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verbal enema posted:who knows maybe sanji has a tiny shred of big mom's vivi card on him which is why she does what she did/is doing the vivre card isn't magic(other than burning when someone's dying and pointing their location) it's a symbol of connection to big mom
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Elfgames posted:the vivre card isn't magic(other than burning when someone's dying and pointing their location) it's a symbol of connection to big mom I think the implication is vivre cards contain part of the person's soul, so the homies can't fight it.
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Elfgames posted:the vivre card isn't magic(other than burning when someone's dying and pointing their location) it's a symbol of connection to big mom I assume Ace's card burned because he was a fire man.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:37
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I think Pudding is at heart good, but all the children fear getting on the badside of mama (or maybe they just love their mama and dont want to let her down??). I bet they're also threatened with the bomb cufflings, and instructed to spy on their spouses and their crews/army. Big Mom even knew jinbei was going to leave her crew, something he only mentioned to his sun pirates and alladin's wife.
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anime was right posted:one piece is cool and great this is a good opinion that is correct.
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Nov 4, 2016 23:08
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guys wheres puddings slime monster thing shes gonna throw it back on her shoulder and be like 'tricked you bitch you're gonna cook for big mom FOREVER' or something like that i do not want sanji to get married pudding is lame and i dont want her on the drat ship and as its been brought up that sanji 100% leaves the crew no matter what if they marry. there cant be no conditions poo poo this arc thats been foreshadowed and i just cant see this actually happening drjuggalo fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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key party favors posted:this is a good opinion that is correct. i thought it was pretty controversial imo
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Crazyeyes posted:I think the implication is vivre cards contain part of the person's soul, so the homies can't fight it. Pretty sure it's just that having a vivre card makes you basically a VIP The homies were probably given a standing order to obey anyone with a card (because it would mostly only be one of her kids that had them)
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Nov 5, 2016 19:13
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Cloks posted:What if Pudding's personality changes when her third eye is exposed? Oda loves Dragon Ball, I think he'd definitely put a character like Launch/Lunch in at some point. then I would be glad that somebody remembered lunch
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Elfgames posted:Pretty sure it's just that having a vivre card makes you basically a VIP The homies were probably given a standing order to obey anyone with a card (because it would mostly only be one of her kids that had them) Nope.  It has a piece of Big Mom's soul, that's why it has power over them. And Cracker apparently doesn't have one of his own.
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Nov 5, 2016 19:55
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I'm pretty sure he says that even Mama's children don't normally get one so they aren't immune to attack from things she's placed a soul in to.
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Begemot posted:Nope. I don't think that's supposed to be literal like they can't go against orders to obey the cards holder even though it's an enemy, Elfgames fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 05:23
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i cant get over how amazing crackers hair is
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tsob posted:I'm pretty sure he says that even Mama's children don't normally get one so they aren't immune to attack from things she's placed a soul in to. They don't get one because it would gently caress up the Homies' ability to fight if they were ever in a shared space.
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Nov 6, 2016 16:48
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So the vivre cards are horcruxes?
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Nov 6, 2016 17:41
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Bisse posted:So the vivre cards are horcruxes? Don't think so in general, I mean Big Mom specifically has the ability to put souls in things.
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Nov 6, 2016 19:39
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socialsecurity posted:Don't think so in general, I mean Big Mom specifically has the ability to put souls in things. that then become anthropomorphised. Virve cards have no soul in them
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Vivre cards aren't very well explained so far. We don't even know how they're created. It's interesting to note that the WG doesn't seem to use them, at least on a large scale (an obvious use would be making one for every Impel Down prisoner, for example). I remember someone in ADTRW speculating that creating them involves ripping out a page from the Bible. That fits the name (V=B, L=R) and seems like the sort of superstition that might have been common among real-world pirates, and we know that there are Bibles in One Piece because Kuma carries one around, but it also seems a bit too overtly magical for One Piece and raises more questions than it answers. (Like, what is the One Piece Bible even about? Is the unnamed Autumn Island that comes after Arabasta the OPverse equivalent of Israel? How many followers does Kuma's religion have?) So they may or may not have bits of the soul of the person they're keyed to. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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might just require the consent of the person you're making a card of
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I thought they were made out of fingernails. Sounds enough like something out of an old pirate myth
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Sinners Sandwich posted:I thought they were made out of fingernails. Sounds enough like something out of an old pirate myth Yeah, I thought this too. Dunno where I got the idea, does Ace say it?
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Nov 7, 2016 00:07
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I think Lola gives Nami a little more detail on them when she gives Nami Mama's vivre card.
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Silento posted:Yeah, I thought this too. Dunno where I got the idea, does Ace say it? Lola explains it
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Lola says "if you take your nail clipping to a certain shop, they'll mix it into a special sheet of paper for you." So it'll be one person somewhere who is very picky about who they make vivre cards for. Basically only Emperors, and presumably will make one for Luffy. Wano seems likely, in lieu of any other upcoming locations.
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I wonder is it a devil fruit power that's responsible in some way if only one person is making them.
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tsob posted:I wonder is it a devil fruit power that's responsible in some way if only one person is making them. That explains it pretty well, then.
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Silver2195 posted:Vivre cards aren't very well explained so far. We don't even know how they're created. It's interesting to note that the WG doesn't seem to use them, at least on a large scale (an obvious use would be making one for every Impel Down prisoner, for example). I remember someone in ADTRW speculating that creating them involves ripping out a page from the Bible. That fits the name (V=B, L=R) and seems like the sort of superstition that might have been common among real-world pirates, and we know that there are Bibles in One Piece because Kuma carries one around, but it also seems a bit too overtly magical for One Piece and raises more questions than it answers. (Like, what is the One Piece Bible even about? Is the unnamed Autumn Island that comes after Arabasta the OPverse equivalent of Israel? How many followers does Kuma's religion have?) I'm pretty sure the name is supposed to be a play on verve as the card can measure a person's vitality
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Elfgames posted:I'm pretty sure the name is supposed to be a play on verve as the card can measure a person's vitality Yeah I always assumed that it responds to the vitality of the person who it belongs to. It is subtly attracted to that person, so you can use it as a locator, but it will fade as its owner's vitality fades. Someone mentioned that they thought Ace's burned because he was a fire man, but I'd say the odds are much higher it does that with everyone.
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tsob posted:I wonder is it a devil fruit power that's responsible in some way if only one person is making them. Bart had one made for the Straw Hat Armada, unless that person just happened to be on Dressrosa.
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Yeah I always assumed that it responds to the vitality of the person who it belongs to. It is subtly attracted to that person, so you can use it as a locator, but it will fade as its owner's vitality fades. Someone mentioned that they thought Ace's burned because he was a fire man, but I'd say the odds are much higher it does that with everyone. Didn't Elder Nyon from Amazon Lily know what the burning up meant - that Ace was at death's door? I suppose he's famous enough that she would know he was a fire man, but that seems to really be reaching.
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It's like a waypoint marker and health meter all in one. gently caress if I know how it works though, maybe Vegapunk will explain that when he explains Devil Fruits. Also this arc is good.
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Advice posted:Didn't Elder Nyon from Amazon Lily know what the burning up meant - that Ace was at death's door? I suppose he's famous enough that she would know he was a fire man, but that seems to really be reaching. The Vivre Cards burn when you're dying.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:The Vivre Cards burn when you're dying. supposedly they change shape to reflect your physical state so they might also grow back like a health meter when you recover
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Guys, I am just spit ballin' here but I think "vivre" comes from the verb "to live" so I am pretty sure it has to do with people's life.
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Nov 7, 2016 05:12
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This isn't the worst conversation I've read about cartoon characters' v cards.
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Does the V in Arc V stand for eVolution or is it cause it's the 5th (is it the 5th) YGO franchise? EDIT: But wait, the 4th franchise was 5D's....
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Nov 7, 2016 06:37
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Elfgames posted:supposedly they change shape to reflect your physical state so they might also grow back like a health meter when you recover It definitely does this. Ace's vivre card restored itself to normal as soon as Luffy rescued him from the execution platform. Then it completely burned away once Ace got fisted by Akainu.
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Hate-Senpai posted:Does the V in Arc V stand for eVolution or is it cause it's the 5th (is it the 5th) YGO franchise? I thought the 4th was Zexal.
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Nov 7, 2016 14:34
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Please stop talking about Yu-Gi-Oh in this good thread about One Piece, which is very good.
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Hate-Senpai posted:Does the V in Arc V stand for eVolution or is it cause it's the 5th (is it the 5th) YGO franchise? It's pronounced Arc-Five, so yes, the latter. Also the bad adaption of the pre-card game manga doesn't count, so Arc-V is the fifth. It's good!
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