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Talas posted:I played Root for the first time yesterday with the Marquise de Cat faction. I was kind of enjoying it until I got ganged up on over and over again... and frankly, it feels very lame that several players work together to give another player the win right after destroying your only chance. Nothing wrong with playing a dominance card but that is 100% putting a target on your back for every player to do everything in their power to disrupt you or else they lose. The other part about people ganging up on you and handing a win to someone else though sounds like they may have gone hogwild trying to stop you and forgot that there was the rest of the table that was ready to scoop up the remains. Root is a very fragile game and all it takes is someone not playing it properly to throw everything off (in my opinion).
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Talas posted:I played Root for the first time yesterday with the Marquise de Cat faction. I was kind of enjoying it until I got ganged up on over and over again... and frankly, it feels very lame that several players work together to give another player the win right after destroying your only chance. The moment you play a dominance card, you're signaling exactly what you need to win to everyone on the map. Of course they're going to team up to prevent that immediate game ender. It's a much more specific thing that can be stopped, unlike the generally nebulous 'getting points' that is the standard victory.
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Oct 30, 2018 20:39
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Talas posted:I played Root for the first time yesterday with the Marquise de Cat faction. I was kind of enjoying it until I got ganged up on over and over again... and frankly, it feels very lame that several players work together to give another player the win right after destroying your only chance. The cats are very good at dominance victories, and once you show that, people need to stomp on them quickly or they will win.
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Oct 30, 2018 20:44
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admanb posted:They merged with a game company that failed to disclose $350k of debt. Wait, what? How does that happen? 
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Oct 30, 2018 20:51
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Geekchic had a waiting list a year long and required payment upfront. I wonder if anyone was able to recoup their money from them.
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Oct 30, 2018 20:56
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Talas posted:I played Root for the first time yesterday with the Marquise de Cat faction. I was kind of enjoying it until I got ganged up on over and over again... and frankly, it feels very lame that several players work together to give another player the win right after destroying your only chance. Also the cat faction begins with pieces spread out around the board, while all others start in a small area - it's natural for the cats to be the first faction each other player conflicts with
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Oct 30, 2018 21:06
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Root is pretty much always a bitter experience when you get coalitioned - doubly so if those players don't know when to stop and coalition someone else. It is not a nice game. I think the only way to make it meaner would be hidden simultaneous moves ala Diplomacy.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:14
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Corbeau posted:Wait, what? How does that happen? This happens all of the time actually. If I remember correctly it was a major reason why toys r us went bankrupt recently.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:41
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pospysyl posted:Apparently it's getting published by boardgametables.com? Reminds me of whattimeisit.com branching into streamable content in Bojack Horseman. As long as Henry Fondle isn't running the company they should be fine.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:46
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Just pretend I posted the 'give it to me now' Colbert gif. This sounds awesome and kinda hosed up.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:50
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Papes posted:This happens all of the time actually. If I remember correctly it was a major reason why toys r us went bankrupt recently. You do not remember correctly. Toys R us was acquired by a company with massive debt (Mitt Romney's Bain Capital) and then stuck with the loan that was taken out to buy it.
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Oct 30, 2018 22:02
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Private equity like Bain is a blight upon the Earth. I am also curious about the aforementioned company though.
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silvergoose posted:Private equity like Bain is a blight upon the Earth. I am also curious about the aforementioned company though. A leveraged buyout is kind of like aggressive chemotherapy for a company. The mortally ill patient either recovers and everyone's happy or they die painfully and penniless.
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Talas posted:I played Root for the first time yesterday with the Marquise de Cat faction. I was kind of enjoying it until I got ganged up on over and over again... and frankly, it feels very lame that several players work together to give another player the win right after destroying your only chance. When you're playing as the Cat you're going to feel ganged up on at the beginning. You have pieces on the entire board and both the Birds and Woodland Alliance are basically obligated to attack you. What you have to realize is that fighting isn't how to win: holding territory and building is. As long as you control enough empty building spaces to churn out VPs, everything else is just about holding back the other factions. Losing buildings isn't even a big deal unless they're Sawmills, since you can just rebuild them for the VP. The Cats have a pretty good VP rate, but as a group of new players it's not obvious how to interfere with the Woodland Alliance (surround their sympathy tokens with Martial Law and don't give them sympathizers) and the Vagabond usually gets fed early items until they're unstoppable (don't feed the Vagabond early items) so Cats look weak. But the Cat is a lot harder to interfere than the WA/Birds/Vagabond once everyone knows what they're doing. Birds have a similar issue, I think, where it's super obvious how to gently caress with the Birds and they're a big scary threat on the board, so most early games will end up being won by the WA or Vagabond.
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The Kickstarter thread was in a slapfight about flipping games so nobody answered me on this; is Level 7 [Omega Protocol] worth pulling the trigger on? Privateer Press is putting out a reprint of the game on Kickstarter, and the internet claims it to be a rather good dungeon crawler. I like the style, and it seems to have some interesting game mechanics as well. What's the hive mind's consensus on it?
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Oct 31, 2018 22:12
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Set posted:The Kickstarter thread was in a slapfight about flipping games so nobody answered me on this; is Level 7 [Omega Protocol] worth pulling the trigger on? Privateer Press is putting out a reprint of the game on Kickstarter, and the internet claims it to be a rather good dungeon crawler. I like the style, and it seems to have some interesting game mechanics as well. What's the hive mind's consensus on it? I've heard it is quite good, but is DM vs Player type of game. I was intrigued, but I'm not a fan of the DM style dungeon crawls anymore. Not game related, but the KS for it is so drat boring and PP seems equally bored about reprinting it. Really hard to get hyped up about it.
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Mugaaz posted:I've heard it is quite good, but is DM vs Player type of game. I was intrigued, but I'm not a fan of the DM style dungeon crawls anymore. Not game related, but the KS for it is so drat boring and PP seems equally bored about reprinting it. Really hard to get hyped up about it. I thought it was almost refreshing to see a Kickstarter without all the million different stretch goals and stuff. Just a reprint of a game that's been long out of circulation, simple and neat like that.  Yeah, it's not totally cooperative but we do have Gloomhaven and stuff like that for that. I'd just like a little more complex Space Hulk, that can also accomodate more than 2 players.
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Oct 31, 2018 22:28
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Set posted:I thought it was almost refreshing to see a Kickstarter without all the million different stretch goals and stuff. Just a reprint of a game that's been long out of circulation, simple and neat like that. I don't mind the crazy stretch goals and stuff for a product never intended to go to retail like this. They didn't even update anything or make any changes whatsoever. Might as well buy it second hand if the price is similar and play right now.
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Oct 31, 2018 22:33
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Set posted:I thought it was almost refreshing to see a Kickstarter without all the million different stretch goals and stuff. Just a reprint of a game that's been long out of circulation, simple and neat like that. 2018 has been great for these. Container, Estates, Stephenson's Rocket, Brass, and more. 2019 is looking great too: Pax Pamir/Porf, Age of Steam, and BattleCon so far. Hope Ginkopolis and Reef Encounter get reprinted at some point too 
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Mugaaz posted:I don't mind the crazy stretch goals and stuff for a product never intended to go to retail like this. They didn't even update anything or make any changes whatsoever. Might as well buy it second hand if the price is similar and play right now. That's the thing, apparently it's been really hard to get a hold of. That is at least true for my neck of the woods. To me it seems they've actually fixed some of the rules and updated the boards and some of the miniatures? They looked a little different when I compared to pictures from boardgamegeek at least. Maybe closer to a version 1.5, rather than a true second edition. But yeah, if it ain't going to retail, then going hog wild with the stretch goals is obviously the way to go if you want to maximize your final sum of Kickstarter cash. Looks like they just wanted to reprint the game, and used Kickstarter as a gauge to see how much interest there is. Doesn't hurt if the game is basically done and all you need to do is update some minor components along the way.
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Oct 31, 2018 22:42
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Ye gods, The Faceless will do some horrible things to you. loving magnets, how do they work?
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Chill la Chill posted:2018 has been great for these. Container, Estates, Stephenson's Rocket, Brass, and more. 2019 is looking great too: Pax Pamir/Porf, Age of Steam, and BattleCon so far. Hope Ginkopolis and Reef Encounter get reprinted at some point too https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1909992/do-you-want-reprint/page/13 It's like they don't want money. Key Market is getting reprtined tho, that's cool.
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Looks like Container might lapse back into the status of "out of print grail game":quote:Hello everyone,
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they better send me the extra containers they promised after screwing up the first extra batch
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In this world where media increasingly becomes digital we still cling to physical toys even though it's killing us *rips down family photos to install fourth kallax*
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Container could fit in the Bohnanza box with sensible components.
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and they called me mad, MAD for jumping on the kickstarter
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Container should just be a card game with little cubes. Phil Eklund's Container.
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quote:For those of you planning on backing our upcoming Kickstarter for Big City, please be aware that we now estimate the same potential issue arising in that production too, but it may be difficult to print more after that since it's an even more ambitious project. Big City will certainly not come to life without the continued support of our fanbase. well gee we could go with a different strategy that doesn't rely on oversized overproduced components, or we could go full steam ahead full steam ahead!
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Man I am really glad I never unwrapped my Container, that’ll be a good flip in a year or so
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Fellis posted:Man I am really glad I never unwrapped my Container, that’ll be a good flip in a year or so Play good games, jerk > 
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Food $200 Data $150 Rent $800 Giant plastic ships $3,600 Utility $150 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my game company is dying
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Nov 2, 2018 00:49
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Food $200 Buy less plastic ships
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Nov 2, 2018 00:53
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Some Numbers posted:Buy less plastic ships No.
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Nov 2, 2018 00:54
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cenotaph posted:Container could fit in the Bohnanza box with sensible components. My copy of Container fits into a smaller box than Codenames (though deeper).
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Food $200 Just think, if they'd just used wood instead of plastic, they'd have gotten a better review on Shut Up Sit Down and they wouldn't have . . . somewhat ironically . . . had their manufacturing cost pipeline thrown into disarray by Trump's tariffs on Chinese imports
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People call out Splotter for being too expensive for the quality of components but Splotter is economically smart because they know what's sustainable.
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Some Numbers posted:My copy of Container fits into a smaller box than Codenames (though deeper). Which pnp did you use?
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al-azad posted:Play good games, jerk > I’ve played Container! I also spent $20 at gencon on enough random wooden bits (mostly catan) to pnp my own copy of Container that will fit in a small box. I wouldn’t mind getting my money back on overproduced Container.
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al-azad posted:People call out Splotter for being too expensive for the quality of components but Splotter is economically smart because they know what's sustainable. It's not the quality of the components, it's the quality of their art design (which is garbage)
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