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ManMythLegend posted:So what happens if you copy an Awakened Part the Waterveil? iirc extra costs like awaken or kicker don't add to the CMC Edit: also from the rulings for Fork; 10/4/2004 When a spell with additional costs is copied, you don’t have to pay those costs again. lazerwolf fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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myDad posted:Try Mystic Retrieval if you can find a slot for it, Splendid Valakut is great shenanigans At that point I think I'd run more E-Witnesses TBH, I'd be too concerned with having Retrieval stuck in my hand with no way to cast it and only one card maindeck that lets me discard non-lands.
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lazerwolf posted:iirc extra costs like awaken or kicker don't add to the CMC This is why Pyromancer's Goggles + Tormenting Voice was so sick back in Origins. That was probably my favorite super standard just from all the janky combos that were available.
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This is actually really good. It's going to attack as probably a 4/4 on T4 most of the time... I think it's constructed playable.
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Love the design on that card, and it looks very powerful just on its own, not even taking into account synergies. Stuff like Vizier of Remedies, Nest of Scarabs, Gryff's Boon, Decimator Beetle, etc.
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GB energy might just want to play this over Rishkar... Or Mardu might want to play it over Thalia. It's a super aggressive card.
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I don't think you'd want to put this card in the same deck as Winding Constrictor...
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Gustav posted:I don't think you'd want to put this card in the same deck as Winding Constrictor... Yeah but I mean to say, the deck might move away from the snake if it's not playing Rishkar. Idk if that is the case but this card is powerful enough to ask the question.
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Dies to Grasp.. I like it though, flickering with Displacer or the new angel might be good.
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Zombie crocodile demon.
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but I mean to say, the deck might move away from the snake if it's not playing Rishkar. Idk if that is the case but this card is powerful enough to ask the question. Seems like it wants to be paired up with Rhonas and Hapatra, assuming I understand that interaction correctly.
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refuse to cooperate seems pretty bad, zombie crocodile demon seems fine
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https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/879347295048933377
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This would've been annoying with Marvel.
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mcmagic posted:This would've been annoying with Marvel. It would've made the mirror even more of an arms race.
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That new guy that prevents -1/-1 counters works with this, I think. Could be sweet?
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Another tutor target for my Modern Enchantress deck 
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C-Euro posted:Another tutor target for my Modern Enchantress deck this is more an enduring ideal card than an enchantress card
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Yeah that seems like a ridiculous card off of Ideal
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Not seen this mentioned yet: http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/khenraeternal.html Khenra Eternal 1B Creature - Zombie Jackal Warrior Afflict 1 Not terribly exciting except there is a 2CMC gap in most Zombie tribal decks right now. I don't know if Ammet makes it into current versions of the decks but I think there is now enough left that it might remain a deck after rotation, as much as it will miss Cryptbreaker.
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I have Nykthos in my build as a fake Serra's Sanctum. On second thought it might be better as SB material but yes it looks rad in Enduring Ideal. Also it looks to be unplayable outside of those kinds of decks so it will be cheap enough to play around with on a whim.
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 I, for one, cannot wait to lose to t2 binding mummy t3 this
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Elyv posted:
That art looks loving sweet.
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So far this set is looking crazy aggressive
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Oh look a demon with a downside
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Elyv posted:
Well hello there. This easily slots into bw zombies, and I think the zombie croc demon is playable but probably not a strictly better option than what's available right now. The downside is real but it lives through most sweepers and makes it easy to connect one way or the other.
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Question on Cooperate. Does it copy the "X" value on cards? If my opponent casts pull from tomorrow using 6 mana can I use Cooperate to copy it, target myself and draw 4 cards?
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Well hello there. If this card is playable in standard I will be shocked. It is useful in exactly the scenario where you are both playing creature decks and you are on the offensive while also being an inefficient 3 drop, meaning it's bad if in other situations. It's going to murder you in draft sometimes, though. Tainen posted:Question on Cooperate. Does it copy the "X" The value of X for cards is 0 in all places but the stack, so yes. If you cast Cooperate on a Pull for 4 you will draw 4 cards and discard 1.
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i don't think Refuse is especially powerful but it is a cool as heck effect and so I love it also more copy spells is always cool. so I don't think this card is especially good but I'm happy it exists anyway
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Can you use both in the same turn to double the CMC damage?
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TheKingofSprings posted:Oh look a demon with a downside a demon with a downside that's actually interesting and cool even, top tier design
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Tainen posted:Can you use both in the same turn to double the CMC damage? You can use both in the same turn, but it won't double the damage because Refuse has to resolve before the spell can hit the yard and let you cast Cooperate.
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This seems like something that's going to make us wish that it was a 5/4 after it gets played with for a bit.
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The thing that interests me about this is that, between it and Geistblast, you can have eight copies of "2U, exile from your graveyard: copy one of your spells" in Standard. I'm not sure if there's anything worth doing with it, but any time you can get eight of an unusual effect it's worth thinking about.
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What spells are worth copying in Standard? U/R Part the Waterveil?
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Elyv posted:
Wow that sucks.
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Does it actually suck that badly? It occurs the turn you play it so it generates immediate value at least E: it reminds me of that Dragon's Maze (Gatecrash?) rare that creates hasty soldier tokens TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 26, 2017 |
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It actually works really well with Gate to the Afterlife since you can use the latter to loot away the former until you can profitably use the activated ability to bring it back.
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