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jt
Nov 23, 2004

I love Japan! All hail the glorious Nippon!

crazysim posted:

Try an alternative Terminal? Maybe iTerm 2? It might fix some unmentioned grievances as well.

Thanks again. I recall iTerm 2 used to have a butt ugly icon - appears to have fixed my only gripe with it :)

Now my rMBP setup is finally complete!

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birds
Jun 28, 2008


Can you install XP via Boot Camp on Lion? I want to play SimCity on my MacBook Air but it crashes an awful lot on my Windows 7 machine. I figure it'd run better on XP.

wolffenstein
Aug 2, 2002
 
Pork Pro
It's probably easier for you to use WINE/Crossfire/Parallels/VMWare.

Cyne
May 30, 2007
Beauty is a rare thing.

Macintosh posted:

Can you install XP via Boot Camp on Lion? I want to play SimCity on my MacBook Air but it crashes an awful lot on my Windows 7 machine. I figure it'd run better on XP.

Probably, but you won't be supplied with the appropriate drivers. I'm sure there's a way to get them but it would likely be more hassle than it's worth. As was said above, virtualization of some form would be your most painless option here.

Mug
Apr 26, 2005
It seems like on MacOS, you can't click on a link in a window if the window is not in focus. So if I have chrome open on my screen but it's not the active window, I click on a link in the Chrome window and nothing happens, it just brings Chrome into focus and I have to click the link again to follow it. Happens in Twitter app, too.

Is that just how MacOS works? Is it possible to fix that?

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

Mug posted:

It seems like on MacOS, you can't click on a link in a window if the window is not in focus. So if I have chrome open on my screen but it's not the active window, I click on a link in the Chrome window and nothing happens, it just brings Chrome into focus and I have to click the link again to follow it. Happens in Twitter app, too.

Is that just how MacOS works? Is it possible to fix that?

Pretty sure that's how it works.
It kind of makes sense to do it that way to prevent misclicks. Sometimes you click something to give it focus and then you end up clicking a link you didn't want to click.

Mug
Apr 26, 2005

baxate posted:

Pretty sure that's how it works.
It kind of makes sense to do it that way to prevent misclicks. Sometimes you click something to give it focus and then you end up clicking a link you didn't want to click.

I dunno, when I click on a window I think about where I'm clicking, and I don't think I ever click on a window just to bring it into focus. I'll just have to double-click on links I guess.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Mug posted:

It seems like on MacOS, you can't click on a link in a window if the window is not in focus. So if I have chrome open on my screen but it's not the active window, I click on a link in the Chrome window and nothing happens, it just brings Chrome into focus and I have to click the link again to follow it. Happens in Twitter app, too.

Is that just how MacOS works? Is it possible to fix that?
Hold down command and it'll click the link even if the window isn't even focus. Hold command and you can interact with inactive windows without bringing it into focus.

Mug
Apr 26, 2005

decypher posted:

Hold down command and it'll click the link even if the window isn't even focus. Hold command and you can interact with inactive windows without bringing it into focus.

Yessss thankyou. I'm learning slowly.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Mug posted:

Yessss thankyou. I'm learning slowly.
You're welcome!

Me too, brother. There are so many neat little details about OSX that I'm still learning after having used it since 2004.

It's a lot more fun to do work on OSX than Windows, in my [biased] opinion. Of course I'm amazed at Windows' hardware compatibility, but OSX completely nails the user experience which is much more important for me in the end.

It does seem, though, that OSX has SO many little tricks and features it's kinda easy to miss some. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing in the long run, discovering there are features that fit your needs like this instance of learning command to interact with inactive Windows.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

decypher posted:

Hold down command and it'll click the link even if the window isn't even focus. Hold command and you can interact with inactive windows without bringing it into focus.

Just tried this, it works but Command+Click also opens the link in a new tab in Chrome and Safari.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Mug posted:

It seems like on MacOS, you can't click on a link in a window if the window is not in focus. So if I have chrome open on my screen but it's not the active window, I click on a link in the Chrome window and nothing happens, it just brings Chrome into focus and I have to click the link again to follow it. Happens in Twitter app, too.

Is that just how MacOS works? Is it possible to fix that?
I think it's just up to the app to accept the click or not, or it's just something like controls vs content accepting it. I vaguely remember reading that it was configurable in the Classic Mac days, no clue about now. The command click trick is from way back too :eng101:

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Mug posted:

Yessss thankyou. I'm learning slowly.

Hell, I didn't know this one myself, and I've been using a Mac as a primary computer since OS 7.

invid
Dec 19, 2002
How useful is iDefrag? There seems to be a mixed bag of reviews and it is quite expensive to purchase. What is general consensus on its usefulness?

TIA

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

invid posted:

How useful is iDefrag? There seems to be a mixed bag of reviews and it is quite expensive to purchase. What is general consensus on its usefulness?

TIA

As I understand it, the general consensus is that OS X's filesystem is such that defragmentation is a negligible concern at best. The only time I've wanted/needed to use such a program is when I was trying to use Boot Camp, only had the bare minimum amount of space free, and it still couldn't install Windows because of file fragmentation. But in terms of effecting OS X itself, I don't think it's ever a concern.

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are

invid posted:

How useful is iDefrag? There seems to be a mixed bag of reviews and it is quite expensive to purchase. What is general consensus on its usefulness?

TIA

Useless.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Is it possible to change the default search sites/dictionary for when you 3–finger tap on a word? Would be pretty great for learning other languages if you can change it.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


invid posted:

How useful is iDefrag? There seems to be a mixed bag of reviews and it is quite expensive to purchase. What is general consensus on its usefulness?

Practically useless if all you do is surf the web and do word processing and regular stuff.

If you work with multi-gigabyte graphics all day long for months at a time on a single hard drive which no one in their right mind really does these days unless they're cheap, maybe a little bit useful. But you can do the same thing a defragger does by cloning your whole hard drive to another and then back and it'll be much faster than using a defragger, and doesn't stress your drive as much.

IMHO defragging just uses up your platter-based hard drive's useful life faster under Mac OS X. It's also detrimental to use on your SSD drive as it provides no benefits and also just uses up write cycles, which SSDs do have a limit on.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Manky posted:

As I understand it, the general consensus is that OS X's filesystem is such that defragmentation is a negligible concern at best. The only time I've wanted/needed to use such a program is when I was trying to use Boot Camp, only had the bare minimum amount of space free, and it still couldn't install Windows because of file fragmentation. But in terms of effecting OS X itself, I don't think it's ever a concern.

OS X automatically defragments files less than 20MB when they are accessed, or at least it used to. In any case, there is no reason to defrag manually, as everyone else has said.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!
I was under the impression it's pointless to defrag files larger than 20 MB if you have a platter drive as the head can't move fast enough to feel any fragmentation effect anyway.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

invid posted:

How useful is iDefrag? There seems to be a mixed bag of reviews and it is quite expensive to purchase. What is general consensus on its usefulness?

TIA

Even less than useless if you have one of the many SSD Macs.
It'll wear out an SSD much quicker than not doing it.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

decypher posted:

I was under the impression it's pointless to defrag files larger than 20 MB if you have a platter drive as the head can't move fast enough to feel any fragmentation effect anyway.

Where'd you hear that?

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
I installed InsomniaX to prevent my Air from falling asleep with the lid closed, it seems to work fine until I actually put the computer to sleep. After it wakes up I have to reset the InsomniaX options or else it won't prevent sleeping with the lid closed, is this a known bug?

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Bob Morales posted:

Where'd you hear that?

I can't remember where I initially heard it years ago, but most recently the Windows program Disk Defrag by Auslogics.

It states, "Reading large file fragments takes much longer than head position. This makes large file fragments defragmentation unnecessary."

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

decypher posted:

I can't remember where I initially heard it years ago, but most recently the Windows program Disk Defrag by Auslogics.

It states, "Reading large file fragments takes much longer than head position. This makes large file fragments defragmentation unnecessary."

Well, the idea is that seeking to a different area on the disk to pick up a piece of a fragmented file slows your computer down. You're doing say, 15ms of waiting depending on your drive for a seek operation. Let's also say your drive runs at 100MB/s (faster on the outside, slower on the inside, we'll just a nice round number). That means in the 15 ms you spend seeking to the next file fragment, you could have transferred 1.5MB of data.

So if you had a 6MB file that was all in one contiguous chunk, you could read it in 60ms (not counting the first seek). If it was split into two chunks (1 added seek) you'd have 75ms, 4 chunks (3 seeks) would take 105ms

I'm not sure if fragmentation is a bigger factor these days, than say 10 or 15 years ago when drives were really slow. Access times weren't really that much better than today (around 15-20ms) and the drives were only capable of transfering 10-15MB/s

That 6MB file would then take 600ms to read from the disk, assuming 15ms seeks and 10MB/s transfer. Two chunks would add one seek, and only increase to 615ms (only a 4% total time increase instead of 25%), 4 chunks (3 seeks) would take 645ms (only 7.5% increase instead of 75% like with the faster drive)

On one hand you're transfering a lot less data but on the other hand the penalty for having to seek isn't as bad, compared to how long it takes you to read the data anyway. Smaller file sizes probably compensated for that, though.

Hopefully todays operating systems and filesystems have improved so file fragmentation doesn't occur as often as before. Or my hard drive theory could be completely wrong.

Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 8, 2012

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

I'm giving this Macbook to my mom when I get a new one and I want to reset everything.

Is the only way to do this going to the Recovery HD, erasing the disk and installing Lion again? All I really need is to delete all my stuff and reset all the settings, is there a way to do that without reinstalling?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

mistermojo posted:

I'm giving this Macbook to my mom when I get a new one and I want to reset everything.

Is the only way to do this going to the Recovery HD, erasing the disk and installing Lion again? All I really need is to delete all my stuff and reset all the settings, is there a way to do that without reinstalling?

You can boot it single user then change some 'firstboot' file, and it will be like you just took it out of the box. I am on my phone or I would find the link for you.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

Bob Morales posted:

You can boot it single user then change some 'firstboot' file, and it will be like you just took it out of the box. I am on my phone or I would find the link for you.

If you don't really care about deleting the previous user account:
code:
mount -uw /
rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone
shutdown -r now

Otherwise just wipe it, it should only take 30-45 minutes.

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

Oh, I didn't even think about making a new user account and deleting my current one. Is that what those commands do?

I've never used multiple user accounts on OSX, are apps and things like that per-user too?

Didion
Mar 16, 2009
So, about 11 days left till Mountain Lion releases?

Terpfen
Jul 27, 2006
Objection!

:dukedog:

Didion posted:

So, about 11 days left till Mountain Lion releases?

My money's on the 24th or 25th. The 25th will kick off Apple's 3rd financial quarter.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

As I understand it, the headphone jack on the Macbook Airs includes audio in for a microphone. Is there an adapter that I can buy that where I can plug in headphones and microphone into the one jack?

I'd prefer not getting a USB headset however.

crazysim
May 23, 2004
I AM SOOOOO GAY
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First result here sounds like a winner

quote:

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Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001

invid posted:

How useful is iDefrag? There seems to be a mixed bag of reviews and it is quite expensive to purchase. What is general consensus on its usefulness?

TIA

We've actually purchased multiple copies of this for where I work.

Apple's recommended method to "defrag" is to back up your data, format your drive, reinstall Mac OS X, then restore your data from backup!
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1375

On one of my systems it reduced my boot-up time by 40 seconds.

I've seen a lot of Macs that were insanely fragmented.

1997 posted:

Useless.

It seemed pretty neat to me.

JamesOff
Dec 12, 2002

What a frightening beast!
Regarding (de)fragmentation on HFS+, I recommend a read of this:
http://osxbook.com//software/hfsdebug/fragmentation.html

I also recommend the book, if you're interested in how things work inside the OS :)

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Xenomorph posted:

We've actually purchased multiple copies of this for where I work.

On one of my systems it reduced my boot-up time by 40 seconds.

does it de-fragment or 'optimize' file layout as well?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Dev Center is down. Come on Mountain Lion GM! :f5:

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I did a stupid thing. Used Bootcamp Assistant to install Windows 7, but I just did the install on a default 20 gig partition; I didn't burn the disc of Mac utilities for Windows. Now the damned thing wants to start in Windows every time unless I hold down the Option key on startup; standard FAQ tells me to change this in the Bootcamp toolbar on Windows, but of course I don't have any Mac for Windows utilities installed. What should I do about this?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Mountain Lion GM is up for devs!

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Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Halloween Jack posted:

I did a stupid thing. Used Bootcamp Assistant to install Windows 7, but I just did the install on a default 20 gig partition; I didn't burn the disc of Mac utilities for Windows. Now the damned thing wants to start in Windows every time unless I hold down the Option key on startup; standard FAQ tells me to change this in the Bootcamp toolbar on Windows, but of course I don't have any Mac for Windows utilities installed. What should I do about this?

You should be able to change the Startup Disk from OSX, too. System Preferences, Startup Disk. Then just click on your OS X partition.

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