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Fashionably Great
Jul 10, 2008

Apparently it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Am9K7V6uw
Thank you, Japan.

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RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

Grape Soda posted:

Apparently it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Am9K7V6uw
Thank you, Japan.

Literally none of that was from Japan?

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Grape Soda posted:

Apparently it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Am9K7V6uw
Thank you, Japan.

That is some high quality Chintendo V.

stringball
Mar 17, 2009



will it ever end?

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

stringball posted:



will it ever end?

Nah.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
stupid weeaboos, it's called EMOTICONS IN ENGLISH

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Tired Moritz posted:

stupid weeaboos, it's called EMOTICONS IN ENGLISH

They’re really not the same thing. Beginning with “emo–” is a coincidence.

What emotion does 🗿 convey?

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Platystemon posted:

They’re really not the same thing. Beginning with “emo–” is a coincidence.

What emotion does 🗿 convey?

Have you ever had a day where you just felt like an enormous stone head?

cyberia
Jun 24, 2011

Do not call me that!
Snuffles was my slave name.
You shall now call me Snowball; because my fur is pretty and white.

stringball posted:



will it ever end?

You know there's an Emoji movie coming out soon, right? I imagine the merchandising will be second only to the Minions.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Platystemon posted:

They’re really not the same thing. Beginning with “emo–” is a coincidence.

What emotion does 🗿 convey?

stoic tiredness

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Platystemon posted:

They’re really not the same thing.

They really are the same thing. Smiley, emoticon and emoji all mean "little picture you can include in a text message". That's all. Saying "well, this one means ASCII pictures, this one means the ones specific to particular forums" or whatever is pointless pedantry.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Tiggum posted:

They really are the same thing. Smiley, emoticon and emoji all mean "little picture you can include in a text message". That's all. Saying "well, this one means ASCII pictures, this one means the ones specific to particular forums" or whatever is pointless pedantry.

I think the pedantry is the other way around.
True, the words mean the same, but linguistically we use "emoji" to refer to a very specific set of icons, even if glorious Nippon uses the word broadly.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Platystemon posted:

They’re really not the same thing. Beginning with “emo–” is a coincidence.

What emotion does 🗿 convey?
Stoney-faced.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

"emoticon" isn't used anymore guys, sorry. it's emoji all the way down now, whether they're unicode standard or not

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

stringball posted:



will it ever end?

Little Debbie is barely masking her disgust

Hardcordion
Feb 5, 2008

BARK BARK BARK
Courtesy @Voidburger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcsEOgjFs3A

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Tired Moritz posted:

stupid weeaboos, it's called EMOTICONS IN ENGLISH

No, its called Emoticons by nerds on the internet.

Most people had no idea what an 'emoticon' was a few years ago, and when the cell phones came along with their "emojis" it was a new concept to them.

Emojis are now ingrained in the public. They're Emojis now whether you like it or not. They never knew what emoticons were to begin with.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

stringball posted:



will it ever end?

:allears:

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

What are IPS?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Choco1980 posted:

What are IPS?

INCHES PER SECOND.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

ratbert90 posted:

INCHES PER SECOND.

Am I stupid, or wouldn't a high IPS number imply that you have to move the mouse more to get the same input as a mouse with a lower IPS, since a lower speed means less hand movement? I consider myself computer literate, but I have never heard IPS used, even when resarching gaming mice. Real measurements, like Dots (or Counts) per Inch, tell me fairly concretely about the mouse's sensitivity. A high DPI mouse is amazing for gaming because tiny hand movements translate to large in-game moves, but a lower DPI mouse feels better for casual computer usage. Only going off of this ad, I have no way to know how IPS will benefit or hinder my gaming in any way, shape, or form. Time to go down the google/rabbit hole...

Googling "IPS mouse" brings up a bunch of genetic abnormalities in lab mice, and the only gaming thing I can find just lists IPS as "Malfunction Speed," which is a great place to start off
The only real answer I could find for Malfunction speed's definition is from a random forum post:

quote:

I call this the Malfunction Speed, where the mouse loses control and effectively stops working. When you flick your mouse beyond the Malfunction Speed, anything can happen. You may either end up looking in any random direction or just find you haven't turned around at all. All optical and laser mice must have a Malfunction Speed, so we want it to be as high as possible so you don't notice it.

OK, so 3 google searches and 2 different names to find out why 500 IPS is worth making that ad for, and I still don't have a concrete answer. What does 500 IPS actually mean for mouse sensitivity or performance other than, "it won't register random mouse flailing as garbage data," because that's not helpful without the rest of the mouse's specs. Or an explanation of why I would want my mouse to register movements that are happening at about 28 MPH. I'm pretty sure my old rolling ball mouse from 1999 would still register close to 500 IPS as clear input since it had no sensitivity to begin with. On top of that confusing bullshit, thanks to their bad renders and visually busy ad, in those 30 seconds, I couldn't even be sure of how many buttons the drat thing had, which is pretty important in my choice of mouse.

I hate the harsh lines and ugly lights on modern mice, but looking up an actual image of the mouse, I actually kind of like the look of it since I can see it and gain important information that 500 IPS!!!!! and ugly, underlit renders won't tell me



I don't normally get so worked up over such dumb ads, but if you are going to base an ad campaign on the technical specifications of your product, list more than 1 specification and clearly explain why that number is better than the number I currently have. This isn't rocket surgery.
Watch any commercial for trucks and they have it down to a science. Sure, there's always macho dick stroking, but horsepower, torque, tow capacity are almost always the 3 most important things in the ad. Sometimes there's bed-size, frame strength, gas mileage, and other such stuff, but they know that without at least two numbers, we can't tell if that truck is better or worse than another.

Except for when Chrysler decided that "man, our trucks are so cool" was the best stilling point possible. Or when they thought a movie based on a YA novel, both of which were aimed at teenage girls, would have the same target demographic as giant trucks and partnered with the Hunger Games. Man, FCA makes a loooot of bad decisions

Jaramin
Oct 20, 2010


Does Youtube Red count as a dumb move in marketing since almost everyone, including Google, seems to have forgotten about it already?

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Jaramin posted:

Does Youtube Red count as a dumb move in marketing since almost everyone, including Google, seems to have forgotten about it already?

I'd say so, and having the words "tube" and "red" in the same name seem pretty dumb considering redtube

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
Door Frame: yeah, a low sensitivity like that is actually huge for some competitve gamers. It means they can make more precise movements with what we'd consider normal mouse motions, while they can still make big moves by moving the miuse widely. People like this tend to keep a large mouse space for that reason, they're not always working with a standard mousepad size. It's mainly relevant for FPS players, especially snipers.

High-skill gamers can often have some pretty strange-looking requirements for hardware. Some demand a lower resolution than usual, or a weird-to-us FoV to better see their surroundings. Speedrunners of older games still use CRTs, because there's noticeable lag when upscaling to HD and many of them have to rely on original versions even if there are re-releases.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

The Door Frame posted:

Am I stupid, or wouldn't a high IPS number imply that you have to move the mouse more to get the same input as a mouse with a lower IPS, since a lower speed means less hand movement?

Inches per second and counts per inch are independent of each other.

The way optical mice work is they have a camera constantly photographing whatever surface the mouse is on. They apply image processing to match features in consecutive images with each other. Then the mouse knows how much you physically moved it. Counts per inch is an arbitrary scaling factor applied on top of that, though one would hope there is some correlation between the precision of the imager and CPI.

Illustration from GIS:



What could happen is that the mouse could move so much between consecutive images that there is no overlap and the mouse has no idea which direction you moved it. A mouse that takes more frames per second or uses wider‐angle optics could handle faster motion.

If you moved your hand too fast for the mouse you were using keep up with, that would be a serious annoyance, but if you never move your hand faster than 100 IPS (arbitrary number; have no idea what a typical rate is), there’s absolutely no difference between a 200 IPS mouse or a 500 IPS mouse.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
lol if you don't have enrique directly attach a cord to your brainstem so you can control the game with your mind

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Platystemon posted:

Inches per second and counts per inch are independent of each other.

The way optical mice work is they have a camera constantly photographing whatever surface the mouse is on. They apply image processing to match features in consecutive images with each other. Then the mouse knows how much you physically moved it. Counts per inch is an arbitrary scaling factor applied on top of that, though one would hope there is some correlation between the precision of the imager and CPI.

Illustration from GIS:



What could happen is that the mouse could move so much between consecutive images that there is no overlap and the mouse has no idea which direction you moved it. A mouse that takes more frames per second or uses wider‐angle optics could handle faster motion.

If you moved your hand too fast for the mouse you were using keep up with, that would be a serious annoyance, but if you never move your hand faster than 100 IPS (arbitrary number; have no idea what a typical rate is), there’s absolutely no difference between a 200 IPS mouse or a 500 IPS mouse.

What if the picture moved back and to the left? Which window should we check in that case?

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli
Just a thought, but could IPS mean images per second?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I'd say so, and having the words "tube" and "red" in the same name seem pretty dumb considering redtube

Also, YouTube's logo is already red. YouTube Red should be the normal YouTube, use a different colour for the different one! :argh:

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
I don't see the problem with U2 Bread, it's great for my Bono sandwiches :haw:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
join youtube red for the deepweb cute cat videos

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Platystemon posted:

Inches per second and counts per inch are independent of each other.

The way optical mice work is they have a camera constantly photographing whatever surface the mouse is on. They apply image processing to match features in consecutive images with each other. Then the mouse knows how much you physically moved it. Counts per inch is an arbitrary scaling factor applied on top of that, though one would hope there is some correlation between the precision of the imager and CPI.

Illustration from GIS:



What could happen is that the mouse could move so much between consecutive images that there is no overlap and the mouse has no idea which direction you moved it. A mouse that takes more frames per second or uses wider‐angle optics could handle faster motion.

If you moved your hand too fast for the mouse you were using keep up with, that would be a serious annoyance, but if you never move your hand faster than 100 IPS (arbitrary number; have no idea what a typical rate is), there’s absolutely no difference between a 200 IPS mouse or a 500 IPS mouse.

Ok, so it's basically the difference between framerate and resolution, where IPS is the framerate and DPI is the resolution?

Why did none of my Google results say that? Or even something more complicated, but informative like, "IPS is a misnomer, it's actually the optical sensor's field of view combined with the rate at which the optical sensor on the mouse scans for variations, and therefore movement. Inches Per Second is just a simplified term to sum up those variables and refers to how quickly that angle and refresh rate allow you to move the mouse without any input errors."
The only helpful thing I found was "IPS is malfunction speed and malfunction speed is when your mouse doesn't recognize inputs anymore." And that wasn't actually helpful in understanding anything other than what I could already infer from the term IPS...


Cleretic posted:

Door Frame: yeah, a low sensitivity like that is actually huge for some competitve gamers. It means they can make more precise movements with what we'd consider normal mouse motions, while they can still make big moves by moving the miuse widely. People like this tend to keep a large mouse space for that reason, they're not always working with a standard mousepad size. It's mainly relevant for FPS players, especially snipers.

High-skill gamers can often have some pretty strange-looking requirements for hardware. Some demand a lower resolution than usual, or a weird-to-us FoV to better see their surroundings. Speedrunners of older games still use CRTs, because there's noticeable lag when upscaling to HD and many of them have to rely on original versions even if there are re-releases.

I was always taught "less movement in real life for more in game," that extra fraction of a secon that you take to line up your reticle because of your low sensitivity is the difference between shooting first and getting shot.
I have only ever watched SC:BW and SC2 competitive matches, and almost everything was going as fast as possible with as little movement from home keys and center screen. For shooters, I guess at long range (and probably with a variable DPI in case the want to switch weapons) that lower sensitivity could be the difference between a headshot and severely menacing the air by the enemy's head. It still strikes me as weird to not tell me why someone who isn't in a sponsored team would want more IPS in an ad for your special IPS mouse, but :shrug:

I know a bit about the weird speedrunning stuff, I've seen enough Japanese OoT mashed through that I can almost recognize what characters mean "Triforce" And I have tried an N64 on an HD TV, and it was not good.
The N64 was never a looker, but those scanlines and the fuzzy look of CRTs helped hide the ugly more than I thought they did, I can only imagine how much worse it gets when important things like framerate determining game speed show up in older consoles

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
Whenever I see one of those jagged gamer-mice I shudder at the nasty buildup of sweatgunk it's going to have in a week.

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I'd say so, and having the words "tube" and "red" in the same name seem pretty dumb considering redtube

that's legit what I thought it was when people first started talking about it and i was impressed with how open everyone was being about being able to watch porn

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔
Bought this mouse a while ago! I chose it because it was rather cheap for an FPS GAMING MOUSE (40ish € if I remember correctly), had good reviews and the sidebuttons I like. The "best" gaming mouse on many lists doesn't even have those. What else am I going to back/forward web pages with?

It even has a feature I thought was completely useless for me: with a button on the side, you can turn mouse speed down a lot, which is meant to give you the ability to do accurate headshots when sniping or somesuch. Turns out it's actually really great if you want to precisely draw something with your mouse - I don't draw things often, so I don't have a tablet, but sometimes I put arrows on things and make graphs and it's a godsend for that.

However, the presentation of everything is completely stupid. The HEADSHOT BUTTON has a sniper sight on it, it's called loving HYPERION FURY (I was also considering its big brother called PROTEUS CORE which is even more jagged, too) and :laffo: at that commercial. It's still subdued as far as gaming mouses go - I felt embarrassed just picking up some of them on display when trying to choose, because everything by Razer (RAZER!!!) is named after snakes, so you get the DEATHADDER or the OROCHI or the OUROBOROUS (which is a stupid loving name for anything but especially something involving cables). And then there is Mad Catz...



...so overall, the HYPERION loving FURY was imho the most sensible choice for me when going "I guess I will use this on SOME videogames"...

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
That looks like a robot beetle. I expect it to spread robot wings and fly off to get some robot elephant robot poop.

It's a flying robot dung beetle and nobody can convince me otherwise.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I use a cheapo Razer mouse. It has two top buttons and a scroll wheel and that's it. It looks like a regular-rear end mouse but the logo lights up under your palm. I like it. v:v:v

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


I got this cheapo "Utech" knockoff MMO mouse ("UtechSmart Venus 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse" - I think it's a knockoff of some Razor thing) on Amazon's Prime Day non-holiday thing for like $20 and it's actually one of the most comfortable mice I've ever used. I only use like two of the fancy extra buttons but it's nice having them available - lately I've taken to setting one button as crouch and another as sprint on it and it reduces hand strain a ton.

I don't know if it would be worth the hundred loving dollars they apparently have the gall to charge for them normally though.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007
I used to use gaming mice for my gaming, but despite claiming to be designed to be comfy to hold they weren't and also the extra buttons were basically pointless for me because I either had no use for them in the first place or smacked the wrong one. Now I just have a logitech mouse that I think it actually a gaming one, but it's a fairly simple one that only has a pair of thumb buttons that I actually do use and a DPI switch that I never use.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

I had a mouse from this line for a few years.It was a pretty okay mouse, made better because it actually had steel bearings inside it that you could use to make it lighter or heavier. Not necessary, or even super useful, but I liked giving the mouse an extra bit of heft.

If only it wasn't stupid expensive and had really crap batteries, I'd have happily bought another one when it died.

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