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My family wants to see the DMZ. I saw the USO tour recommended a lot in this thread, so I checked into it to find it costs a hundred bucks and takes all day. Is it really worth an entire day and that much cash? Can you visit the DMZ without going on the tour?
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dantheman650 posted:My family wants to see the DMZ. I saw the USO tour recommended a lot in this thread, so I checked into it to find it costs a hundred bucks and takes all day. Is it really worth an entire day and that much cash? Can you visit the DMZ without going on the tour? Yes it is worth all day and 100$ a head. Do not book a different tour. If you want to cheat them out of all the cool stuff (and I mean all the cool stuff) you can go to one of the many peace observatories along the DMZ which cost like 1-5000w admission. There is one in Paju which is on the subway (I think) and another on Ganghwa Island which is a ~90 min bus from Sinchon stn. The peace observatories are cool on their own but are a poor replacement for the USO tour. You will be able to physically see land that is in north korea and you will be able to look at some fake villages through telescopes. You will not see this.  or the bridge of no return, the axe murder tree, dorasan observatory....etc etc etc
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Mar 20, 2015 07:15
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dantheman650 posted:My family wants to see the DMZ. I saw the USO tour recommended a lot in this thread, so I checked into it to find it costs a hundred bucks and takes all day. Is it really worth an entire day and that much cash? Can you visit the DMZ without going on the tour? Do it. If it includes the tunnels, definitely loving do it.
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Mar 20, 2015 07:22
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The DMZ is dumb and boring, go to Taco Bell instead. 
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Mar 20, 2015 07:37
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VideoTapir posted:Do it. But DON'T actually do the tunnels.
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Mar 20, 2015 08:00
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The tunnels sucked for me being a tall person
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Mar 20, 2015 10:18
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Arctic Baldwin posted:The tunnels sucked for me being a tall person the tunnels even suck for dwarves cause you're just going down a long black tunnel and in the end THERE'S loving NOTHING
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Mar 20, 2015 10:32
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Jeoh posted:the tunnels even suck for dwarves cause you're just going down a long black tunnel and in the end THERE'S loving NOTHING
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Mar 20, 2015 10:58
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Jeoh posted:the tunnels even suck for dwarves cause you're just going down a long black tunnel and in the end THERE'S loving NOTHING Looks like you didn't believe enough in magic.
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Mar 20, 2015 12:43
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I enjoyed the tunnels, but I like rock things and I'm not that tall. Just be in the front. Being in a slow pushy moving crowd down the tunnel would lead to violence.
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Mar 20, 2015 17:25
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I'm downloading Skyrim with a 256k connection. Take me back Korea I love you.
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Mar 22, 2015 01:33
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dantheman650 posted:My family wants to see the DMZ. I saw the USO tour recommended a lot in this thread, so I checked into it to find it costs a hundred bucks and takes all day. Is it really worth an entire day and that much cash? Can you visit the DMZ without going on the tour? Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude it's so awesome and TOTALLY WORTH IT. But if the rest of your family is as tall as you, you're gonna look funny as poo poo going through the tunnels. 
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Mar 22, 2015 11:18
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I went on the USO tour last Saturday. It was well worth the 100k. I actually walked down the tunnel and then turned around at the bottom and went up again, shouldn't even have gone that far, it was much more interesting on the outside.
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Mar 22, 2015 11:23
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It's hosed up, cause the Korean tours just use the elevantor to go up / down (different colour helmets)
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Mar 22, 2015 12:16
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Jeoh posted:the tunnels even suck for dwarves cause you're just going down a long black tunnel and in the end THERE'S loving NOTHING I'm pretty short and it was pretty tight. You get to see an exciting concrete barrier and the collective disappointment of your tour group. You might also have to deal with Chinese tour groups because it's one of the few areas they can go to by the DMZ. Scratchy megaphones blaring commands in mandarin, mobs of people pushing through everything, and children wearing crotch less pants in -10 Celsius has a quality all it's own though. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 04:01
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Ooh, I never did get around to observing if the Chinese also poo poo on Korean streets. Or is that just a thing they do in/to the West?
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Mar 23, 2015 04:16
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WarpedNaba posted:Ooh, I never did get around to observing if the Chinese also poo poo on Korean streets. Or is that just a thing they do in/to the West? As caberham can attest it's not just a Chinese thing. I've seen enough native street making GBS threads here.
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Mar 23, 2015 04:50
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DontAskKant posted:As caberham can attest it's not just a Chinese thing. I've seen enough native street making GBS threads here. No, those were all visiting Chinese.
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Mar 23, 2015 05:42
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Whizbang posted:No, those were all visiting Chinese. They were local. But then again, Koreans are just a bunch of Chinese colonists 
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Mar 23, 2015 06:00
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There are no bad Koreans, just cleverly disguised Chinese.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:42
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With all the love the Chinese get in this board you might as well rename T&T to San Fransisco, 1877.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:29
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Eifert Posting posted:With all the love the Chinese get in this board you might as well rename T&T to San Fransisco, 1877. China.jpg thread in GBS seems to be using "chinaman" unironically.
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Mar 24, 2015 05:31
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Maybe they are referring to a glorious mountain peak named in the honor of a Chinaman's climbing prowess in the fine diverse Canadian province of Alberta.
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Mar 24, 2015 15:00
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Maxsmart posted:Maybe they are referring to a glorious mountain peak named in the honor of a Chinaman's climbing prowess in the fine diverse Canadian province of Alberta. Dude the story owns http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha_Ling_Peak
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Mar 24, 2015 16:18
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Why I mentioned it
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Mar 24, 2015 19:41
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THE LUMMOX posted:Dude the story owns http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha_Ling_Peak 1980 seemed to be a big year for stopping that type of thing. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin,_Illinois#High_school
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Mar 25, 2015 04:51
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THE LUMMOX posted:Dude the story owns http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha_Ling_Peak "See also: Canmore Museum and Geoscience Centre Chinaman (term) Mountains of Alberta List of mountains of Canada Negro Mountain" On another note, I arrived in Seoul last night and I want to request an invite to the KakaoTalk list here! ID: Copicat
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Mar 25, 2015 23:10
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Paperhouse posted:I'm thinking of biting the bullet and paying for a TEFL course so that I can go to Asia and be Asian. But, here's my question: is there a specific time of year that schools in South Korea look to hire people? My current tenancy runs out in the summer and ideally I would be able to leave coinciding with that You want to live in Seoul or Busan. Not some lovely satellite city like Yongin or Suwon or Bundang.
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Mar 28, 2015 18:00
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It seems very likely that I would not get to live in either of those places though. I am okay with this, they can't be the only two good places in the country... right?
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Mar 28, 2015 18:19
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Paperhouse posted:It seems very likely that I would not get to live in either of those places though. I am okay with this, they can't be the only two good places in the country... right? They actually are. I would hate to live in a place like daejon or changwon or something lovely like that.
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Mar 28, 2015 18:35
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Paperhouse posted:It seems very likely that I would not get to live in either of those places though. I am okay with this, they can't be the only two good places in the country... right? They are not. There's not much difference between the large cities anymore. There used to be, visits to Seoul were a noticeable difference when I first moved to Korea but by the time I left there was very little in Seoul that wasn't where I lived. Just a matter of scale. Anyone who tells you the rest of the country is worthless has never lived there or is dumb. I would've liked to live in Seoul for my last year just for a change of pace, but I never did and don't feel like I missed out. Living in a little village nowhere near the KTX probably sucks. A major city on the KTX lines, no. Also if you're looking for a public school job, you're not going to be in Seoul or Busan. The quality of life benefits from a public school job are huge. I can't think of any possible way a hagwon in Seoul is a better life than a public school in Daegu. I stayed in Bundang a week and that might be the nicest area I've ever seen in Korea.
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Mar 29, 2015 02:07
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Paperhouse posted:It seems very likely that I would not get to live in either of those places though. I am okay with this, they can't be the only two good places in the country... right? Yeah not at all. Fingerblaster tried to tell the last person considering coming here the same thing and no one agreed with him (Except last time he said only Seoul, guess he's lightened up his view a little). Several of us live in smaller cities or satellite cities and like it just fine. I live in Daegu and love it. Furthermore, I prefer it to Seoul as a place to live.
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Mar 29, 2015 03:03
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Grand Fromage posted:The quality of life benefits from a public school job are huge. I can't think of any possible way a hagwon in Seoul is a better life than a public school in Daegu. This is simply not true. I have met lots of unhappy public school teachers. If you have a lovely boss, it doesn't matter if you work at a public school or hagwon. Also, I stand by my assertion that Seoul is the best. I have lived in small town, Jinju, and Seoul. Seoul the best, Jinju was ok, and small town was the worst. There are advantages and disadvantages of all of those places, but the advantages in Seoul are the best. Check the OP.
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Mar 29, 2015 03:09
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FINGERBLASTER69 posted:Check the OP. The OP is so old it picks through garbage for egg money.
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Mar 29, 2015 03:17
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FINGERBLASTER69 posted:This is simply not true. I have met lots of unhappy public school teachers. If you have a lovely boss, it doesn't matter if you work at a public school or hagwon. Agreed, but all things being equal the public school is always superior. There are hell principals, and there are amazing hagwons, but we're talking odds here. Gildiss posted:The OP is so old it picks through garbage for egg money. 
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Mar 29, 2015 03:23
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Paperhouse posted:It seems very likely that I would not get to live in either of those places though. I am okay with this, they can't be the only two good places in the country... right? Right. ~FINGERBLASTER69~ is just a lovely poster. I went from a tiny little farmtown to Seoul. Living in Seoul is more convenient, but less fun. I grew up in Chicago, and living in Seoul just makes me want to go home, because it's lovely in comparison. Seoul is a boring, dirty, crowded city with bad food where everybody's sad. When I was living in the countryside I had an awful boss and an inflexible school, but it was still a lot of fun. The scenery was gorgeous, the food was excellent, the people were friendly, and it seemed like a real departure from what I was used to back in America. As long as you're not completely incapable of adapting to something new, a little town will probably be pretty fun and interesting. Even if you really hate it, you'll be in a much better position to move, even after only a year. The one thing Seoul is hands-down superior in is dating. When I was in Yesan I could maybe scrape together a date every two months or so -- small towns are mostly old folks and kids. Seoul, on average (I think), I went out at least once a week until I met my fiancee.
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Mar 29, 2015 04:35
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Onion Knight posted:Right. ~FINGERBLASTER69~ is just a lovely poster. THANK YOU He is literally the biggest goonlord itt I have lived and visited at least 2 places in every province (including the big cities) over the years and I have never seen a place that I didn't think had redeeming qualities. This retard is just a shitposter: plain and simple. His name is Finger Blaster 69 for crying out loud. If he's not 12 years old irl then he's half of that age mentally.
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Mar 29, 2015 07:10
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I really don't care for Ulsan, but I don't think it's irredeemable. It's just a fairly boring city and the expat chicks here are super basic, so if I want to do anything I'd normally bring a girlfriend to (shopping, etc.) I just go alone because most of my friends are dudes. There are loads of people who have been here for years and years and like it just fine. I think any place you move to is about 75% what you make of it. You could be completely miserable in Seoul or Busan and perfectly happy in Jeonju for a number of reasons. Just don't go into this with the feeling that everything will suck if you're not in a major city.
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Mar 29, 2015 07:24
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Tiny towns are legitimately weird in Korea though. Like Onion Knight says, they're largely old people and the kids of the people who abandoned the small town for the big cities and foisted their spawn off on grandma. It's not that you can't enjoy it, I've known several people who liked living in rural Korea, but it is not what you're picturing small town life as if you're from the US.
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Mar 29, 2015 08:06
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A year in a small town is fine. People are friendly, the quirks are interesting, and exploring the natural countryside is a lot of fun. You can take a bus to the nearest city for weekends when you need it. But you'd have to be a a certain kind of person to enjoy it beyond that. I loved my first year in the countryside but couldn't have done a second. Having only the elderly and small children to interact with during the week takes its toll. You'd never really be stuck in the countryside for two years though. It's a bit difficult to get good jobs in specific locations when you're applying from outside the country, but more realistic once your here. Or, if you're like me and your town is commute distance from a city, you can just switch to a city apartment during renewal.
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