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A Buttery Pastry posted:The Argentinian economy was killed by German expats following the end of WW2. When Germany sent its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing war crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people
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ftfymobby_6kl posted:When Germany sent its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing war crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good doctors
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Skilled surgeon/good doctor is a good example of near synonyms that don't work in all contexts, such as when used about Mengele
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Blut posted:
Come to think of it, the Venezuelan diaspora across the continent in the wake of Maduro's disastrous leadership may be dragging things down as well. This is an expansion of people living in poverty, and most refugees I assume will plop directly into poverty wherever they land.  Which while this isn't a perfect map (Guyana and Bolivia are listed as "no data", and while official numbers of Venezuelans in Bolivia are low, I assume there must be a bunch who wound up in Guyana), it actually might mean that some of these places that have gotten worse may have in fact lifted a decent amount of people out of poverty while Venezuelans came to superficially boost the numbers. Some sloppy math, 1.49 million Venezuelan refugees in Peru out of a population of 34 million would be 4% of the population, but there's only been a 1% increase. Of course in Ecuador and Colombia, by my math Venezuelans would only account for 2.9% and 5% increases when there's been 5% and 8%. Venezuelan refugees in Chile would only account for a 2% increase. Maybe if I used 2012 population numbers to compare the Venezuelan refugees with the numbers would work out better? This also means that Bolivia stands out even more as having a bigger increase in poverty despite having a negligible amount of refugees (14 thousand by the UN's estimate). Brazil is also scooting by at just low enough of an increase to avoid changing color (4%), and refugees would only account for a 0.1% increase.
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mobby_6kl posted:Argentina used to be richer than Europe lol. We'll see how the new guy manages to gently caress it up even more somehow. so were chile and venezuela just selling raw materials won't create long lasting prosperity
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Australia is living large off its precious minerals extraction afaik without ivestigating further...
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The prejudice against Argentinias is that they are freeloaders. The type of person that would take advantage from you not one time, but forever. Another prejudice, but a positive one, is that they are educated people. I do not believe in prejudices, but I believe for argentinians theres some traces of truth. I am not a fan of Milei, he probably just want to make a lot of money selling the public companies to friends, like what happened in russia. But maybe a bit of free market is what argentina needs. Corruption is also a structure, somebody is the "Mama" and others are customers that depend on the mama, like piglets drinking from the tits. Argentina probably has a massive grid of such relations, and these need to die. But more than the structure, the sentiment need to die. The idea of thats how things work, the normalization of such corrupt relations. Is this what Milei is going to do?, is too much to ask, so I doubt it.
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Australia is living large off its precious minerals extraction afaik without ivestigating further... Australia is also famous for having reasonable people in charge, who think things through and also understand basic facts.
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The decline in Brazil probably is related to Bolsonaro cancelling some of the Worker's Party poverty relief programmes, although the general economic decline that followed the bursting of the early 2000s commodity bubble started years before him.
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All of latinoamerica have a problem with classism. Distribution of wealth. And the negative influence of USA, that just want to use the region has a cheap resource extraction area.
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Tei posted:And the negative influence of USA, that just want to use the region has a cheap resource extraction area. Arguably they'd be better off if the US wanted their energy resources. But, the US has been in a huge energy production boom while consumption has stayed flat. So, the US has actually been a net exporter for a few years: 
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Australia is living large off its precious minerals extraction afaik without ivestigating further... inshallah australia will crash soon
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A Buttery Pastry posted:That's masculine, feminine, and neuter. I don't know the degree to which you're onto me, but for the casual reader, Marie is the result of a language historical change called infortissvækkelsen, which essentially took most of the unstressed Norse vowels and turned then into ə in Danish. So Swedish fitta becomes Danish fitte and so forth, which also happened with Maria. Then later people hosed up and began using the French/Latin whatever again, so we have both Maria and Marie as girls names. What I'm getting is that, in your analysis, becoming Danish is getting neutered. Also Maria is pronounced with stød, fight me irl.
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Blut posted:This is from 10 years ago, but is just as accurate today as it was then. The whole article is worth reading, but a few select highlights: Can I read this somewhere without having to register an account?
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Phlegmish posted:Can I read this somewhere without having to register an account? https://archive.ph/bN2XE
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BonHair posted:Australia is also famous for having reasonable people in charge, who think things through and also understand basic facts. That's righ... hey wait a second!
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BonHair posted:Australia is also famous for having reasonable people in charge, who think things through and also understand basic facts. First I’ve heard of it.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:French was like this too until the 1st world war when the army and French school system got everyone speaking Parisian French France was more diverse than Germany even. There’s breton, alsatian* and flemish being killed off but no one remembers the langues d’oc, which had a massive population and literary tradition, are more similar to spanish and near intelligible with catalan. It’s not like code switching as germans do, it’s a full on foreign language that got beat out of kids. *the germans also helped by banning alsatian dialect in favour of Hochdeutsch.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:France was more diverse than Germany even. There’s breton, alsatian* and flemish being killed off but no one remembers the langues d’oc, which had a massive population and literary tradition, are more similar to spanish and near intelligible with catalan. It’s not like code switching as germans do, it’s a full on foreign language that got beat out of kids. What you want to imagine is a situation where all the villages from Portugal to Romania to northern France could speak to the neighbouring villages which spoke something slightly different, and these small differences over enough villages basically became what we know as languages. Then nationalism standardised the language within some lines on a map, thank mr nationalism.
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The seed of Frenchness was in them all along, waiting to bloom out of the husks of their relict tongues.
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We are here to help the Bretons, because inside every plouc there is a Frenchman trying to get out.
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Kenning posted:Europe has uniform races, descended from singular tribes, and this was a natural process that finished up around 500 years ago.
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Thanks! Argentina has always been fascinating to me (yes I know I say this about literally everything), because right next door you have Chile, which is very similar in terms of coups, political violence, oscillating between protectionism and free trade, and demographic make-up (Chileans in fact have slightly more indigenous ancestry on average), yet the latter is vastly outperforming the former. On the other hand, I do remember reading that Chile was actually quite stable prior to Allende and Pinochet, so maybe they simply have stronger and more deeply-rooted institutions.
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Phlegmish posted:Thanks! Argentina has always been fascinating to me (yes I know I say this about literally everything), because right next door you have Chile, which is very similar in terms of coups, political violence, oscillating between protectionism and free trade, and demographic make-up (Chileans in fact have slightly more indigenous ancestry on average), yet the latter is vastly outperforming the former. chile has a very diverse set of valuable minerals and they also decided to fill an agricultural niche thats extremely valuable (growing seasonal fruits and vegetables for the northern hemisphere during their winter) instead of going all in on cattle which you can raise anywhere. 3
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Phlegmish posted:Thanks! Argentina has always been fascinating to me (yes I know I say this about literally everything), because right next door you have Chile, which is very similar in terms of coups, political violence, oscillating between protectionism and free trade, and demographic make-up (Chileans in fact have slightly more indigenous ancestry on average), yet the latter is vastly outperforming the former. From reading the article, it seems that Article did nothing wrong, but did everything in the wrong moment. When everyone was opening markets, they where trying a more autartic approach ... that is worse but has his perks. And so on. I feel geography has something to do too. But maybe I am very wrong. Being in the south, far from both europe and usa to sell their wares. But in 2023 that maybe of not importance with massive ships travelling he seas. I hope good luck for the Argentinians, they are cool people.
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Sadly the shape of the Argentinian skull makes them better suited to dancing and eating steak than doing business.
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does finland have a build the wall party
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drk posted:does finland have a build the wall party We are currently building a wall. 
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The Third largest party in Finland is the True Finns who are a broad mishmash of various right wing weirdos. Everything from plain old rural conservatives, to generic national populists, to literal neo-nazis. Every single person in the party is a hideous goblinoid spawned from a hellish pit somewhere in the vicinity of the dark fortress of Yävinkaalinskyljaanivärirantäskelijaari located in the deadlands where the sun never shines and no birds ever fly.
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FreudianSlippers posted:The Third largest party in Finland is the True Finns who are a broad mishmash of various right wing weirdos. Everything from plain old rural conservatives, to generic national populists, to literal neo-nazis. How do they feel about Russia?
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build the fence in all seriousness i knew things were a bit tense between the countries - I was in finland a few months ago and it was certainly a topic of conversation but I had no idea they built this huge surveillance corridor this year
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I mean with what happening in Ukraine I can't exactly blame them.
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It's traditional, Mannerheim would be proud.
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Issaries posted:We are currently building a wall. Understandable given your neighbor.
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drk posted:build the fence Russia has apparently been diverting migrants to the Finnish border. Belarus has done similar things, as has Turkey under slightly different circumstances. So it's very understandable for Finland to secure their border. Those migrants-- does anyone know where they're coming from, and how/why they're getting to Russia?
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drk posted:does finland have a build the wall party Romania scoring above France: seems legit. To be sure, France has its problems, but there’s a reason that Andrew Tate was operating in Romania. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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Same thing with Russia vs. Turkey. I guess it makes a bit of sense if they consider religious freedom as a component, both France and Turkey have some issues with regards to that, albeit for entirely different reasons.
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Platystemon posted:Romania scoring above France: seems legit. Source: CATO institute.
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OddObserver posted:Source: CATO institute. France probably scored low because it has too much paid vacation and maternity leave, hindering the freedom of corporations to work you to death
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Count Roland posted:Russia has apparently been diverting migrants to the Finnish border. Belarus has done similar things, as has Turkey under slightly different circumstances. So it's very understandable for Finland to secure their border. Back when we cared about Syria, I'm pretty sure the Russians were helpfully transporting refugees through Russia (which was not a preferred destination and also helpfully might not be accurate) to various borders, probably including Finland. Not as huge an influx as Turkey to Greece, but close to home for racist Finns.
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