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Bentai posted:Normalization of deviance is such an awful thing. Speaking of: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust
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Good luck maneuvering on the ramp. Guess all of the support vehicles have to leave the area so luggage carts don't get blown into the terminal!
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PainterofCrap posted:Good luck maneuvering on the ramp. Guess all of the support vehicles have to leave the area so luggage carts don't get blown into the terminal! It's actually only autobrakes that have been disabled. The original articles just said brakes which wasn't quite true. You know things are bad when you start to disable parts of your takeoff abort systems.
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fknlo posted:It's always a good feeling when you're able to convince them to do something other than kill themselves but it seems to be a rarity when that happens. And it very much turns into the thing where it reinforces the behavior because it turned out fine the last time. I’ve actually used the term “two hundred mile long, twenty mile wide wall of death” on frequency to ward off a GA pilot who “just wanted to try it.”
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Mortabis posted:The thought that most accidents in general aviation are the result of avoidable carelessness is only somewhat comforting to me. I can be careless at times as well. I think I'm pretty good at following procedures assiduously and being cautious in high stakes situations, but I bet a lot of the guys who died in base to final spins thought that too. yeah, i feel the same way. the idea that those risks somehow don't count for me, because i'm the smart and savvy main character who never makes mistakes, is weird. like, sure, some people out there really are Ice McSkillson, Cool Under Fire or whatever, but I on the other hand am a huge dumbass
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Safety Dance posted:
They did. It was only like a $500 cash award or something but it's better than nothing. MrYenko posted:I’ve actually used the term “two hundred mile long, twenty mile wide wall of death” on frequency to ward off a GA pilot who “just wanted to try it.” Yup, and it's always fun to tell a relieving controller offline that one particular guy is trying to kill themselves when you've laid it out like that and they just keep on trucking. It shouldn't be a relief when they actually listen to you.
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So about a month ago I had the fortune to visit the Edenvale Aerodrome about 90 minutes NW of Toronto, where some enterprising AvGeeks have managed to cobble together a 1:1 scale replica of Avro Arrow RL 203. I took a video of not only the presentation part of the "tour" but also detailed close-ups of the replica itself. Since it's the only place you can go to actually get a sense of the *scale* of the thing (and apparently quite a few original Avro engineers had hands in making it as "authentic" as budget and time allowed), it definitely rated a visit. Here's a Google Drive link to the 25-minute long video (~4GB in size, a little shaky at first, walkaround starts ~20m in): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DcoFjEQhFg7iwmzlthBj9qxwoGEZCFjP/view?usp=sharing BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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Aug 8, 2023 21:49
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Bondematt posted:You know things are bad when you start to disable parts of your takeoff abort systems. One way or another, that plane isn’t going to need brakes anymore.
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Aug 8, 2023 22:33
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OMGVBFLOL posted:yeah, i feel the same way. the idea that those risks somehow don't count for me, because i'm the smart and savvy main character who never makes mistakes, is weird. like, sure, some people out there really are Ice McSkillson, Cool Under Fire or whatever, but I on the other hand am a huge dumbass Mortabis posted:The thought that most accidents in general aviation are the result of avoidable carelessness is only somewhat comforting to me. I can be careless at times as well. I think I'm pretty good at following procedures assiduously and being cautious in high stakes situations, but I bet a lot of the guys who died in base to final spins thought that too. Well, the important thing to remember is: everyone is a huge dumbass, everyone makes errors all the time. Your safety system has to account for that, not work on the assumption that you can reduce errors to zero. You operate, ideally, with such a safety margin that many things could go wrong and you won't die -- because, occasionally, many things will go wrong whether it's your fault or not. When I started instructing on the Seneca, my boss said: "final exam: what are your two responsibilities flying this aircraft?" "Above blue line at all times, check the gear no less than three times." Can you get away with checking the gear once on final (or never, there is a gear alarm and a flashing red light)? Well, yeah, until something goes wrong. So you do it three times, and the student does it three times. You've checked the gear is down and locked six whole times! You could, on a bad day, miss five of those and still catch it before something bad happens. Could you fly an approach at less than Vyse? Yes, but we've judged that we have sufficient runway to carry an extra five knots, and it means you're significantly better off if you have an engine failure: better climb performance initially, less close to a Vmc roll. It's about knowing that you're not going to be perfect all the time, and you're not going to react perfectly in an emergency, and designing your procedures, your personal limits, around that. --- Among key findings in reducing stall/spin accidents: 1) Stalls should be introduced via recovery at the first indication of stall 2) Stalls should not be introduced as a skill item, but as an emergency procedure, with a focus on recognizing the conditions that could lead to stalls. 3) Angle of attack indicators should be mandated (this is contentious, because money, but it would inarguably provide greater safety) Base-to-final stall/spin accidents also have a much greater chance of occurring with someone who is inexperienced with the aircraft type, particularly moving from something slower (like a 172) to something much faster (pretty much loving anything). Comprehensive transition training is essential for safe flight, and legally the requirement is basically nothing, or "whatever an insurance company deems appropriate." So, again, you have some GA dumbass deciding "well, I don't really need that, I know how to fly planes!" and then.... accident! fknlo posted:And it very much turns into the thing where it reinforces the behavior because it turned out fine the last time. And this is how it happens. You start off with a good safety margin, and something serious happens but... you make your way through it, and it doesn't seem like a big deal (because you had an adequate safety margin). So next time, you think "oh, that was fine" but your margin is now much narrower. Combine two or three of those things and, bam, you're headed straight for an accident.
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G-BOAD is on a ferry  https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/09/nyregion/concorde-intrepid-paint-job.html
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Safety Dance posted:G-BOAD is on a ferry I'M ON A BOAD! 
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Safety Dance posted:G-BOAD is on a ferry Pictured: the fastest travelling Concorde in almost twenty years
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i hope it was prepped for the trip with its swim trunks and its flippie-floppies 
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and floaties and goggles and ear plugs (because of the tubes in its ears)
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i hope it was prepped for the trip with its swim trunks and its flippie-floppies Engines Turn Or Plane Swims
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Zero One posted:I hope Sully has his Concorde rating. I found a website a while back that does its best to demystify Concorde's flight engineer panel: https://www.heritageconcorde.com/mid-mid-engineers-panel
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I found a website a while back that does its best to demystify Concorde's flight engineer panel: https://www.heritageconcorde.com/mid-mid-engineers-panel the fuel tank diagram alone just makes my head hurt No wonder there was a dedicated flight engineer, that's for sure.
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For Concorde enjoyers, one of the jewels of the internet is this megathread on PPRUNE https://www.pprune.org/tech-log/423988-concorde-question.html that ran for a couple of years, with inputs from multiple pilots, FE's, mechanics, design engineers, FA's, and others. Someone indexed all its posts by topic, if you want to read it that way https://paulross.github.io/pprune-concorde/docs/index.html. Naturally there's overlap in the different topic links though. (Also I made an effortpost about it here, mostly cribbed from this, and not doing it justice https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3276654&pagenumber=1213&perpage=40#post472706761) vessbot fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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Safety Dance posted:G-BOAD is on a ferry Lady Jane Grey-class Aircraft Carrier confirmed.
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Psion posted:the fuel tank diagram alone just makes my head hurt the Hiller Aviation Museum in San Carlos has, for some reason that escapes me (hiller being known for helicopters, not boeing widebodies), a preserved 747 cockpit from the all-analog days and its just fuckin mindmelting. 3 crew doesn't seem like enough
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Psion posted:the fuel tank diagram alone just makes my head hurt Apparently that's just one of eight pages/sections. Here are links to the whole thing: https://www.heritageconcorde.com/flightdeck-detail
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OMGVBFLOL posted:the Hiller Aviation Museum in San Carlos has, for some reason that escapes me (hiller being known for helicopters, not boeing widebodies), a preserved 747 cockpit from the all-analog days and its just fuckin mindmelting. 3 crew doesn't seem like enough My mind read that as the Hitler Aviation museum. I had to re-read it more than twice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeetlqlDzvI RIP, Sky King. 5 years ago today...
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More Concorde info, the LEGO one is officially revealed. It'll be over a meter long too.
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Is it possible to check historical flight data on flightradar or whatever similar site is goon-recommended? I thought I saw something with a twin-boom, or at least a twin tail, landing at YYC yesterday. Viking Air has a box with wings and a twin tail in their yard - think it's a Short Skyvan - but the proportions of the landing plane were all wrong for it to be that.
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PhotoKirk posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeetlqlDzvI I dont know why but this video sort of chokes me up and judging from the comments I am not the only one.
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moparacker posted:More Concorde info, the LEGO one is officially revealed. It'll be over a meter long too. Wow, that price is surprisingly reasonable!
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Psion posted:the fuel tank diagram alone just makes my head hurt I love, love, love that you tell this is an aircraft designed by the French and the British from the very first sentence: quote:...there are 13 fuel tanks, numbered 1 to 11...
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moparacker posted:More Concorde info, the LEGO one is officially revealed. It'll be over a meter long too. Yeah, this is a day one buy for me. The Cobi one is cheaper, but if Lego gets good sales on Concorde, maybe they'll soften their "no warplanes*" stance on the NASA SR-71. *they had a Sopwith Camel set once and no one bitched and moaned.
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"dude what if we equip this civilian, passenger aircraft with afterburners lmao" Somehow still the wildest aspect of that plane for me.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, this is a day one buy for me. The Cobi one is cheaper, but if Lego gets good sales on Concorde, maybe they'll soften their "no warplanes*" stance on the NASA SR-71. Their stance is no items that could be mistaken for real current weapons, nobody is going to do a drive by shooting in a biplane.
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SlowBloke posted:Their stance is no items that could be mistaken for real current weapons, nobody is going to do a drive by shooting in a biplane. While that logic made sense on the released-yet-instantly-aborted V-22, it really didn't make much sense on the SR-71 Ideas set, unless they decided to hold its YF-12 lineage against it.
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Phy posted:Is it possible to check historical flight data on flightradar or whatever similar site is goon-recommended? I thought I saw something with a twin-boom, or at least a twin tail, landing at YYC yesterday. yeah, most of the sites have rewind adsb-fi's replay feature is, as it was on adsbx, impossible to find in their terrible UI, but: https://globe.adsb.fi/?r flightradar24 has a button in the UI for it, Playback. here's an example of yesterday at yyc: https://www.flightradar24.com/2023-08-09/18:25/20x/51.11,-114.99/8 flightaware probably makes you pay for it, but hopefully those two will get you what you want BalloonFish posted:I love, love, love that you tell this is an aircraft designed by the French and the British from the very first sentence: the best part is you can argue there's 13 or 14 tanks -- depending on if you count the scavenge tank. and the feed lines aren't symmetrical, either, which just makes me go ??? (look at 5A and 7A which are in mirrored positions on the wings, but the 5/7 tanks they feed into aren't) it's truly amazing. Psion fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:While that logic made sense on the released-yet-instantly-aborted V-22, it really didn't make much sense on the SR-71 Ideas set, unless they decided to hold its YF-12 lineage against it. I mean they could always do a plausible-deniability not-Blackbird in a "stunt plane" livery, like they did with the F-35 
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Phy posted:I mean they could always do a plausible-deniability not-Blackbird in a "stunt plane" livery, like they did with the F-35 Call me weird but i hate brick planes with thick vertical stabilizers, cobi does that for all dassault planes and it looks ugly. They didn't do it for their gripen and eurofighter so i don't know why they picked that design.
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Beastie posted:I dont know why but this video sort of chokes me up and judging from the comments I am not the only one. You aren't the only one!
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Okay here goes my ramble. I'm really falling for, what I don't know how else to call other than 'light Euro aircraft'. You see, Europe doesn't have the big GA monoliths like Textron/Cessna or Lycoming and what have you. Most countries here also don't have anywhere near the sort of GA community or industry that the US seems to have, with like 25% of the entire world's share. But WW2 and the cold war were done, there remained a bunch of small companies, spread out all over the continent, which put little engines into glider aircraft, and who leapfrogged right to MoGas and transplanted Daimler TDI-engines. Universally, these companies seem to have a little workshop and warehouse in some Central European town no one ever heard of. And they all seem to trace back to some dude who liked flying gliders in the interwar period and kept tinkering on them throughout the cold war. And now their grandchildren are at it. So they're building what amounts to beefed up TMG. But rather than wood, steel tubes, and painted fabric with the occassional lawnmower engine, they're doing it with the most modern and sleek power plants, materials, and avionics you can get. I've sat in some of these planes, and they're all a ton of fun. And depending on the exact type, they even come with a (albeit legally mandated) rescue chute, which is nice! They do offer much less utility than a Skyhawk, what with being limited to 2 POB and rather low MTOW and speed. But then again, I reckon if you want to go somewhere, you're not taking a Skyhawk anyway, you'd get in the car, on a train, or on an airliner. And these little bugsmashers can also make do with much, much less cost than a Skyhawk. One of the ones below, the Pipistrel Velis, is fully eletric. They're kind of wild. I see them fly regularly and know someone who teaches on them. Might book a discovery flight just for the fun of it. When they're at the holding point, the propeller just stops spinning completely because electric planes can just do that. When they cross the runway threshold, they also often just close the throttle completely, so they come in whisper quiet, with a dead prop. It's really neat. Unfortunately they come without any creature comforts. I think they're not even outfitting them with any sort of LED light as the current state of tech means they need to shave of every excess gram of weight. But they seem like cool little fun things. Little charming buzzers for happy moments.     
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If you can catch a discovery flight on an electric aircraft I'd highly recommend it. They've got fuckall range but max torque at 1rpm is *real* fun.
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More LEGO Concorde crossposting. Pilot Of Unknown Size for scaleZwille posted:
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