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jng2058 posted:It's because we know the episode titles of the first six episodes, and have for a while, that people assume that it's a six episode season instead of eight. Yeah that's how it started but I think a lot of these articles are just copying from other articles without checking anything. The Daily Mail article linked is apparently just a copy paste from a Radio Times article that isn't online yet.
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Johnny Joestar posted:The Fully Aroused Male Genital Count
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah that's how it started but I think a lot of these articles are just copying from other articles without checking anything. The Daily Mail article linked is apparently just a copy paste from a Radio Times article that isn't online yet. It's astonishingly poorly written, and I can't believe how bad the site is.
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but yeah, for a more serious post in regards to interview details, robert jordan being a vietnam war vet is something i'd say is an actually relevant detail about him in comparison to, say, tolkien, since his series is frequently brought up in relation to lord of the rings. if you're expecting the typical depiction of war and battle that's in fantasy epics you're not really going to get that, and i hope the tv show carries that through during multiple scenarios.
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Johnny Joestar posted:but yeah, for a more serious post in regards to interview details, robert jordan being a vietnam war vet is something i'd say is an actually relevant detail about him in comparison to, say, tolkien, since his series is frequently brought up in relation to lord of the rings. if you're expecting the typical depiction of war and battle that's in fantasy epics you're not really going to get that, and i hope the tv show carries that through during multiple scenarios. Tolkien fought at the Somme in World War I, so it's not like JRR was a stranger to war himself.
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Johnny Joestar posted:but yeah, for a more serious post in regards to interview details, robert jordan being a vietnam war vet is something i'd say is an actually relevant detail about him in comparison to, say, tolkien, since his series is frequently brought up in relation to lord of the rings. if you're expecting the typical depiction of war and battle that's in fantasy epics you're not really going to get that, and i hope the tv show carries that through during multiple scenarios. Personally I really hope they lean into apocalpyse now / platoon style camera work for the combat scenes.
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Tolkien fought in the first world War, I thought? E: right. E2: gonna use this space to say I hope there is a bunch of nudity of both sexes. Gimme t & a & dongs all day long.
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i wasn't saying tolkien hadn't fought in war, just that the two have different approaches to how they depict and think about things
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Johnny Joestar posted:i wasn't saying tolkien hadn't fought in war, just that the two have different approaches to how they depict and think about things And both differ significantly from how most other fantasy writers depict war. See, e.g., Sanderson, Martin, etc. Most fantasy writers treat combat like spectacle, not like horror.
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buffalo all day posted:
Someone is mad the Sun stop putting naked 16 year olds on Page 3 of the morning paper
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yeah, sanderson in particular kind of loses out of the edge jordan had when he takes over later in the series, on that front. one of the few aspects where it's absolutely noticeable. you definitely get more nuanced perspectives on that kind of thing when a writer had to actually go through and see some poo poo, and even if the way they express it can be pretty ham-fisted at times it tends to at least be further than other authors are willing to go in terms of portraying various events as anything but noble.
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Also, if Amazon follows their normal schedule for this series, the show will only air for 6 weeks. For reference, The Expanse usually doubles or triples up episodes on premiere day and then does one per week after.
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NuclearEagleFox!!! posted:Also, if Amazon follows their normal schedule for this series, the show will only air for 6 weeks. they're dropping 3 eps day 1 and then 1 per week after that for 6 weeks total, so...yep
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Johnny Joestar posted:The Fully Aroused Male Genital Count I think in the books it was mostly saunas or slavers taking all the clothes off the enslaved, not particularly arousing contexts.
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We were promised nudity - penis and full bush.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:We were promised nudity - penis and full bush. Where are my nude Trollocs and Fades? 
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I'm here for the show being broadly described as "feminist fantasy" That's going to make certain people dismiss it right out of hand
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Data Graham posted:I'm here for the show being broadly described as "feminist fantasy" It's a fair description if by "feminist" one means " white dude in the 1990s attempting to write a second wave feminist fantasy novel" But for fantasy television I guess that is still actually pretty progressive
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The gender essentialism is going to cause some waves, I suspect. I don't have any issue with it, but I can see how some people on the internet in the year 2021 are going to probably get pretty grumpy.
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it absolutely was leagues ahead of a lot of things at the time it was coming out, which says a lot about everything else more than it does wheel of time specifically but even beyond that, yeah, they're leveraging the angle of 'hey there's a lot of women and they're not just set decoration' pretty hard as a way to sell the show, which actually will help it out for some people
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I still maintain that a lot of what spurred Jordan was the fact that LotR has like no women, so he saw a wide open opportunity in the market for a story with ALL THE WOMEN.
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How are u posted:The gender essentialism is going to cause some waves, I suspect. I don't have any issue with it, but I can see how some people on the internet in the year 2021 are going to probably get pretty grumpy. e: It's in one of the trailers. But sure, whatever. Given the whole "we don't know if the Dragon is a boy or a girl" thing that's causing such a fuss among some of the fans, I'm suspecting that the show will lean a lot less on gender essentialism. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 9, 2021 |
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this isn't the spoiler thread though
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How are u posted:The gender essentialism is going to cause some waves, I suspect. I don't have any issue with it, but I can see how some people on the internet in the year 2021 are going to probably get pretty grumpy. Yeah my biggest fear with all this is that a bunch of horrible TERFs latch onto WoT and it all turns into a shitshow. I'm glad that the show seems to be deliberately steering away from those waters so far, at least as much as possible. Data Graham posted:I still maintain that a lot of what spurred Jordan was the fact that LotR has like no women, so he saw a wide open opportunity in the market for a story with ALL THE WOMEN. From what I've seen of interviews, apparently he read some fantasy novel that was "young girl can't apply to wizard school because sexism," thought "wait, what if a boy couldn't get into wizard school!" which ain't great, but then took it the step farther to "If men can't go to wizard school there's probably a reason for that." Also originally Tam was the main character and was a retired war veteran and the editors told him to young everyone up.
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Data Graham posted:I still maintain that a lot of what spurred Jordan was the fact that LotR has like no women, so he saw a wide open opportunity in the market for a story with ALL THE WOMEN. All the women, but most of them are terrible and spend most of the book space either infighting or acting smugly superior while male MCs do the heavy lifting in "save the world" department and gather harems. How is anyone reading that as "feminist fantasy"? Unless they stopped after the first book and decided since it has matriarchy it's "feminist fantasy" and read no further.
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How are u posted:The gender essentialism is going to cause some waves, I suspect. I don't have any issue with it, but I can see how some people on the internet in the year 2021 are going to probably get pretty grumpy. Yea I saw a fair few "  TV in 2020" posts on Reddit when the first real trailer dropped.
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Pyromancer posted:All the women, but most of them are terrible and spend most of the book space either infighting or acting smugly superior while male MCs do the heavy lifting in "save the world" department and gather harems. This isn't the book thread but that isn't really remotely true.
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Pyromancer posted:All the women Come bring your terrible wrong bad take to the spoiler thread, friend.
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quote:To be frank, it was always unlikely I’d be watching Rosamund Pike’s new Amazon Prime Video series based on Robert Jordan’s 14-book saga, The Wheel of Time. https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/rosamund-pike-wheel-of-time-equal-opportunities-soft-porn-amazon-prime-b965170.html This lady has not exactly seen the map of Tar Valon has she One thing I think everyone can agree on: Wheel of Time is for pervs
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/rosamund-pike-wheel-of-time-equal-opportunities-soft-porn-amazon-prime-b965170.html I read this and looked at the source and name and felt 99.9% confident this person was a TERF and, after googling: lol i was very right (e.g. -- TW transphobia) eke out fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 9, 2021 |
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The author of that article sounds insufferable.
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A real genuine fun-hater
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How are u posted:The gently caress is "cod-Celticism" ? You've never heard of the Irish fishing industry?
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We Demand More Oiled Up Farm Boys
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:We Demand More Oiled Up Farm Boys Grease me up, woman!
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/rosamund-pike-wheel-of-time-equal-opportunities-soft-porn-amazon-prime-b965170.html Hooray for nudity equality. As I said back in May, in the book (spoilers!) thread: Vavrek posted:Per earlier conversation (like maybe a year ago? year and a half?), on this point: ONE YEAR LATER posted:We Demand More Oiled Up Farm Boys 
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It's not equal here, at least according to that quote. She was saying how its amusing that the actors are body conscious (pretty lame thing to say), and how the women will be keeping clothes on etc. And it points out "many more" men are naked than women etc. Some buttered up abs or whatever, ok, the show looks a bit too much like that Shanara series or so in acting quality and visuals unfortunately. Not too high hopes either way. On the nudity thing, I remember Westworld season 2 stopped having the women be nude, and showed dongs instead. And it was a source of humor at the time. It's just so transparent and nutty, the attempt to course correct and talking like it's a triumph. But anyways, I like gratuitous nudity anyway, and the pendulums (dong pendulums) swinging the other nudity way for justice, it's a yawn and a whatever. At least it gets people talking, which is the idea, but the show, poo poo, it's got a tough road regardless of this nutty topic. No wonder they're talking about vacuous stuff like this. Plus, it's such a circlejerk when this stuff arises. I'm a gay friendly friend of the gays, very gay friends, liberal etc, at least 10% gay. But an artistic choice and how it's presented, it's made apparently political, so anybody who says hmm I'm not into this choice, treated like a Maga chud assclown or whatever. But uh I like softcore that appeals to me, if for some reason the show we're talking about has softcore or whatever. It's a smokescreen to keep the people bickering about nonsense, when the show will probably be not good for more usual reasons, poor screenwriting, direction, budget, etc. But good luck to the show.
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i don't think an actor making an offhand joke about maybe a couple more guy asses being in the show than expected is leading to whatever you have going on specifically
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If it was the other way around, saying it's amusing that someone is body conscious would be considered lame. You've been bullying me on here for years, or at least you did, so not surprising to see you slighting me here either. Already you're putting yourself out there talking about the hot button topics, might as well just give eachother the benefit of the doubt and not be insulting.
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