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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Well, gently caress, I didn't know the ROTT switch port was being handled by THOSE guys :smith:

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Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only

drrockso20 posted:

Honestly you aren't far off from what I'd want


Exactly, just like how Turn A Gundam had Syd Mead contribute designs to it, this hypothetical Shogo reboot should get some actual mecha designers from shows like Gundam and Macross to work on it

I was going to make an attempt at a Shogo 2 With The Name Filed Off because mechanical design is my life, but I'm pretty much the only developer type that WANTS a Shogo 2 and I'm absolutely not a level designer.

I got as far as modelling one of the main mechs atleast. Plan was for there to be 3 playable units, which I had concept designs for. I'm currently doing a scrolling shooter because it's easier and having a finished game would help me garner interest in doing another project I'd like to do.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Quickly skimming through the last dying gasps of Realms Deep that happened while I was unconscious that you've probably already been discussing copiously:

  • Crystal Caves HD arrives in October, with an all new episode. Surprise!
  • Shrine II is getting a standalone Steam release that's coming the moment Valve approves the store page.
  • System Shock Remake gore and Cyberspace previews.
  • Star Explorers gave a tease of it's upcoming 5.0 update.
  • Viscerafest isn't something i've been paying much attention to, but it looks pretty great! Sadly, the devs have fulltime jobs outside of entertaining our dumb asses, so a release date is up in the air.
  • Warfork, or "We have Q3A at home", is out and free.
  • An expansion pack for Ion Fury is dropping next year, with motorcycles and hopefully more than two monsters.
  • Extended interviews with John Romero, Cliff Blezinski and Jon St. John.

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
ooooo shine II

Homora Gaykemi
Apr 30, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
new expansion by the transphobes that doubled down on their lovely comments, new game by the Brutal Doom nazi, port of an old game by the Hatred guys. totally cool, normal event by a totally not a chud publisher

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

The Kins posted:


oh fuckin yeah

Copper Vein
Mar 14, 2007

...and we liked it that way.
I'm interested in more Ion Fury, and I wonder if they've said that the expansion will be a separate purchase, or give it away for free. Same with the Amid Evil expansion.

This neo-retro wave started without all the "season pass" tactics that AAA games use so I could see them going either way.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Homora Gaykemi posted:

new expansion by the transphobes that doubled down on their lovely comments, new game by the Brutal Doom nazi, port of an old game by the Hatred guys. totally cool, normal event by a totally not a chud publisher
I think you forgot the Milo fans.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
Trying to keep up with everyone's location on the people that are terrible/people that make cool things venn diagram is exhausting and I'm starting to think that art != artist is the ultimate viewpoint.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

caleb posted:

Trying to keep up with everyone's location on the people that are terrible/people that make cool things venn diagram is exhausting and I'm starting to think that art != artist is the ultimate viewpoint.

It is but also giving money to nazis is a bad idea. There is absolutely no circumstance under which I will pay any money for a ROTT remaster made by people with neo nazi connections.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

caleb posted:

Trying to keep up with everyone's location on the people that are terrible/people that make cool things venn diagram is exhausting and I'm starting to think that art != artist is the ultimate viewpoint.

get this, the hatred devs produce fart, not art

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
They should add a checkbox to the Steam checkout page that says "Have you read the entirety of every member of the development team's Twitter account?" and if you don't click it you can't buy the video game.

Homora Gaykemi
Apr 30, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

caleb posted:

They should add a checkbox to the Steam checkout page that says "Have you read the entirety of every member of the development team's Twitter account?" and if you don't click it you can't buy the video game.

Obviously individual consumers shouldn't be expected to keep on top of all of this, but a publisher should probably be a little bit aware of the history of the people they're partnering with or planning on featuring at an event they're running

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

caleb posted:

They should add a checkbox to the Steam checkout page that says "Have you read the entirety of every member of the development team's Twitter account?" and if you don't click it you can't buy the video game.

Imo there is a big difference between buying Ion Fury and buying Hatred, in the same way that I would feel more comfortable putting money down to watch a Val Kilmer movie than a Kevin Spacey movie.

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
Art =/= artist is the cowards way out. :colbert:

https://twitter.com/mikerubits/status/1302679271765311489

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Just do what I do and only play Doom wads and Quake maps

While waiting for Graven, maybe I'll check Doom II: Ascension, which just looks lovely and ticks that "Heretixen light cRPG FPS" thing for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7rZXeS2gI

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Hell of a deal on Blood: Fresh Supply here, best thing you'll buy for £1.07 all day

https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/blood-fresh-supply

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

Homora Gaykemi posted:

Obviously individual consumers shouldn't be expected to keep on top of all of this, but a publisher should probably be a little bit aware of the history of the people they're partnering with or planning on featuring at an event they're running

Sadly, there are probably more people that will buy a game because it supports Neo-Nazis than there are people that will look up info on the developers and refuse to buy because of it.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.
I guess if you are a publisher and your employee is a known neo nazi and you are funneling money into their bank account you are somewhat complicit in spreading hate messages. I just dislike that this is even a thing that has to be considered when purchasing games is all. I agree with the points you have all been making it is just depressing.

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
Yeah it's poo poo. But on the plus side, we have each other. :glomp:

Wait no we can't do that during the pandemic. High five. :hf:

Wait we can't do that either. :mad:

FORGET IT.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Ultimate Doom
Final Doom
Terminal Doom
Last Doom
Doom Epilogue

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only
I've honestly reached a point where I'm so exhausted by political leanings and way too loving depressed that I just don't give a poo poo as long as it's fun to play. My mind literally cannot handle worrying about who is what anymore unless they're legit breaking the law. End my suffering already.

Flinger
Oct 16, 2012

caleb posted:

Trying to keep up with everyone's location

But that's what retro fps is all about. Watch me circlestrafe nazis, maybe cause some infighting :cheers:

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

Wait no we can't do that during the pandemic. High five. :hf:

Wait we can't do that either. :mad:

FORGET IT.

One of my specialists is big into elbow bumps, maybe give that a whirl.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Wasn’t Kaiser or somebody working on a better RoTT source port?

Theoretically ECWolf will add support for RoTT too, but at the current pace of development that’s on track to be completed in 2035.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

laserghost posted:

Just do what I do and only play Doom wads and Quake maps
I bring grim tidings from the far off future of (googles when the brutal doom stuff happened), the distant past of (randomly picks one of the 500 different doomerboards mapsets) and the terrifying present of (jesus, how many gameplay mods emerged from the depths of 4chan again?).

david_a posted:

Wasn’t Kaiser or somebody working on a better RoTT source port?
Kaiser was fiddling with something at some point and it was going pretty well judging by the unfinished build that I think floated out from some Discord or other, but he also didn't seem hugely invested in it so given how busy Night Dive is right now with the remasters of Shadowman, SiN, Blade Runner and God Knows What Else it's probably extremely dead. Pity, but I guess that's how hobby projects go when your hobby is also your job.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



What did the Hatred guys do other than make a stupid edgelord Postal 1 ripoff?

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Diabetes Forecast posted:

I've honestly reached a point where I'm so exhausted by political leanings and way too loving depressed that I just don't give a poo poo as long as it's fun to play. My mind literally cannot handle worrying about who is what anymore unless they're legit breaking the law. End my suffering already.

My issue is that I'm disconnected to social media (just log into FB to see some birthdays) and I often find that something that I enjoy or may like has some hosed up dude behind.

Some years ago we had the same shitheads making videogames and we didn't know about most of them. But now they're either more vocal or people investigate more. Right now getting a game is like a drat minefield and you become guilty if you actually like that game that was made by 40+ devs, but one of them us an awful individual.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

SeANMcBAY posted:

What did the Hatred guys do other than make a stupid edgelord Postal 1 ripoff?

I think that’s the only game they made. I believe the really questionable part (other than the edgelord game itself I guess) is that some of the music and the voice of the protagonistantagonist is from this band.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Guillermus posted:

Right now getting a game is like a drat minefield and you become guilty if you actually like that game that was made by 40+ devs, but one of them us an awful individual.
Now imagine being friends with a couple of the other 39, and hearing stories from one of them of still getting guilt-by-association online harassment over a year on. Pretty cool!

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

I'd donate money to a programmer to get a ROTT sourceport. ROTT is one of the few games that appreciated a good machine gun.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

SeANMcBAY posted:

What did the Hatred guys do other than make a stupid edgelord Postal 1 ripoff?

https://www.mobygames.com/company/destructive-creations

Now they are working on a stupid edgelord Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines clone and ROTT Remastered Resharted Reloaded

szary
Mar 12, 2014

SeANMcBAY posted:

What did the Hatred guys do other than make a stupid edgelord Postal 1 ripoff?

The CEO of that company is a big chud, plus apparently one other guy was seen wearing a nationalist t-shirt in some photo. They also made another game called "IS Defense", where you defend Europe against ISIS invaders, which is a chud dogwhistle in Europe.

Edit: oh, I guess you meant "what other games did they make" instead "what other hosed up poo poo did they do", nevermind then

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



laserghost posted:

https://www.mobygames.com/company/destructive-creations

Now they are working on a stupid edgelord Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines clone and ROTT Remastered Resharted Reloaded

I meant cancelable wise. I do want to play ROTT, especially on Switch, so it’s a conundrum...

szary posted:

The CEO of that company is a big chud, plus apparently one other guy was seen wearing a nationalist t-shirt in some photo. They also made another game called "IS Defense", where you defend Europe against ISIS invaders, which is a chud dogwhistle in Europe.

Edit: oh, I guess you meant "what other games did they make" instead "what other hosed up poo poo did they do", nevermind then

No, I did mean that. That’s some poo poo.:smith:

SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Sep 7, 2020

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh

Guillermus posted:

My issue is that I'm disconnected to social media (just log into FB to see some birthdays) and I often find that something that I enjoy or may like has some hosed up dude behind.

Some years ago we had the same shitheads making videogames and we didn't know about most of them. But now they're either more vocal or people investigate more. Right now getting a game is like a drat minefield and you become guilty if you actually like that game that was made by 40+ devs, but one of them us an awful individual.
You don't "become guilty" for liking a game with one lovely dev. I'm not sure anyone is clamoring to boycott Night In The Woods even though one of the main devs turned out to be an abuser, because the rest of the team cut ties with him which is about all they could do. The problem is when the company doubles down on the views or goes out of its way to cover for the lovely dev, which is the issue with Voidpoint and 3DRealms. IIRC after the original apology, a lot of people were willing to give Ion Fury a pass, but then they reversed course, doubled down on the "gently caress political correctness and gently caress you for trying to censor us" angle, swept the actual transphobic dev comments controversy under the rug, and pretended it was just about a couple of juvenile textures in the game. I'm assuming because they were afraid of being called soy boys on 4chan or whatever. And 3DRealms allowed them to do it. At the very least, they're the Joe Rogan of video game publishers.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.

The Kins posted:

Now imagine being friends with a couple of the other 39, and hearing stories from one of them of still getting guilt-by-association online harassment over a year on. Pretty cool!

I can't even imagine how lovely it must be working extremely hard on a project and doing a killer job on your end and then later questioning putting it on your resume because another person who isn't you said a thing on the internet one time.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

The Kins posted:

Now imagine being friends with a couple of the other 39, and hearing stories from one of them of still getting guilt-by-association online harassment over a year on. Pretty cool!

Aleksander "Cage" Kowalczyk can eat a huge fat turd straight from my rear end in a top hat, now matter how many projects he joins to hide his homophobic artwork. Or he can just admit guilt.

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1302820468819288066

You're going to have a beautiful healthy baby Doom Slayer.

koren
Sep 7, 2003

laserghost posted:

Aleksander "Cage" Kowalczyk can eat a huge fat turd straight from my rear end in a top hat, now matter how many projects he joins to hide his homophobic artwork. Or he can just admit guilt.
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laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Ion Fury's main artist.

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