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Henchman of Santa posted:Not to mention even their most obscure writers now have a much more impressive resume. Internet longform writing is a big world. It really isn't.
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I've been going to Grantland constantly for a couple years and listen to their podcasts all the time. Both the sports stuff and the pop culture stuff is great. I'm going to miss having all those people doing podcasts together. 
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For Grantland, David Shoemaker is a horrible "journalist" so hopefully it means he fades out of semi mainstream sports journalism.
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joshtothemaxx posted:For Grantland, David Shoemaker is a horrible "journalist" so hopefully it means he fades out of semi mainstream sports journalism. As a casual pro graps fan I enjoy his columns, why do people not like him?
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zakharov posted:As a casual pro graps fan I enjoy his columns, why do people not like him? He is just like, factually wrong like 90% of the time when he isn't writing about official "mythology".
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It's bizarre to me that pro wrestling journalism is something that people care about
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May 10, 2015 02:54
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It really isn't, considering the list of reputable pro wrestling journalists is like, one guy.
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Alain Post posted:It really isn't, considering the list of reputable pro wrestling journalists is like, one guy. this guy 
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Zach Lowe should go back to Sports Illustrated because their NBA writing has always been fantastic and with him they'd be a juggernaut. SI has been laying people off but hopefully he could be enticed over. Wesley Morris, Charlie Pierce, Brian Phillips etc. can, as mentioned, write for anybody they want about whatever they want. Here's hoping Morris sticks to film criticism, at which he has been a joy. If FOX was smart, they would snap up Jonah Keri and Ben Lindbergh for baseball, quietly one of the best writing duos on Grantland. They'd also fight with SI over the college football writers; Matt Hinton is easily in the top 5 on the site, regardless of expertise/subject matter. No idea what Sean McIndoe and Katie Baker (hockey) could do in a post-Grantland world. Baker was great at Deadspin and would probably be better suited at Vice Sports or at BuzzFeed Sports. (Or she could go back to work for Goldman Sachs.) McIndoe, if he wants to leave, ought to hope for a soft landing at SI. Count Jonathan Abrams and Jordan Conn into the "whatever, whenever" subset. The pop culture writers will have no trouble finding work. Shea Serrano in particular can do just about anything in that sphere.
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oatgan posted:this guy He's bad rear end.
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I just don't like him because his book was horrible and he's an annoying person.  Edit: and he casually uses the word human being to describe Gorgeous George, which is just stupid presentist and wrong. joshtothemaxx fucked around with this message at 03:10 on May 10, 2015 |
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:The pop culture writers will have no trouble finding work. Shea Serrano in particular can do just about anything in that sphere.
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Rembert Browne is one of the few who can actually suck me into reading that stuff which I normally don't do. I'd hate for him to get sucked up into some giant pop culture website where I'll never read his stuff.
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chunkles posted:Rembert Browne is one of the few who can actually suck me into reading that stuff which I normally don't do. I'd hate for him to get sucked up into some giant pop culture website where I'll never read his stuff. If he gets any kind of leeway with what he's writing you could always just follow him on Twitter and then read him when he posts his latest article.
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I really liked n3twork (or is it netw0rk? I forgot where the number goes)'s stuff, and he was entertaining with his Game of Thrones writeups/podcasts too. He's a bit try-too-hard when he has a whole column to himself, but he's hilarious in small doses. He'd be good at Vice or something, I suppose.
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bearic posted:I really liked n3twork (or is it netw0rk? I forgot where the number goes)'s stuff, and he was entertaining with his Game of Thrones writeups/podcasts too. He's a bit try-too-hard when he has a whole column to himself, but he's hilarious in small doses. He'd be good at Vice or something, I suppose. It's netw3rk, although he's actually started using his real name now (Jason Concepcion).
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The bad NFL stats guy could go to the mothership without a hitch. I hate him.
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bearic posted:I really liked n3twork (or is it netw0rk? I forgot where the number goes)'s stuff, and he was entertaining with his Game of Thrones writeups/podcasts too. He's a bit try-too-hard when he has a whole column to himself, but he's hilarious in small doses. He'd be good at Vice or something, I suppose. He is a great Twitter follow.
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MourningView posted:I imagine most of those people would be fine, especially Charlie Pierce and Pulitzer Prize Winner Wesley Morris. I'm sure they'll find places to write. I guess I'm more wondering whether those will be places that are cool sending Brian Phillips to fly a light aircraft around Alaska covering the Iditarod, or giving him however long to just go to Japan and write some poo poo about sumo wrestling, or whatever. And the same to a lesser extent with the others (much lesser extent with Pierce and Morris, obviously).
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A smart media organization would hire Rembert Brown as Ta-Nehisi Coates lite. He writes thinkpieces on race that are enjoyable to read.
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Alain Post posted:The bad NFL stats guy could go to the mothership without a hitch. I hate him. He wrote for them regularly before when he was with football outsiders. NFL coverage is by far the worst part of grantland aside from the couple times a year Chris Brown does an NFL column. Barnwell writes the same three columns over and over and Mays is just ungodly boring.
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I imagine a lot of these people are going to stay at Grantland, at least for a while. It may go into a decline, but it's not like ESPN is going to shutter the thing the minute Simmons leaves.
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No, but if Simmons gets another editorial job somewhere and they really love him as an editor, a lot might jump ship.
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Henchman of Santa posted:No, but if Simmons gets another editorial job somewhere and they really love him as an editor, a lot might jump ship. Or, when they hate the replacement options within ESPN, some may leave. I'm sure Wesley Morris would really like to hear Jason Whitlock's opinion on how to write a sentence. Simmons' side talked to Jim Miller from Vanity Fair, and the definitive article is out now. quote:Problems and tensions were clear to many throughout 2014. Then all hell broke loose in the fall when, at the height of the Ray Rice domestic abuse scandal, Simmons called NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell a liar during a segment on his podcast. ESPN suspended him. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/05/inside-shocking-abrupt-divorce-bill-simmons-and-espn
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AsInHowe posted:Or, when they hate the replacement options within ESPN, some may leave. I'm sure Wesley Morris would really like to hear Jason Whitlock's opinion on how to write a sentence. That's a huge dick move to do that by ESPN drat. I love Grantland and It's gonna be really sad when Whitlock run's it into the ground.
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MourningView posted:Y'all realize that they aren't actually putting Whitlock in charge of Grantland, right? We see the writing on the wall!!!!!!!!!
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R.D. Mangles posted:I assume Bill Simmons will handle this with the grace and dignity we all expect from a disgruntled Bill Simmons For all the shots they've taken at him, how much would Deadspin pay for Simmons' inevitable Ether column? 50K? 100K?
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R.D. Mangles posted:I assume Bill Simmons will handle this with the grace and dignity we all expect from a disgruntled Bill Simmons Why should he? Espn is total poo poo and in bed with the top3 leagues to an insane degree. Simmons is no saint but I hope he goes full retard on them. He's one of the few guys that could get "his readers" to wake up w/r/t the NFL shadiness and the Tebow/SAS/FT bullshit.
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Parody Threads posted:Why should he? Espn is total poo poo and in bed with the top3 leagues to an insane degree. Simmons is no saint but I hope he goes full retard on them. He's one of the few guys that could get "his readers" to wake up w/r/t the NFL shadiness and the Tebow/SAS/FT bullshit. SAS? The Spurs? What bullshit there? The Hack a Shaq thing?
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C. Everett Koop posted:For all the shots they've taken at him, how much would Deadspin pay for Simmons' inevitable Ether column? 50K? 100K? They should pay him $1 more than ESPN took out of his Christmas paycheck.
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Ramadu posted:SAS? The Spurs? What bullshit there? The Hack a Shaq thing? Stephen A Smith
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Ramadu posted:SAS? The Spurs? What bullshit there? The Hack a Shaq thing? Sports Argument Stadium*, he knows where Gendo is buried.
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Them thinking they could keep the BS Report - which is just Simmons and another guest, usually a friend of his - while getting rid of Simmons just strikes me as perfectly ESPN. "Next on the BS Report, Cousin Sal guesses the lines with unnamed ESPN drone #421."
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midwat posted:Them thinking they could keep the BS Report - which is just Simmons and another guest, usually a friend of his - while getting rid of Simmons just strikes me as perfectly ESPN.
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