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Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Yeah Malthus is going to be mainstream in 60 years. Thankfully it'll be the people who caused the problem debating his merit!

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

WampaLord posted:

How's Sweden doing?

Just as on the neoliberal train and the populist crash as the rest of the world since the 80's, we just started from a better position.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Submarine Sandpaper posted:

Yeah Malthus is going to be mainstream in 60 years. Thankfully it'll be the people who caused the problem debating his merit!

- a hot take made by smart people for the last 160 years

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.
Yeah if we enter a Malthusian era of population constraint I'll take a wild swing and say that climate change disrupting weather patterns and loving up agriculture will be the cause more than runaway population growth

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Climate refugees will be left to die by the thousands and even the millions when regions start becoming increasingly uninhabitable. "Woke" first worlders will respond with the rage react when they see the stories on Facebook and not much else. These things will happen without any mention of Malthus.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

DrNutt posted:

Climate refugees will be left to die by the thousands and even the millions when regions start becoming increasingly uninhabitable. "Woke" first worlders will respond with the rage react when they see the stories on Facebook and not much else. These things will happen without any mention of Malthus.

border walls will become a fashionable national investment

the only question is: in the age of privatisation and neoliberalism, will it take longer to call for bids and get lovely contractors to build the flimsiest contractually permitted wall than it will take a billion people to walk into europe?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

DrNutt posted:

Climate refugees will be left to die by the thousands and even the millions when regions start becoming increasingly uninhabitable. "Woke" first worlders will respond with the rage react when they see the stories on Facebook and not much else. These things will happen without any mention of Malthus.

Why doesn't Palau just move? They have over 50 years of notice at this point.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

suck my woke dick posted:

- a hot take made by smart people for the last 160 years

In general 160 years is not a long time at all. If I predict the end of the world and I'm only off by a few hundred years, in the grand scheme of things I'm pretty on the ball.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Mozi posted:

In general 160 years is not a long time at all. If I predict the end of the world and I'm only off by a few hundred years, in the grand scheme of things I'm pretty on the ball.
no, that's dumb

"Capitalism will collapse, and it'll definitely collapse by the end of the year!"

[250 years later, Star Trek Luxury Space Communism becomes the norm]

"Aha! I was right!"

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Marx was off by a little while but I wouldn't say he was wrong about the overall forces and trends at work, which are what ultimately are important.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Mozi posted:

Marx was off by a little while but I wouldn't say he was wrong about the overall forces and trends at work, which are what ultimately are important.

Marx also thought Malthus was a hand wringing bourgie class enemy who had no clue.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

BrandorKP posted:

Bunch of South Asian nations have subsidized shipyards. Shipyard economics are such that you want to keep them operating to make money. Steel is cheap and subsidized by some nations. Some vessel ownership became financialized after 2008 crash. Lines over bought. Economies of scale are forcing them to continue over buying. Bigger is cheaper both in ships and the companies. Two (one openly) of the big lines are trying to drive the smaller lines out of business. All the small lines are merging or failing. Expected growth in international trade has not materialized.

Basically it's get bigger or die right now. Getting bigger also makes everything worse for all the shipping lines freight rate wise.

That's the phone post version. I did my grad school work on this. Give me several days and I'll post some of that. I haven't posted from a computer in forever.

Why does this effect retail? Everything is made everywhere. Supply chains are truly international anymore. Nobody really has inventory anymore. It's all in transit, just in time on the containerships.

Word! Thank you for the synopsis! :D

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.
If we're gonna talk about climate refugees, I'm gonna post this link and you can ruin a good mood by reading it

https://libcom.org/blog/refuges-death-worlds-25112016

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

prisoner of waffles posted:

If we're gonna talk about climate refugees, I'm gonna post this link and you can ruin a good mood by reading it

https://libcom.org/blog/refuges-death-worlds-25112016

I would say 99% of this is obvious and if you're not at least vaguely aware of the potential for climate change related mass murder at the border wall you must have lived under a rock for the last decade. The only point I disagree with is the part about necropolitics, because it implies the mass murder will be part of a planned policy designed with a minimum of forethought rather than the effect of incoherent scrambling by overwhelmed neoliberal politicians who settle on "start killing people" as the path of least resistance in totally shocking and unforeseen (read: actually predictable if your thinking extends beyond quarterly profits) circumstances that they can't micromanage their way out of.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
I remember when I saw the trailer for World War Z, and there's that shot of the zombies piling up over each other to get over a wall. Before I knew what the movie was, I assumed that was a dramatization of what's going to happen to 90% of the people on Earth when the poo poo hits the fan.

90s Rememberer
Nov 30, 2017

by R. Guyovich

suck my woke dick posted:

it implies the mass murder will be part of a planned policy designed with a minimum of forethought

i dunno we have this now and it doesn't seem to be too morally taxing on these people

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
Meanwhile, it's like clockwork :

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-nlrb/worker-testifies-that-tesla-stopped-him-from-organizing-union-idUSKBN1J803Z

quote:

OAKLAND, Calif (Reuters) - A Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) employee organizing a union was asked by a supervisor and company security guards to leave the factory after handing out pro-union flyers, the worker said at a National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) hearing on Monday over whether Tesla had violated federal safeguards for employee activity.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


Cicero posted:

I'm not defending destroying the planet, actually. Try reading what I wrote rather than relying on what you imagined in your head?

We assumed you were replying to our posts instead of making the common mistake of inventing a question you can answer.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

The rainforest cafe at downtown disney is closing, leaving only 1 left in the state of CA at the lovely ontario mills mall.

How is that company still in business?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

FCKGW posted:

The rainforest cafe at downtown disney is closing, leaving only 1 left in the state of CA at the lovely ontario mills mall.

How is that company still in business?

Children who don't know better, and adults with bad taste.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

skooma512 posted:

Children who don't know better, and adults with bad taste.

then how in the world did the one next to disneyland go out of business ?!?!?!?

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

FCKGW posted:

How is that company still in business?

The fact that FYE is still in business is more shocking to me.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

FCKGW posted:

then how in the world did the one next to disneyland go out of business ?!?!?!?

Couldn’t compete with regurgitating a hot dog on Splash Mountain.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

skooma512 posted:

Children who don't know better, and adults with bad taste.

Yeah when the one in Chicago closes, thats when theyre done.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

Barudak posted:

Yeah when the one in Chicago closes, thats when theyre done.

Hey, Edison NJ is still a thing, pal.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!
Kroger pulling out of the Raleigh/Durham market as Publix and Wegmans move in, although a bit over half of the former stores will be converted into Harris Teeters (which Kroger owns).

https://www.newsobserver.com/latest-news/article213090544.html

OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 15, 2018

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

FCKGW posted:

The rainforest cafe at downtown disney is closing, leaving only 1 left in the state of CA at the lovely ontario mills mall.

How is that company still in business?

Rain Forest Cafe is just one restaurant in the portfolio of a much larger company, Landry's. Landry's owns a lot of restaurants, casinos, and and hotels.

Edit: But really why the hell does Rain Forest Cafe still exist. Each one I have seen has terrible service, food, and reviews.

Deadly Ham Sandwich fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jun 15, 2018

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

OneEightHundred posted:

Kroger pulling out of the Raleigh/Durham market as Publix and Wegmans move in, although a bit over half of the former stores will be converted into Harris Teeters (which Kroger owns).

https://www.newsobserver.com/latest-news/article213090544.html

the grocery store market is ridiculous. there are like twelve grocery stores within a mile of my house, eight corporate stores and four independent niche stores

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

Rain Forest Cafe is just one restaurant in the portfolio of a much larger company, Landry's. Landry's owns a lot of restaurants, casinos, and and hotels.

Edit: But really why the hell does Rain Forest Cafe still exist. Each one I have seen has terrible service, food, and reviews.

Rain Forest Cafe is Matthew Mcougnahey’s character from Dazed and Confused but about idiot children

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
Does the one at Disney World have dinosaurs? If I was eight and had a choice between dinosaur restaurant and some famous chef I'd never heard of, I'd pick the giant lizards.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




TyroneGoldstein posted:

Word! Thank you for the synopsis! :D



Here's a drawing of what I think is going on. Sorry it took so long.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

BrandorKP posted:



Here's a drawing of what I think is going on. Sorry it took so long.

Vicky 3 design doc's looking good.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I've posted this a bunch of times but if you have a facebook go settings->ads->your interests to see what the great machine god has determined your human hobbies are.

Like, it'll get a few things pretty well but it seems to not even miss the base on what you personally might like but seems to be wildly uncalibrated towards what a human is or does.

Like here is my supposed list of hobbies, it starts out pretty solid, I guess, but pretty much falls into beyond nonsense pretty quick. my hobby is "leaf"?


I'm Chicken

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

BrandorKP posted:



Here's a drawing of what I think is going on. Sorry it took so long.

Is this Jordan B. Peterson

Tnega
Oct 26, 2010

Pillbug

Neon Noodle posted:

Is this Jordan B. Peterson

No, he is just explaining how the interconnected systems in global shipping affect milk prices. The milk is fortified with what the world wants, what the world deserves. Well, that and melamine.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Tariffs are going to hit world demand for container freight.

If we get line failures because world demand for container freight falls off and capacity gets reduced ( instead of absorbed) this will cause freight rates to go up. Then everything gets more expensive. Right now the marine transportation leg is cheap as poo poo. If that changes all those global supply chains for everything manufactured become more expensive. The margins for retailers get smaller.

The questions are degree, severity and timeframe.

This is explicitly one of the intents of the tariffs btw as proposed by the Bannon /Miller crowd. Think of a factory. That factory basically has distance around it within which it's good are competitive because of transportation costs. Right now that distance is huge once you get poo poo onto a container ship. Its basically the whole world.

This could change and possibly abruptly.

90s Rememberer
Nov 30, 2017

by R. Guyovich

BrandorKP posted:



Here's a drawing of what I think is going on. Sorry it took so long.

real question is where is pepe silvia

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

there wolf posted:

Does the one at Disney World have dinosaurs? If I was eight and had a choice between dinosaur restaurant and some famous chef I'd never heard of, I'd pick the giant lizards.

there is a dinosaur-based Rainforest Cafe-esque restaurant at Disney Springs in Florida. It's called T. Rex.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




self unaware posted:

real question is where is pepe silvia

Except, tracing systems is something I'm trained to do. As an undergrad I had to follow all the piping in an engine room and produce diagrams of the various systems and thier states during operation. This is a very simple one actually. You ever seen a steam cycle?

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90s Rememberer
Nov 30, 2017

by R. Guyovich

BrandorKP posted:

Except, tracing systems is something I'm trained to do. As an undergrad I had to follow all the piping in an engine room and produce diagrams of the various systems and thier states during operation. This is a very simple one actually. You ever seen a steam cycle?

i think most people here are well aware that business school is a joke

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