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rabidsquid posted:i dunno what league y'all are watching but the current standard lanes meta heavily incentivizes ganking and snowballing a lane and winning the game in the first ten minutes Games decided in 10 minutes but taking 30 minutes to play out is not good.
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dicks assassin posted:Games decided in 10 minutes but taking 30 minutes to play out is not good. And stronger junglers are going to rectify that how?
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iSurrender posted:The Fnatic/G2 situation will have no significant consequences for either org, sorry, but only internet babbies think the situation is comparable to Badawigate. I am also not just emptyquoting Keven.
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Sep 8, 2016 12:02
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i wonder if monte cristo believes any of the poo poo he was saying
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Here's Kevens thoughts: - he's fairly over Thornin and would much rather listen to QTpie and Scarras show now
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Libertine posted:Why can't they just buff a bunch of junglers so that jungling is actually super awesome? Because as soon as you buff a jungler it becomes an OP toplaner. e: I'm sort of being facetious here but this really is a problem. Rek'sai would be an incredibly OP toplaner if she scaled at all, etc. e:  double edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtXpQ5fn5g Sexpansion fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 17:05
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Sexpansion posted:Because as soon as you buff a jungler it becomes an OP toplaner. It's not just the champions themselves. Remember when Red smite was a lot stronger and we ended up with Cinderhulk Shyvanna top? And how that was really annoying? Or Runeglaive Ez/Ori mid? Heck, back before the jungle smite changes mid laners used to pick up the AP jungle item so they could get a heal off of a camp after pushing a wave.
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Just watched TSM vs SKT scrim. It definitely played like a scrim/high elo soloq game. TSM lost all lanes early game. Top/Mid skt had favorable matchups but Hauntzer got solo killed even though Svenskeren had just killed Duke. Bot I thought it should be even but SKT's duo pushed them most of the game had cs advantage. Mid also had cs advantage in favor for Faker he also set up ganks perfectly with azir sec right into Nid. Main problem was that in many teamfights Doubelift e forward and got chunked out of the fight immediately. I know he has a tahm kench but that was some of the worst Lucian teamfighting ive seen. Why would u ever e into a comp with Azir/Jhin. He got one shot almost every fight and few fights Biofrost managed to save him. Rest of the team played well enough. If Bjergsen or Hauntzer had a favorable lane they might have had an impact earlier.
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I'm glad to see that, nearly six years after his professional career began, Doublelift still loves to loving get in there and be immediately blown up as a consequence.
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Sep 8, 2016 18:29
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Apparently in that game it's not a Duke smurf SKT are playing with, just some random D5 ADC.
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Sep 8, 2016 18:34
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Oh ya Bjergsen does say early on "Who their sub top is?". That's kinda sad then that TSM can't even beat them without their real Toplaner. Actually Yasuo is good vs Gnar but that guy was pretty good. He got ganked super early and still poo poo on Hauntzer all game without any help.
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Sep 8, 2016 18:37
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tsm lost one scrim game, can never beat skt now
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Sep 8, 2016 18:39
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yeah, he has to test his limits and learn how much poke from a midlaner he can take in a fight while still being able to live and put out his damage. this is huge for any good ADC. for example, in the fight that ends the C9 v TSM game, Doublelift Es forward, gets massively chunked by Taliyah and Jhin, and the entire back half of the fight is based on his insane kiting after that. now that said, my favorite moment in the game was when Double+Bio ult behind SKT's top tier 2 and Double pops right out of Bio's mouth and into Last Breath.
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rabidsquid posted:tsm lost one scrim game, can never beat skt now *sheds tear, rips American flag in half*
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Libertine posted:Why can't they just buff a bunch of junglers so that jungling is actually super awesome? Because solo lanes ruin everything for junglers
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Sep 8, 2016 18:46
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I promise you I don't give a poo poo about a televised scrim lol
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*checks the notes* it appears that tsm, hold on a moment. lost a scrim?? we've got word that they recently lost a scrim. they're bad, they possess zero skills now, having recently lost. cloud 9 still on pace to win every game at worlds, but how will they handle this skt team that is also on pace to not be able to lose?
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actually i think na is in position to do better than they have in a long time, but we'll see. it's hard to predict how even some small meta changes will effect teams. it's most likely going to favor the teams that are slower to adapt but better at honing, since none of the changes this year look that significant. other than i guess some regions have played on 6.15 a lot less than others have professionally.
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Sep 8, 2016 19:21
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I just want one League of Legends World Championship Series before I die where NA doesn't let out a long, drawn out fart as soon as they get on the Worlds stage.
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I honestly think that TSM is better than a lot of teams at worlds this year. They may be right at about Samsung's level. There's no reason they can't make it out of groups.
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Vermain posted:I'm glad to see that, nearly six years after his professional career began, Doublelift still loves to loving get in there and be immediately blown up as a consequence. People's risk taking proclivities and/or risk aversion do not change over time or even over games. If you play games with a group of friends for years and years you'll notice the same patterns of behavior among them in every game they play, from MMOs, to MOBAs, to Poker. It's a personality thing, not a game-playing ability thing.
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Sep 8, 2016 19:40
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Scrim is a scrim but losing to a d4 adc as a toplaner is pretty impressive only TSM could do that good job.
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Sep 8, 2016 19:49
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Vermain posted:I just want one League of Legends World Championship Series before I die where NA doesn't let out a long, drawn out fart as soon as they get on the Worlds stage. can't wait for clg just to let one rip
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well with laning skill important now as well as mid-jungle synergy and skill i think clg is very, very unlikely to turn things around for this tournament.
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Sep 8, 2016 19:56
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Whichever group gets CLG as 2ndpool team is going to be so lucky. I think even Splyce will do better than them because their laning phase isn't as bad as CLG even though they are kinda similar teams.
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rabidsquid posted:well with laning skill important now as well as mid-jungle synergy and skill i think clg is very, very unlikely to turn things around for this tournament. If CLG gets out of groups I will change my avatar to an amazing CLG-related custom title that also talks about how dumb I am.
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Ulio posted:Scrim is a scrim but losing to a d4 adc as a toplaner is pretty impressive only TSM could do that good job. i can't believe a gnar lost to 6.17 yasuo
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losing to a d4 top laner isn't that impressive. legitimately how many teams in league history would have a 100% win rate against SKT + a d4.
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tsm rabidsquid
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reginald pays me to discredit thorin and montecristo
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rabidsquid posted:well with laning skill important now as well as mid-jungle synergy and skill i think clg is very, very unlikely to turn things around for this tournament. Yeah. I think part of what made CLG look better earlier in the year was good use of lane swaps and rotations to avoid straight up matchups. In the current meta they can't do as much to make up for just having weak laners.
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I'm trying to think of who the other weakest pool 2 team is, maybe H2K? I'd like to see a group with the two weakest possible 2 seeds so that an IWC team can make it the round of 8. That's my dream every year.
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Libertine posted:I'm trying to think of who the other weakest pool 2 team is, maybe H2K? oh other weakest. Yeah either H2K or AHQ. I'm leaning to H2K but it could be either.
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I think either wildcard has a chance of escaping a group with clg/h2k as the 2nd pool draws.
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Sep 8, 2016 20:25
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if there is any justice in this world doublelift will lose to brazil again
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I'd like NA to do well. It would be cool if finals wasn't korea v korea too.
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I think this is honestly the year that China does real well and maybe takes it. EDG and RNG both seem well suited to this meta.
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TSM can probably do pretty well before the emergency buffs to all fakers champs go through.
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I think it will probably end up one of EDG/RNG vs. one of ROX/SKT. Not exactly a bold prediction I know, but still. I think China will do way better than last year and Europe will do way worse than last year. Still need to see the group drawings though (they are the 10th right?)
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