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bobkatt013 posted:Also people in sting masks might be sting in disguise They may also be fans running into the main event.
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Bad Wolf posted:My favorite thing, that I only learned because OSW Review pointed it out, is that when they'd head to the ring together, Luger would be all smiles and high-fiving fans until the second Sting turned his back, then he'd go back to a classic heel entrance, only to revert to face if Sting happened to glance back at him. https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/778586830014906369
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That's the kind of morally complex, 'shades of gray' storytelling Vince Russo claimed for years he was trying to do but never once succeeded in.
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So my wrestling friends and I are planning a night of beers and the worst of the worst from 1999/2000 era WCW. What do you recommend, my good internet wrestling friends? Preferably matches/segments rather than full shows (I'm looking at you New Blood Rising). Also, anything involving Beetlejuice is mandatory viewing, my buddy has a thing for him.
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I feel like its been a while since I've seen a truly great promo. I know Cena and Braun have had some standout moments for me this year but what are some great 2017 promos? Non-WWE stuff would be appreciated
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chris daniels had an awfully good pretaped promo before his roh title win. callihan has had a couple good ones in aaw. thats all i got
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Super No Vacancy posted:chris daniels had an awfully good pretaped promo before his roh title win. callihan has had a couple good ones in aaw. thats all i got Is the Daniels one the same as the one before he and Kaz lost the tag belts or a different one? Because if it's different, the tag one is good too.
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schweens posted:I feel like its been a while since I've seen a truly great promo. I know Cena and Braun have had some standout moments for me this year but what are some great 2017 promos? Non-WWE stuff would be appreciated Enzo had two very good promos back-to-back on Raw and whichever PPV that was I can't remember there's so many please someone help.
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schweens posted:I feel like its been a while since I've seen a truly great promo. I know Cena and Braun have had some standout moments for me this year but what are some great 2017 promos? Non-WWE stuff would be appreciated https://twitter.com/NotThatTomGreen/status/909193614672240640
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juventud guerrera screams that even when he's not near a crowd though
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Dias posted:Enzo had two very good promos back-to-back on Raw and whichever PPV that was I can't remember there's so many please someone help. those promos, and especially Enzo not wearing merch while doing them, were honest to god great babyface fire promos that no one but Dean can really deliver in modern wwe. even cenas great work lately has relied on some kayfabe breaking and fan service, Enzo just went out there and crushed it, completely within the "rules". it's a shame he's such a poo poo wrestler.
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shiksa posted:those promos, and especially Enzo not wearing merch while doing them, were honest to god great babyface fire promos that no one but Dean can really deliver in modern wwe. even cenas great work lately has relied on some kayfabe breaking and fan service, Enzo just went out there and crushed it, completely within the "rules". Dean's promos from the time he built up to the title win (like honestly two years' worth, any time he was chasing the title) through the Dolph feud were so, so good. People forget it, but it was amazing work.
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His promos through the late ‘14 feud with Rollins were universally great. He could bring the fire, or he could squirt mustard in Joey Mercury’s face and throw sauerkraut around, and either way it would be great and get over huge with the crowd
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Dean's promos from the time he built up to the title win (like honestly two years' worth, any time he was chasing the title) through the Dolph feud were so, so good. People forget it, but it was amazing work. That promo he cut after Seth turned on the Shield was also incredible, just going out there and talking in detail about all the ways he was going to rearrange Seth's face. The language was clean and kid safe, yet at the same time, managed to be visceral and get across exactly how pissed off he was.
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Someone a page or two back mentioned how Vince cancelled a Blair Witch parody gimmick because he'd never heard of it and assumed nobody else had. We've all also heard about how he stopped Paul Burchill's pirate gimmick because he hadn't heard of Pirates of the Caribbean and didn't understand why a pirate would be a babyface. Are there any other examples of Vince nixing an idea because he didn't understand what it was referencing?
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Sandman McMahon posted:So my wrestling friends and I are planning a night of beers and the worst of the worst from 1999/2000 era WCW. What do you recommend, my good internet wrestling friends? Preferably matches/segments rather than full shows (I'm looking at you New Blood Rising). Also, anything involving Beetlejuice is mandatory viewing, my buddy has a thing for him. The San Francisco 49ers match between Booker T and Jeff Jarrett has both Beetlejuice and peak-2000 WCWisms.
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Jenny Angel posted:Someone a page or two back mentioned how Vince cancelled a Blair Witch parody gimmick because he'd never heard of it and assumed nobody else had. We've all also heard about how he stopped Paul Burchill's pirate gimmick because he hadn't heard of Pirates of the Caribbean and didn't understand why a pirate would be a babyface. Are there any other examples of Vince nixing an idea because he didn't understand what it was referencing? One of the writers has said Vince saw the movie and wanted a pirate but he didn't want that kind of pirate.
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Isn't there a story about Vince not knowing what a burrito is or something? It might not be a burrito, but something like that. Help me out here.
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tnimark posted:Isn't there a story about Vince not knowing what a burrito is or something? It might not be a burrito, but something like that. Help me out here. He eats steaks and ketchup wrapped in tortilla everyday and didn't realize he was essentially eating a burrito. MassRafTer posted:One of the writers has said Vince saw the movie and wanted a pirate but he didn't want that kind of pirate. That's the story I've heard as well. He wanted more of a Jean Pierre Lafitte style character.
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shiksa posted:those promos, and especially Enzo not wearing merch while doing them, were honest to god great babyface fire promos that no one but Dean can really deliver in modern wwe. even cenas great work lately has relied on some kayfabe breaking and fan service, Enzo just went out there and crushed it, completely within the "rules". The Cass break-up angle just killed him, it's sad to say. They booked him to act like a heel and Cass to act like the face while delivering the reverse in terms of promos and I still have no idea why. This is amazing.
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tnimark posted:Isn't there a story about Vince not knowing what a burrito is or something? It might not be a burrito, but something like that. Help me out here. 
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Scott hall tells a pretty good story about pulling the razor Ramon character together last minute with a Tony Montana impression, and Vince loving it, having never seen Scarface before. also I think it was max Landis? was working as a writer and was watching something on a flight, I think he said some stand up comedy or something, and Vince was like "why are you watching that? we've got comedy, we've got santino!" his sole consumption of media seems to be his own wrestling product, which is both kinda admirable and bonkers.
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Jenny Angel posted:Someone a page or two back mentioned how Vince cancelled a Blair Witch parody gimmick because he'd never heard of it and assumed nobody else had. We've all also heard about how he stopped Paul Burchill's pirate gimmick because he hadn't heard of Pirates of the Caribbean and didn't understand why a pirate would be a babyface. Are there any other examples of Vince nixing an idea because he didn't understand what it was referencing? There's a story about Metallica wanting to play at a PPV and Vince nixing the idea because he didn't want some no-name band performing. I think that's how the story went, anyway.
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shiksa posted:Scott hall tells a pretty good story about pulling the razor Ramon character together last minute with a Tony Montana impression, and Vince loving it, having never seen Scarface before. Freddie Prinze Jr
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CopywrightMMXI posted:That's the story I've heard as well. He wanted more of a Jean Pierre Lafitte style character. And he especially wanted Burchill to just be a pirate, rather than a guy who was dressing and acting like a pirate.
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Love that juice Dias posted:Enzo had two very good promos back-to-back on Raw and whichever PPV that was I can't remember there's so many please someone help. Forgot about these. Enzo killed it. It's a shame he's such a poo poo worker Super No Vacancy posted:chris daniels had an awfully good pretaped promo before his roh title win. callihan has had a couple good ones in aaw. thats all i got Yeah that Daniels promo was excellent. I looked up some of Sami's and he's so entertaining. Dude should have been a star in NXT. I'm happy he's flourishing back on the indies.
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shiksa posted:Scott hall tells a pretty good story about pulling the razor Ramon character together last minute with a Tony Montana impression, and Vince loving it, having never seen Scarface before. Vince goes to the movies fairly frequently, or at least he did as of a few years ago.
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Jerusalem posted:The Cass break-up angle just killed him, it's sad to say. They booked him to act like a heel and Cass to act like the face while delivering the reverse in terms of promos and I still have no idea why. because cass big
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It just occurred to me that I am so glad they got rid of BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s horrible reverse choke slam in exchange for the always awesome running power slam. The Running Power Slam is fourth in my list of Good Wrestling Moves 1) eye poke 2) back rake 3) Figure Four Leg Lock 4) Running Power Slam 5) Hold up legs by the feet and head butt/elbow the "stomach" 6) Atomic Drop 7) Reverse Atomic Drop 8) off the top-rope double ax handle 9) foreign object in the pants 10) unknown powder blown into face
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MassRafTer posted:Vince goes to the movies fairly frequently, or at least he did as of a few years ago. is there a dollar theater outside of wwe headquarters that only plays movies like 3 years after their release date because that would explain a lot.
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Platypus Farm posted:It just occurred to me that I am so glad they got rid of BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s horrible reverse choke slam in exchange for the always awesome running power slam. The Running Power Slam is fourth in my list of Good Wrestling Moves No dick shot in the top 10? Get the gently caress out of here
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Not to mention a distressing lack of log roll takedowns, hypnotism, and the apportation of an opponent's underwear.
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Halloween Jack posted:Not to mention a distressing lack of log roll takedowns, hypnotism, and the apportation of an opponent's underwear. He put powder on there instead of mist. What a jabroni
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What about that thing where a guy is seated on the mat and his opponent jumps over him from behind, grabbing his head and dragging it forward. Also the Lady of the Lake. List is some bullshit, all I'm saying.
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I think that was called "Cattle Branding," at least when the West Texas Rednecks did it.
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schweens posted:I feel like its been a while since I've seen a truly great promo. I know Cena and Braun have had some standout moments for me this year but what are some great 2017 promos? Non-WWE stuff would be appreciated Heidi Lovelace/Ruby Riot cut a really good promo for her last match in Chikara as part of this year's secret season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ZUKU1lgSw
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Mr. Perfect always managed to make that rolling neck snap look like death
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schweens posted:I feel like its been a while since I've seen a truly great promo. I know Cena and Braun have had some standout moments for me this year but what are some great 2017 promos? Non-WWE stuff would be appreciated This year's G1 press conference was pretty great.
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