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RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart

U.T. Raptor posted:

I wish they'd at least make a 3d version of Ecco: Tides of Time to match the 3d version of the first game already in the 3DS eshop, because Tides of Time is by far the better game.

This but Streets of Rage 2, which would then be the best game on the entire eshop.

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Katana Gomai
Jan 14, 2007

"Thus," concluded Miyamoto, "you must give up everything you have to be my disciple."

The Kins posted:

You still have to buy dev hardware. It's a lot cheaper than on other platforms, if what I've heard is right, but we're still talking "powerful gaming PC" level pricetags.

One look at Steam Greenlight makes me appreciate the barrier of entry tbh. "powerful gaming PC" level pricetag doesn't even sound that much if you're actually serious about developing a game.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
You don't necessarily even need to buy a dev kit upfront if you wanna develop for Wii U; if they decide you're not a complete fuckup they can give you a dev unit on consignment and let you pay it off by taking a royalty on your games. If you sign up to make something with NWF (html5/javascript and associated middleware like Construct 2) you can get pretty far without even having a dev kit, but you will need one at some point.

The other big money-saver on Wii U is that Nintendo covers the cost of both a Unity Pro license and the publishing fee associated with deploying on consoles, so if you have a Unity game that's running on Wii U it'll cost you very little to release on the eShop. All the current-gen consoles have good Unity deals (or claim to, I don't know that MS's deal is even active yet) but Nintendo's is unambiguously the most generous of the three, which is crazy to think about considering how they sucked for so long.

3DS is different: you absolutely need a dev unit, and there's none of the amateur-friendly middleware that Meme Run-tier developers depend on to crank out bad games, so it's segregated from most of the garbage just by virtue of the fact that it's not really open to anyone who can't write their own code (or afford to hire someone to do it for them).

New 3DS does support HTML5 to a limited extent but Nintendo's still not talking about what that means for indies.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
I'm selling a $35 Nintendo eShop card for $31.50, if that's a thing that interests anyone.

ANIME MONSTROSITY
Jun 1, 2012

by XyloJW
Also, boob games are huge money pushers.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
PAL update (week of January 8):

quote:

WII U eSHOP DOWNLOADS
    Chariot - €14.99 / £13.49
    Underground - €19.99 / £15.99
    Crunchyroll (VOD app, includes free 14-day trial)
WII U VIRTUAL CONSOLE
    Dig Dug (NES, US ver.) - €4.99 / £3.49
    Lode Runner (NES, US ver.) - €4.99 / £3.49
WII U SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Buy NSMBU digitally, get Luigi U for free! - runs until January 8
    Toki Tori 2+ (Wii U eShop) - €2.99 / £2.49 until January 7
    Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Wii U) - €29.99 / £24.99 until January 8
    Shovel Knight (Wii U eShop) - €9.99 / £8.66 until January 8
    Armillo (Wii U eShop) - €3.00 / £2.75 until January 8
    Art of Balance (Wii U eShop) - €6.70 / £5.35 until January 8
    Little Inferno (Wii U eShop) - €4.99 / £4.49 until January 8
    Nano Assault Neo (Wii U eShop) - €7.49 / £6.70 until January 8
    Darts Up (Wii U eShop) - €1.49 / £1.34 until January 8
    Gravity Badgers (Wii U eShop) - €1.99 / £1.99 until January 8
    Master Reboot (Wii U eShop) - €4.79 / £3.99 until January 8
    Turtle Tale (Wii U eShop) - €1.99 / £1.65 until January 8
    TNI Racing: Nitro Machines Edition (Wii U eShop) - €4.99 / £4.49 until January 8
    Rock Zombie (Wii U) - €4.89 / £4.29 until January 15
    Fit Music for Wii U (Wii U) - €14.90 / £12.40 until January 30
    Luv Me Buddies Wonderland (Wii U) - €14.90 / £12.40 until January 30
    Paper Monsters Recut (Wii U eShop) - €3.29 / £2.79 until January 15
    Tested by Robots (Wii U eShop) - €5.00 / £4.50 until January 15
    Toki Tori (Wii U eShop) - €0.99 / £0.89 until January 21
    EDGE (Wii U eShop) - €0.99 / £0.89 until January 21
    Rush (Wii U eShop) - €0.99 / £0.89 until January 21
    Cubemen 2 (Wii U eShop) - €4.99 / £4.49 until January 22
    Tetrobot & Co. (Wii U eShop) - €4.99 / £3.74 for owners of Kung Fu Rabbit, Puddle or Wooden Sen'SeY until January 22
    Kung Fu Rabbit. (Wii U eShop) - €2.49 / £2.24 for owners of Kung Fu Rabbit, Puddle or Wooden Sen'SeY until January 22
    Tetrobot & Co. (Wii U eShop) - €3.49 / £3.14 for owners of Kung Fu Rabbit, Puddle or Wooden Sen'SeY until January 22
    Tetrobot & Co. (Wii U eShop) - €4.99 / £4.00 for owners of Kung Fu Rabbit, Puddle or Wooden Sen'SeY until January 22
    Trine 2: Directors' Cut (Wii U eShop) - €8.49 / £6.99 until January 25

3DS RETAIL DOWNLOADS
    TMNT - €39.99 / £29.99
3DS eSHOP DOWNLOADS
    Classic Card Games - €6.99 / £4.99
3DS MENU THEMES
    Game & Watch (Colourful) - €1.99 / £1.79
    Super Mario (Wooden World) - €1.99 / £1.79
    Zelda Skyward Sword: The Impending Battle - €1.99 / £1.79
3DS SALES/PROMOTIONS
    Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (3DS) - €22.49 / £19.99 until January 8
    Shovel Knight (Wii U eShop) - €9.99 / £8.66 until January 8
    eskapeVektor (3DS eShop) - €2.49 / £2.99 until January 8
    Rage of the Gladiator (3DS eShop) - €3.49 / £3.09 until January 8
    Art of Balance TOUCH! (3DS eShop) - €5.20 / £4.70 until January 8
    Darts Up (3DS eShop) - €0.99 / £0.89 until January 8
    Demon King Box (3DS eShop) - €2.99 / £2.19 until January 8
    European Conqueror 3D (3DS eShop) - €1.99 / £1.49 until January 8
    Football Up 3D (3DS eShop) - €1.99 / £1.56 until January 8
    Football Up Online (3DS eShop) - €2.99 / £2.69 until January 8
    Fun! Fun! Minigolf TOUCH (3DS eShop) - €2.20 / £1.85 until January 8
    Fractured Soul (3DS eShop) - €2.49 / £1.99 until January 8
    Glory of General 3D (3DS eShop) - €6.99 / £5.99 until January 8
    Jett Rockett 2: Wrath of Taikai (3DS eShop) - €6.70 / £5.70 until January 8
    KORG DSN-12 (3DS eShop) - €14.99 / £12.49 until January 8
    KORG M01D (3DS eShop) - €12.49 / £9.99 until January 8
    Nano Assault EX (3DS eShop) - €7.49 / £6.35 until January 8
    KORG DSN-12 (3DS eShop) - €14.99 / £12.49 until January 8
    Turtle Tale (3DS eShop) - €1.99 / £1.65 until January 8
    Winter Sports 2012 - Feel the Spirit (3DS eShop) - €5.99 / £5.39 until January 8
    EDGE (3DS eShop) - €0.99 / £0.89 until January 21
    Coaster Creator 3D (3DS eShop) - €5.00 / £4.00 until January 22
    Cubit the Hardcore Platformer Robot (3DS eShop) - €1.99 / £1.80 until February 8

Chariot's supposed to be okay, I think? It's been out on other platforms for a little while.

Healbot
Jul 7, 2006

very very very fucjable
very vywr very


ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:

Also, boob games are huge money pushers.

They're getting off the (boob)shelves fast, that's for sure.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
NOE's site has 3D Afterburner 2 listed for January 15. It begins!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Sonic 2 and streets of rage II, please sega, PLEASE!!!

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
We already know the contents of the second series: Afterburner, Outrun, Fantasy Zone, Fantasy Zone 2 DX, Thunder Blade. They've been out in Japan for a while now.

A third series is dependent on the reception of the retail package in Japan and the sales of the second series internationally.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Last I looked, the retail pack was somewhere on the 30~ position in the weekly sales chart of Japan. Without a number of units sold listed though I have no idea if that's good or bad. At least it's not completely ignored?

The T
May 29, 2010

A sufficiently chaotic system is maximally fair.

Give me 3D Sonic Spinball and 3D Art Alive.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!
Outrunners, Sonic 2, Ecco 2, Gunstar Heroes, Dynamite Headdy, Streets of Rage 2, and Zaxxon would make a wonderful Series 3, if it ever had a chance of happening.

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*
As great as they would be I don't think Sega can release Dynamite Headdy or Gunstar without Treasure's okay (Which I doubt they'd be against doing, but still).

But yeah, hell if Series 3 was just Streets of Rage 2 and nothing else I'd be down for that.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Sega owns all that old Treasure stuff; the only games Treasure owns outright are Ikaruga, Radiant Silvergun, Bangai-O and GOTY All Years Stretch Panic.

They've expressed interest in doing both Gunstar Heroes and Power Drift, an arcade kart racer that ran on the same crazy 2D scaling hardware as Galaxy Force:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eisCeK0HX8A

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


I'm still pretty pissed Guardian Heroes got stuck in loving XBLA instead of somewhere more sane like Steam.

I'd buy Dynamite Headdy 3D, though.

Brasseye
Feb 13, 2009

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Sonic 2 and streets of rage II, please sega, PLEASE!!!

These and gunstar heroes would be the best thing ever.

BiggerJ
May 21, 2007

What shall we do with him? A permaban, perhaps? Probate him for a few years? Or...shall we employ a big red custom title? You, the goons of SA, shall decide his fate.

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Sega owns all that old Treasure stuff; the only games Treasure owns outright are Ikaruga, Radiant Silvergun, Bangai-O and GOTY All Years Stretch Panic.

They've expressed interest in doing both Gunstar Heroes and Power Drift, an arcade kart racer that ran on the same crazy 2D scaling hardware as Galaxy Force:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eisCeK0HX8A

Who owns Mischief Makers?

Champeenship
Oct 9, 2012
I'm pretty sure Enix at least co-owned the rights to Mischief Makers.

What I'm saying is, don't get your hopes up.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Sega owns all that old Treasure stuff; the only games Treasure owns outright are Ikaruga, Radiant Silvergun, Bangai-O and GOTY All Years Stretch Panic.

They've expressed interest in doing both Gunstar Heroes and Power Drift, an arcade kart racer that ran on the same crazy 2D scaling hardware as Galaxy Force:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eisCeK0HX8A

I would like to see a lot of those old, weird 2D-scaling-quasi-3D games released on the 3DS with 3D conversions. Man that would be trippy.

EDIT: Space Harrier 3D rules.

Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 6, 2015

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




There are so many missed opportunities on the 3ds. Any older fps, basically, older racing games, anything polygon based, can you imagine something like Descent on 3ds?

There are a lot of good opportunities that devs either are ignoring or are unaware of. This is why I really hope the homebrew scene takes off someday on 3ds, I want to see what awesome stuff gets ported to 3d.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

There are so many missed opportunities on the 3ds. Any older fps, basically, older racing games, anything polygon based, can you imagine something like Descent on 3ds?

There are a lot of good opportunities that devs either are ignoring or are unaware of. This is why I really hope the homebrew scene takes off someday on 3ds, I want to see what awesome stuff gets ported to 3d.

Absolutely. Doom really holds up, and would be amazing with 3D. It even has sprite-based enemies (assuming PC version rather than Doom 64) so I can't imagine it would be too hard from a technical standpoint.

Personally I'm also baffled as to why there haven't been more entries in the "3D Classics" line. Like, I got my 3DS relatively late, and just assumed I could buy a 3D version of Super Mario Bros. but nope.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy
I really wish more devs would get onboard with the cool 3D effect honestly. 3D netflix support would own. Also, pornography.

Kaubocks
Apr 13, 2011

Stan Taylor posted:

I really wish more devs would get onboard with the cool 3D effect honestly. 3D netflix support would own. Also, pornography.

We already have Senran Kagura though.

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

By the way, the Slowpoke menu theme is on the NA eshop.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

mabels big day posted:

By the way, the Slowpoke menu theme is on the NA eshop.

It's only the instrumentals with the "Yan" as the sound effect when you move the cursor. Still owns though.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Kaubocks posted:

We already have Senran Kagura though.

I have a firm "no jerking it to cartoons" stance.

Katana Gomai
Jan 14, 2007

"Thus," concluded Miyamoto, "you must give up everything you have to be my disciple."

Minidust posted:

Absolutely. Doom really holds up, and would be amazing with 3D. It even has sprite-based enemies (assuming PC version rather than Doom 64) so I can't imagine it would be too hard from a technical standpoint.

How many more times do you want to play Doom?!

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Minidust posted:

Absolutely. Doom really holds up, and would be amazing with 3D.

Doom is the 3DS game I didn't realize I wanted until just now and I'm kinda shocked it hasn't happened. There was a point in time where it was being ported to everything up to and including a printer, but I guess they stopped at some point?

Katana Gomai posted:

How many more times do you want to play Doom?!

Until I actually beat it

Healbot
Jul 7, 2006

very very very fucjable
very vywr very


Kaubocks posted:

We already have Senran Kagura though.

I wasn't aware the videogame equivalent of a bikini calendar was pornography.

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

Katana Gomai posted:

How many more times do you want to play Doom?!

I don't think there's an upper limit, actually. The game has proved pretty much infinitely replayable.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'

SatansBestBuddy posted:

Doom is the 3DS game I didn't realize I wanted until just now and I'm kinda shocked it hasn't happened. There was a point in time where it was being ported to everything up to and including a printer, but I guess they stopped at some point?
I am unironically longing to be huddled over my 3DS with headphones in a dark room, blasting imps in 3D corridors. Same exact 1994 graphics too; just frame it in widescreen and it would look perfect on a tiny 3D display. Make it happen. Somebody. :(

Kaubocks
Apr 13, 2011

Stan Taylor posted:

I have a firm "no jerking it to cartoons" stance.

you gotta live a little man

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Stan Taylor posted:

I have a firm "no jerking it to cartoons" stance.

look at this loser, what a fail

Katana Gomai
Jan 14, 2007

"Thus," concluded Miyamoto, "you must give up everything you have to be my disciple."

Healbot posted:

I wasn't aware the videogame equivalent of a bikini calendar was pornography.

"...in AMERICA!"

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Kaubocks posted:

you gotta live a little man

Yeah. Cmon, once in a blue moon is perfectly fine.

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012
Any good Lego Games on the 3ds?

Also do most used games still have the registration codes for Nintendo power? I need them points lol

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Also do most used games still have the registration codes for Nintendo power? I need them points lol

You're completely rolling the dice with used games. The previous owner or somebody in the store could well have used the codes. In fact it's probably pretty likely that they did. If you want codes you're better off buying new.

Astro Nut
Feb 22, 2013

Nonsensical Space Powers, Activate! Form of Friendship!

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Any good Lego Games on the 3ds?

Also do most used games still have the registration codes for Nintendo power? I need them points lol

You've got the flavours of City Undercover, Hobbit, and the Movie.

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Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012

Astro Nut posted:

You've got the flavours of City Undercover, Hobbit, and the Movie.

I heard the batman one was a drat good port outside of like Adam west Kevin Smith and others don't make an appearance.
Anyone disagree?

And wow I lucked out than. First used game I bought had the code and it worked. Assumed the codes could be used more than once but in hindsight that would be terrible
People would just post them online. Dammit I just redid my gamestop bullshit too

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