freedom we need to bring out something really special.

https://team-robostar.itch.io/robostar


Nap Ghost

Antivehicular posted:

I don't remember Pratchett's descriptions of Twoflower off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure he was supposed to be wearing modern tourist clothes (loud floral shirt), not whatever that clown outfit is. I guess Kirby didn't get that joke either?

And then Paul Kirby went and drew this:


Discworld artists have not been kind to Twoflower.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Sean Astin was a really cute Twoflower in the live action Colour of Magic TV adaption. :3:

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

U.T. Raptor posted:

The best thing about American Box Art Mega Man is that Capcom leaned into it and made him a playable character in Street Fighter X Tekken for some reason.

A couple of the devs thought it would be funny if he was in the game, but then Capcom cancelled basically everything else related to MegaMan before launch so people thought it was just a mean joke. Still the best part of that game though.

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013

Hi thread.

So like a lot of folk I'm going through a lot right now, but what really peps me up and keeps me keeping on is reading about terrible fiction drama. I've smashed through the John Ringo Let's Read, I've watched the Lindsay Ellis Omegaverse videos. I need more. Any recommendations would be hugely valued.

Thanks thread.

Thread.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


IshmaelZarkov posted:

Hi thread.

So like a lot of folk I'm going through a lot right now, but what really peps me up and keeps me keeping on is reading about terrible fiction drama. I've smashed through the John Ringo Let's Read, I've watched the Lindsay Ellis Omegaverse videos. I need more. Any recommendations would be hugely valued.

Thanks thread.

Thread.

Look up the Handbook For Mortals thread from TBB about three years ago, it is a FASCINATING trainwreck.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

IshmaelZarkov posted:

Hi thread.

So like a lot of folk I'm going through a lot right now, but what really peps me up and keeps me keeping on is reading about terrible fiction drama. I've smashed through the John Ringo Let's Read, I've watched the Lindsay Ellis Omegaverse videos. I need more. Any recommendations would be hugely valued.

Thanks thread.

Thread.

There's a Sword of Truth Let's Read over in Trad Games. The series is perhaps not quite as outright vile as Ringo, but there's still a lot of entertaining terribleness to be found: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668845

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Jenny Nicholson had a video where she tackled terrible neocon book 'Trigger Warning' that might be worth a watch if you're in that mood.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

The Lets Read of that one novel about anthropomorphic roller coasters (Twisted, I think it was called?) was also good times.

ETA: Yes, it was called Twisted. Archived thread here.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

DARE I DO

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


HopperUK posted:

Jenny Nicholson had a video where she tackled terrible neocon book 'Trigger Warning' that might be worth a watch if you're in that mood.

She also did a video about a really bad sci fi book that was basically just Reylo fanfic with the names changed.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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HopperUK posted:

Jenny Nicholson had a video where she tackled terrible neocon book 'Trigger Warning' that might be worth a watch if you're in that mood.

Which one, I swear fifty books and movies came out "Triggered" or "Trigger Warning" or some poo poo

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Lumbermouth posted:

Look up the Handbook For Mortals thread from TBB about three years ago, it is a FASCINATING trainwreck.

That was fun. Only time so far an author has tried to fight me on Twitter.

Sisal Two-Step
May 29, 2006

mom without jaw
dad without wife


i'm taking all the Ls now, sorry
AmandatheJedi (I know I know) did a few videos on the 1D self-insert fanfic with the serial numbers filed off series known as After. She's also done videos on the 50sog series told from Christian Grey's perspective, and the official translation of 365 Days.

Another youtuber called WithCindy did a few videos on the Court of Thorns and Roses series.

I like to watch youtube videos about bad books when I'm cross stitching.

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

There's two good F Plus episodes about people on people on Goodreads and Smashwords bragging about their self-pub books and talking poo poo about people who give them bad reviews.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Brawnfire posted:

Which one, I swear fifty books and movies came out "Triggered" or "Trigger Warning" or some poo poo

By 'William W Johnstone' who I think might not actually be the author at this point, I forget, I'd have to watch the video again.

e: found link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMgMr0JcYJ4

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nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

HopperUK posted:

Jenny Nicholson had a video where she tackled terrible neocon book 'Trigger Warning' that might be worth a watch if you're in that mood.

Likewise Swell Entertainment did some YouTubes on bad books, including the "Romancing the coronavirus" series, yes, series

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